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a drop from a historic sitewide $57 daily GMV to a recent average of $30 daily

There were 3 sales totalling $3.09 yesterday.  No wonder MoIncompetent said "I dont' post STR by Cat" ....a page full of of 0%'s probably wouldn't lure many sellers to Mo's parking lot for dollar store items.

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Would eBay's Don Hoe or Amazon's Bozo make a moronic comment like that? NO!
Does any real online or offline retail executive not worry or care if their business shows a significant year over year sales decline? HELL NO!

Discussion of real retail executives is off topic. This is an AlsoShop/Rinky Dink thread not an ecommerce/business thread.  REPORTED!
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"Well, Jay was so giddy that someone named Jay was involved with this site we posted our first non-eBay listing in 3 years here at Lunarbid (we tried two items at Yahoo once upon a time, they bombed)." -Marie posting  in a LunarBid thread at OTWA in 2005 wins the award for 'most moronic reason ever given for choosing a venue'

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Quote from: Alsoshop total sitewide sales
DAILY SITEWIDE STATS

2/24 16 items sold, GMV $34.36, ASP $2.15
2/25 8 items sold, GMV $52.75, ASP $6.59, Mo Posts 14, Daily US visitors (Quantcast) 155
2/26 20 items sold, GMV $39.17, ASP $1.96, Mo Posts 17
2/27 7 items sold, GMV  $10.70, ASP $1.52, Mo Posts 16
2/28 6 items sold, GMV $19.80, ASP $3.30, Mo Posts 8, Daily US visitors 167

3/1 31 items sold, GMV $49.82, ASP $1.61, Mo Posts 7, Daily US visitors 146
3/2 11 items sold, GMV $30.59, ASP $2.78, Mo Posts 2, Daily US visitors 170
3/3 3 items sold, GMV $3.09, ASP $1.03, Mo Posts 10
3/4 10 items sold, GMV $12.45, ASP $1.25, Mo Posts 13, Daily US visitors 202
3/5 6 items sold,  GMV $23.73, ASP $3.96, Mo Posts 14, Daily US visitors 186
3/6 5 items sold, GMV $6.49, ASP $1.30, Mo Posts 2, Daily US visitors 166
Quote from: Sunday was another slow Winter chill day
3/7 12 items sold, GMV $17.03, ASP $1.42, Mo Posts 18, Daily US visitors 155

Good news! Alsoshop's sitewide total sales today were exactly enough to buy one can of Raid flying insect spray (the branded version of troll spray)! :smileypartyfest:

Now for the bad news.  The $1.88 which the average ASs store owner grossed during the past 7 days (27 cents daily) won't even buy a place to sleep in a van cardboard box down by the river.  :smileyviolin:

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On the Plunderhere front: PH kicked out of Google Product Search.....again
« Last Edit: March 07, 2010, 06:40:47 PM by sneakymagenta »
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sell-thru is an irrelevant and illogical consideration.
-KaRay, owner of WP giving selling advice, 2006

the site was 'NOT' hacked but the little script that had recipes on had the link altered
-Plunderhere Owner Mark Taylor after his site was hacked by a Chinese hacker gang, 2008

Some people have it like that, others don’t. I do.
-Probidscripts owner Spencer Osama Binweb Laden Ray bragging about his ability to scam the OAI without feeling any guilt, 2008.

How does an auction site get buyers?
-question asked at PSU by owner of auction site BidBeaver.ca, 2008

How do I get sales?
-question asked at PSU by online store owner, 2009.

I was told by my Tech. Support that my site dont really need SSL.. his servers
are well protected and that info your providing to join aint really top secret information

-owner of auction site TheTraderOutlet.com discussig his site's lack of basic security, 2009

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I am very glad I don't allow either of you nor anyone else determine if my site is a success or not.
Really? How would you define "success"... As wasted traffic exchange hours that produce less than $200 in weekly sales? :happy001:
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How successful is ecrater really? They have a lot of items, but no one is posting any sales stats about them.  Nor BZ!
Well, I have at least a few dozen monthly sales on "BZ", using very little effort and less than an hour a week. All it took was uploading my website "Googleplex" Feeds into Bonanzle. If I put any effort at all into it I could easily have 10x that many. aSs? Well, lets just say my currently low (by my standard) monthly Bonanzle sales  would be a good week for the whole aSs site right now.
And Ecrater? No one posting sales stats, huh?
http://www.powersellersunite.com/about31303.html
And those are just the few who care enough to post at PSU.
« Last Edit: March 07, 2010, 03:49:41 PM by xwpopper »
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"Listen up Mother****er. Try that bulls*** here and I will hand you and your head in a basket"
- Ray Romeo's alter ego Andrew Pittino responding when I signed up a new account on Wagglepop to verify the non-existence of a way to opt out of his sharing my information with third parties.

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How would you define "success"

Success may mean, but is not limited too:

    * a level of social status

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Success

By that definition Mojavelyn's Alsoshop venture is a roaring success.  It has allowed her to achieve the coveted social status level of "Site Owner" on PSU.  Her fellow posters, who otherwise would have ignored the incoherent ramblings of an unemployed mediocre hobby seller, now look up to her and seek out her wisdom on marketing and the all-important googleplex because she is...a Site Owner.  :happy001:
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...and the trolls instantly become jealous of your "success" when you become a member of the elite circle known as 'site owners'.  :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

I think Maggie's definition of success is the correct one.

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mediocre

Ummm, if your auction site submits over 20,000 items to Product Search and other CSE's/social media sites and your 7-day GMV is only $143 your marketing and management skills are several levels below mediocre.
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"Well, Jay was so giddy that someone named Jay was involved with this site we posted our first non-eBay listing in 3 years here at Lunarbid (we tried two items at Yahoo once upon a time, they bombed)." -Marie posting  in a LunarBid thread at OTWA in 2005 wins the award for 'most moronic reason ever given for choosing a venue'

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Ummm, if your auction site submits over 20,000 items to Product Search and other CSE's/social media sites and your 7-day GMV is only $143 your marketing and management skills are several levels below mediocre.

The problem may also be that many of Alsoshop's items, specifically many of the used books which account for over 25% of the site's listings, are overpriced in comparison to the competition.

A small sampling (from the site owner's store):
ISBN 0743469852: ASs-$2.00, AMZN-599 sellers from $0.01
0380976579: ASs-$5.00 (for a book club edition), AMZN- 135 sellers from $0.01
0441525628: ASs-$1.00, AMZN-146 sellers from $0.01
0345418808: ASs- (used, $5 auction/$10 BIN), AMZN-42 used from $1.41 and 10 new from $2.95
0380976587: ASs-$7.00 (for a used book club edition), AMZN-143 used from $0.01 and 21 new from $5.29

Devoting 4 main home page top level categories (Avon, Tupperware, Watkins, Rada Cutlery) to products that are widely available nationwide in the US from an army of tens of thousands of stay at home party resellers also hurts STR.

A buyer unfriendly script, difficult checkout process, and the site's failure to understand how to properly address the issue of buyer trust  also contribute to the low STR on the site. PayPal verification of sellers provides an income stream for site owners but does little, if anything, to increase buyer trust. 

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Site     Alexa     Compete     Quantcast     Listings
www.alsoshop.com    116,723    0    0    44,000

From 44,000 to today's 21,609 listings...a 50% decline
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"Well, Jay was so giddy that someone named Jay was involved with this site we posted our first non-eBay listing in 3 years here at Lunarbid (we tried two items at Yahoo once upon a time, they bombed)." -Marie posting  in a LunarBid thread at OTWA in 2005 wins the award for 'most moronic reason ever given for choosing a venue'

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Former porn site operator, and all around scumbag binarywebs calls Bid-a-lot's owner a "scam artist". Pot kettle black. ROTFLMFAO.

Quote from: binarywebs displays his lack of professionalism
Feedback can be imported from: eBay, Yahoo, Bonanzle, Etsy, iOffer, Amazon, Overstock, eBid.us, eBid.uk - Prior sites: Wagglepop and Bidville are now removed due to being closed, and site Bid-Alot has been removed due to it now being owned/operated by Russell Bailey, a scam artist.
http://www.probidv6mods.com/auction_details.php?name=Feedback-Import-From-9-Other-Sites-for-PHPProbid-v607&auction_id=2059

The other side of the story
http://www.bid-alot.com/forum/
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sell-thru is an irrelevant and illogical consideration.
-KaRay, owner of WP giving selling advice, 2006

the site was 'NOT' hacked but the little script that had recipes on had the link altered
-Plunderhere Owner Mark Taylor after his site was hacked by a Chinese hacker gang, 2008

Some people have it like that, others don’t. I do.
-Probidscripts owner Spencer Osama Binweb Laden Ray bragging about his ability to scam the OAI without feeling any guilt, 2008.

How does an auction site get buyers?
-question asked at PSU by owner of auction site BidBeaver.ca, 2008

How do I get sales?
-question asked at PSU by online store owner, 2009.

I was told by my Tech. Support that my site dont really need SSL.. his servers
are well protected and that info your providing to join aint really top secret information

-owner of auction site TheTraderOutlet.com discussig his site's lack of basic security, 2009

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New Service from Sneaky: ALSOSHOP DAILY STATS :imptongue:

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DAILY SITEWIDE STATS

3/1 31 items sold, GMV $49.82, ASP $1.61, Mo Posts 7, Daily US visitors 146
3/2 11 items sold, GMV $30.59, ASP $2.78, Mo Posts 2, Daily US visitors 170
3/3 3 items sold, GMV $3.09, ASP $1.03, Mo Posts 10
3/4 10 items sold, GMV $12.45, ASP $1.25, Mo Posts 13, Daily US visitors 202
3/5 6 items sold,  GMV $23.73, ASP $3.96, Mo Posts 14, Daily US visitors 186
3/6 5 items sold, GMV $6.49, ASP $1.30, Mo Posts 2, Daily US visitors 166
3/7 12 items sold, GMV $17.03, ASP $1.42, Mo Posts 18, Daily US visitors 155
3/8 8 items sold, GMV $18.84, ASP $2.36, Mo Posts 17, Daily US visitors 186
3/9 19 items sold, GMV $52.96, ASP $2.79, Mo Posts 11, Daily US visitors 249
3/10 56 items sold, GMV $106.50, ASP $1.90, Mo Posts 8

March 1-10 contest results:
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Total Bids & Purchase @ end of Contest 3/10/10 --154
http://www.alsoshop.com/community/showthread.php?t=6202

If you subtract the contest related purchases from the 3/1-3/10 daily sales numbers  you're left with....HEY MODERATOR, where are the "goose eggs" and "invisible to outside buyers" smilies?
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sell-thru is an irrelevant and illogical consideration.
-KaRay, owner of WP giving selling advice, 2006

the site was 'NOT' hacked but the little script that had recipes on had the link altered
-Plunderhere Owner Mark Taylor after his site was hacked by a Chinese hacker gang, 2008

Some people have it like that, others don’t. I do.
-Probidscripts owner Spencer Osama Binweb Laden Ray bragging about his ability to scam the OAI without feeling any guilt, 2008.

How does an auction site get buyers?
-question asked at PSU by owner of auction site BidBeaver.ca, 2008

How do I get sales?
-question asked at PSU by online store owner, 2009.

I was told by my Tech. Support that my site dont really need SSL.. his servers
are well protected and that info your providing to join aint really top secret information

-owner of auction site TheTraderOutlet.com discussig his site's lack of basic security, 2009

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does MOO own part of psuu???.. because  the site allows her to break the rules over anyone else
 
for example when  atomicmall owner goes into bonanzles threads to  stir up trouble and spam.. he is allowed  but when he is in debate with MOO when it is her  doing the rule breaking  he gets 2 cards quickly
 
in deabate about sites and  traffic  trends    her site on compete.com shows a drop of 55% over a  yr.. in debatge she said that she is certain compete  does not say that.. then when she was told it is THERE  she  tricks and decieves to  attack  on another issue .. she is there attacking and  insuklting.    and lieing .. but the newbie gets banned and she is all fine
 
does she own part of that site?
 
also  she said  its easy to maqnipulate  those rating sites.... 2 compete and quantcast says he same thing a  drastic drop over a yr.. but alexa shows the opposite  that brings up red flags since the site is so small and she knows how to manipulate and since 2 says the oppsite  and her proving so much deciet and tricjkering in debate.. could  that one site  diff mean manipulation?
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does MOO own part of psuu???

No, but her PSU mod buddy Elgato has a store on Alsoshop
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sell-thru is an irrelevant and illogical consideration.
-KaRay, owner of WP giving selling advice, 2006

the site was 'NOT' hacked but the little script that had recipes on had the link altered
-Plunderhere Owner Mark Taylor after his site was hacked by a Chinese hacker gang, 2008

Some people have it like that, others don’t. I do.
-Probidscripts owner Spencer Osama Binweb Laden Ray bragging about his ability to scam the OAI without feeling any guilt, 2008.

How does an auction site get buyers?
-question asked at PSU by owner of auction site BidBeaver.ca, 2008

How do I get sales?
-question asked at PSU by online store owner, 2009.

I was told by my Tech. Support that my site dont really need SSL.. his servers
are well protected and that info your providing to join aint really top secret information

-owner of auction site TheTraderOutlet.com discussig his site's lack of basic security, 2009

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her site on compete.com shows a drop of 55% over a  yr.. in debatge she said that she is certain compete  does not say that.. then when she was told it is THERE  she  tricks and decieves to  attack  on another issue .. she is there attacking and  insuklting.    and lieing

Perhaps she should take the advice she has given other site owners with declining stats and "get off her duff and do some work"  :stolensmiley:

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If you don't like the numbers your site is showing, Don't shoot the messenger. Email your site's marketing or support, and complain to them to get off their duff and do some work.
http://www.powersellersunite.com/about7094-0-asc-0.html

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also  she said  its easy to maqnipulate  those rating sites.... 2 compete and quantcast says he same thing a  drastic drop over a yr.. but alexa shows the opposite  that brings up red flags since the site is so small and she knows how to manipulate and since 2 says the oppsite  and her proving so much deciet and tricjkering in debate.. could  that one site  diff mean manipulation?

Mojavelyn would never manipulate stats. :sarcasm1:

Quote from: Mojavelyn on Alexa
And yes, I have the tool bar, and my homepage is bid-alot, and when I turn one my computer, I open about 3 browser pages and keep one on B-A at all times so I can flip back and forth. Even when I'm not working, I'm working.
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I don't even keep a history for more then 24 hrs. delete cookies and temp files regularily.
http://www.powersellersunite.com/about7094-0-asc-15.html

Her hard work of flipping back and forth and deleting cookies paid off. Bid-a-lot had an Alexa rank of 23,000 when Mo was promoting the site. (with only 6300 members and 7000 listings ) http://finance.dir.groups.yahoo.com/group/GreedBay/message/5409?threaded=1&var=1

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well that pretty much clears  this up...

when she came in my thread when i was giving out  what  independent rating sites are saying about diff sites... and saying  the word CERTAIN  she knew for CERTAIN they do not say that she even said compete  for certain did not and quantcast..

compete shows a 55% drop  over 1 yr.. quantcast pretty much agrees with current  reading at 330 and max reading 660 something.. but then when i looked at alexa i see  a  total opposite..

now bringing up her talk about how she works one of those 3.. the one she says she works is alexa  the very one that disagrees with the other 2... i have seen they all 3  pretty much agree generally some diff  but NEVER a  drastic diff  like this is with moos  site.

so what all this means about psuu itself is very bad news...
 i see stockmiser there psoting alot  and only in ebay stuff and never in these places  with the  up to no good stuff  .....  but this all shows  this is all up to no good  stuff by psuu themselves to allow this and to work against anyone that  shows the truth on these  tricksters like moo..

if stockmiser knows   this like he may.. why in the world would he stay there helping psuu  harm sellers like this  helping by bringing activity and money for the site??
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oh and several of my posts  are gone that shows  bad on MOO and patch..

like  saying who is coming in whose thread

who is  telling the member they are debating with  they are pushing the blue  button..
my explaination on what it MEANS  to tell someones TARGET  directly they are pushing the blue button  when they come in the persons own thread   all that  proves is a cut and dry case of a person attacking a  target...

I explained pushing the blue button  without hitting the target  by telling him  should be the only way to push the button.. the other way is  for revenge and personal attacks and that type  person should be banned

all that explained is deleted
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MoRon is living proof that there is an inverse relationship between a poster's PSU count and their IQ.

Quote from: MoRon exhibiting her ignorance of eBay and all things ecommerce again
And the best way to do that is to just leave ebay. The upper management isn't going to listen to anyone until the stockholders start grumbling. Their dividends is based on the profits. if enough sellers can and will leave, the bottom line is effected.
http://www.powersellersunite.com/post-300575.html#300575
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Does eBay pay a cash dividend?

No, eBay has never declared a cash dividend and presently intends to continue this policy.
http://investor.ebay.com/faq.cfm
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sell-thru is an irrelevant and illogical consideration.
-KaRay, owner of WP giving selling advice, 2006

the site was 'NOT' hacked but the little script that had recipes on had the link altered
-Plunderhere Owner Mark Taylor after his site was hacked by a Chinese hacker gang, 2008

Some people have it like that, others don’t. I do.
-Probidscripts owner Spencer Osama Binweb Laden Ray bragging about his ability to scam the OAI without feeling any guilt, 2008.

How does an auction site get buyers?
-question asked at PSU by owner of auction site BidBeaver.ca, 2008

How do I get sales?
-question asked at PSU by online store owner, 2009.

I was told by my Tech. Support that my site dont really need SSL.. his servers
are well protected and that info your providing to join aint really top secret information

-owner of auction site TheTraderOutlet.com discussig his site's lack of basic security, 2009
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