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[quote author=sherrand link=topic=3775.msg48189#msg48189 date=1175104258]
Your daily chuckle:

Quote:wagglepopCC1   28 Mar 2007 15:13       


Hello Members,

Based on some new threads, today seems like a good day to illustrate a point we have been trying to make all along about selling on Wagglepop.

We have put a tremendous amount of effort into making the site "search engine friendly", and it's paying off in the ways that are being described.

Many people ask us "how much traffic Wagglepop gets" when the real question should be "I'm getting higher rank for my Store and listings on Wagglepop than I get on eBay - how are you doing that?"

eBay's main search engine is the "inside eBay" engine.

Wagglepop's main search engine is all of the major search engines outside of Wagglepop.

That pretty much sums up our overall philosophy and approach.

When you open a Store on Wagglepop and list items, the odds are very good that you can optimize for good rank and achieve it. Everything about Wagglepop has been designed for that optimization.

We strongly doubt that there is any other selling outlet online that offers such an optimized environment for search engines as the opportunity on Wagglepop.

Look for Stores from other smaller auction sites in search engines. Look for listings. You won't find many of either, except for a small handful.

Our belief is that if you are an eBay seller and adding to your customer base from within eBay, by opening a Wagglepop Store you'll then be targeting search engines and those shoppers.

This bears repeating:

eBay listings target buyers shopping on eBay.

Wagglepop listings target buyers shopping on search engines.

We are targeting buyers where they shop, and for $9.95 per month, any eBay seller can come here and do the same and get their entire inventory exposed. It is a remarkable opportunity, assuming we can get more eBay sellers to accept that there is a world outside of eBay.

Wagglepop is more than just an auction or shopping site, it's about changing the thinking about what an auction site can be and about targeting buyers who do not shop on eBay.

Over 80% of all online purchases start with a search engine search.

And that's where we are setting up shop Smile

Karen - WP Customer Care

Edited to add: The thread title, started by KaRay is:  Advanced Selling: Wagglepop Stores - Discussion - The Wagglepop Way
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I can't believe the WP sellers are falling for this stuff. I can't believe that people that tell outright lies like the one in the quote above are allowed to walk the streets let alone participate on the internet. I have seen a-lot of fraud before in WP but this statement takes the cake.

I am lost for words at this point other then to agree with DB that it is a cult. I am sorry if that offends anyone but at this point there can be no other explanation for sellers to stay there other then it is a cult.

This just hurts to watch this anymore knowing what is happening to those sellers from that @@@@@@@@@########################****>?<<>> Ray.



An auction site owner has the right to make money but not the right to steal it from there sellers as is happening at poopland.




let the truth be told
u1it4less - "it's all in the name.."
[quote author=sherrand link=topic=3775.msg48189#msg48189 date=1175104258]
Quote:wagglepopCC1  28 Mar 2007 15:13     


Hello Members,

Based on some new threads, today seems like a good day to illustrate a point we have been trying to make all along about selling on Wagglepop.

We have put a tremendous amount of effort into making the site "search engine friendly", and it's paying off in the ways that are being described.-We rely totally on froogle, and are so cheap we purchased the keyword wagglepop

Many people ask us "how much traffic Wagglepop gets" when the real question should be "I'm getting higher rank for my Store and listings on Wagglepop than I get on eBay - how are you doing that?"-We aren't getting any traffic, and hey if you're lucky I will bother to see if the froogle feed has gone through. I spend all my time on the WP board, so I don't have time to browse the google base boards to see if there might be a problem.

eBay's main search engine is the "inside eBay" engine.-Ebay.com is what brings the buyers, but since nobody has heard of Wagglepop, the chances that they find the main page are zippo

Wagglepop's main search engine is all of the major search engines outside of Wagglepop.-just type in Wagglepop and like magic it appears. The problem is buyers are searching for widgets and gadgets not a site with a funny name

That pretty much sums up our overall philosophy and approach.We don't care if you sell anything, just pay those store fees and my life is well pretty sweet.

When you open a Store on Wagglepop and list items, the odds are very good that you can optimize for good rank and achieve it. Everything about Wagglepop has been designed for that optimization.The optimization of my wallet

We strongly doubt that there is any other selling outlet online that offers such an optimized environment for search engines as the opportunity on Wagglepop.Except for a few hundred that offer froogle feeds, and a few who actually advertise, or have an established niche market.

Look for Stores from other smaller auction sites in search engines. Look for listings. You won't find many of either, except for a small handful.

Our belief is that if you are an eBay seller and adding to your customer base from within eBay, by opening a Wagglepop Store you'll then be targeting search engines and those shoppers.You don't need to know that ebay store items are fed to froogle, or that ebay sellers regularly submit their store URL's to search engines

This bears repeating:

eBay listings target buyers shopping on eBay.

Wagglepop listings target buyers shopping on search engines.Your listings are a shot in the dark, wagglepop who?

We are targeting buyers where they shop, and for $9.95 per month, any eBay seller can come here and do the same and get their entire inventory exposed. It is a remarkable opportunity, assuming we can get more eBay sellers to accept that there is a world outside of eBay.We assume that just a few more disgruntled ebay sellers ought to fill up my bank account

Wagglepop is more than just an auction or shopping site, it's about changing the thinking about what an auction site can be and about targeting buyers who do not shop on eBay.It's more than just an auction site for sure, and the only targets are the ones on the backs of sellers that I am aiming at

Over 80% of all online purchases start with a search engine search.Where buyers find all their favorite and familiar sites like Amazon, Overstock, JC Penney's, Target etc... Again Wagglepop who?

Karen - WP Customer Care

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Edited to add BOLDING IS MINE
[quote author=scampy7 link=topic=3775.msg48115#msg48115 date=1175018280]
Any one here that can still get on follow this thread:

http://www.wagglepop.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=5617

Quote:Hi all -

For those that are willing, please respond and post your store subscription level, and your # of sales (not $ amounts, just number of total sales for that month) for Jan, Feb. & Mar. to date.

I'd like to get as much data as possible (there are 311 stores now), and have all levels of store subscribers respond (showcase, basic & featured).

This is just for a personal survey & none of this data will be shared or passed on to anyone.

Thanks in advance!

Some of the comments so far:

Quote:I don't mind sharing my info:

Level - Basic

Sales:
Jan. - Zero
Feb. - Zero
Mar. - Zero

Last completed purchase was on Dec.25, 2006.

Also, up until today, I had 49 items listed. Today, I pulled 11, so I am down to 38. At least half of my items would sell elsewhere. Just thought I'd mention this because a few people have commented that we would have more sales if we had more items listed.

Quote:Hi,
My numbers are:

Jan 0
Feb 5
Mar 2

Good luck!

Quote:I have had a Basic store for about 6 months.

One sale in all that time, that was several months ago.

I do continue to add new listings, and am still hopeful!

Good luck.

Quote:Basic Store

Jan = 0
Feb = 0
March = 1

Nothing to speak of, but I'm still here.................

Quote:Basic store here.
377 items listed
Sales -
Jan - 0
Feb - 2
Mar - 0

There are a lot more comments than what I've mentioned, this is only a few.  What on earth are these sellers waiting for.  I'm surprised this thread hasn't been pulled by now.  Well Ray  you ought to read this thread, these are the real numbers , no fudged numbers like you provide.  Business really stinks for these sellers.  Come on poppers wake up and move on there are other venues out there that are getting great sales, what on earth are you waiting for.  How can your busisness survive this way.

Smileyyellowbang BangHead


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Keep the faith, Poppers (you fools/suckers). Just think, 3 more years of this (according to your leader, Karen) and you could be doing the Waggle dance with (drum-roll) possibly one whole sale A WEEK. Waaahhooooo! BangHead BangHead
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[quote author=sherrand link=topic=3775.msg48188#msg48188 date=1175102973]
And KaRay just turned Gilbert Complaisance photography back on - AGAIN!! He/she/it must really like looking at those pictures. Me, I'm getting tired of seeing them crop up every month.

Boinktard
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I wonder what's going on with this store it is odd that it keeps coming and going.  This store was legit at one time I purchased a photograph from him way back shortly after WP launched.  He sells on ebay too or at least he did last I knew.  He's a very nice seller from Canada.  I wonder if he is aware of this.  It would seem kind of funny if it were him opening and closing like this why would someone do that.


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Hi scoop,

I saw you had interacted with the fellow as did WakeMeUp and one other. All but one feedback, yours to him, were from sellers. But there has been no activity since October. I'm sure the fellow is legit. But KaRay isn't - I am convinced this is what I call a hijacked store. I would be quite surprised to learn the owner is even aware of it's many resurrections on WP in the past few months.
[quote author=chiquita link=topic=3775.msg48179#msg48179 date=1175095976]
[quote author=Platzki link=topic=3775.msg48176#msg48176 date=1175094288]

Both you, rat and others have mentioned your successful sales since opening your zen stores.  If I remember correctly, Rat hadn't even advertised yet and was getting hits... that's why I was asking.
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So now I am "others mentioned"?
Happy001

Platzki hon it was me that had hits w/o advertising except with froogle and directory site submission.

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Sorry... (said breathlessly and with tons of sarcasm...)

Happy001 Happy001 Happy001 Happy001 Happy001 Happy001 Happy001 Happy001

AND Store inventory listings have jumped on an average of 4 items per store on the first few pages. Makes you go Hmmmmm....
I got a chuckle out of this post that comes after KaRay's very motivational "We are the SEO Masters" speech:

Quote:I changed the title of one of my custom store pages to my exact store name, and maybe I'll show up better in search results soon.

Wait - if the site is so highly optimized, why aren't you already experiencing good results? Oh, that's right, no one searches for Wagglepop, lmao.

I won't name names, but let's just say this is one of the head cheerleaders that is SO busy that she has to cut back on her business. Can't imagine why she's concerned with search results if she's already that busy.

Tool
I don't like things that make me go hmmmm....

I like things that make me go "icky icky icky ba-dam ping!"

That makes me happy... and that's a big deal... for me...  Mrgreen
[quote author=Platzki link=topic=3775.msg48203#msg48203 date=1175118784]
I don't like things that make me go hmmmm....

I like things that make me go "icky icky icky ba-dam ping!"

That makes me happy... and that's a big deal... for me...  Mrgreen
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You never fail to make me spew whatever beverage I'm enjoying Platz

Occasion14
[quote author=eclectica link=topic=3775.msg48204#msg48204 date=1175119125]
[quote author=Platzki link=topic=3775.msg48203#msg48203 date=1175118784]
I don't like things that make me go hmmmm....

I like things that make me go "icky icky icky ba-dam ping!"

That makes me happy... and that's a big deal... for me...  Mrgreen
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You never fail to make me spew whatever beverage I'm enjoying Platz

Occasion14

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glad I could help...  Happy001 Happy001 Happy001 Happy001 Happy001
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