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$9.95 with a limit of 100 listings per month for entry level stores
$19.95 with unlimited listings for regular stores
Showcase and featured stay the same.
I'll say $20 for the store, $40 for featured, $50 for showcase, and $60 for both featured/showcase.

I'd rather rent a ProStore...
I am going to be bold with my prediction. I have a strong feeling looking back at what has transpired over the past nearly 2 years. I believe that the so called $75,000 for advertising was a reality in that Ray Refied his house and cashed in. Problem is being from the area I would suspect Ray's property taxes come to at least $10,000 a year, compounded with the high interest rate he is bound to be paying and the devaluation of homes in this area, Ray's monthly nut for the house has to be a cool $3,400 or so. Big troubles in waggleland IMO, why else would he move the original restructuring date forward to June the 1st from Oct. 1st and at one time maybe sooner?


Monthly store option first 100 stores = N/A instead a yearly fee of $299.95 (Ray needs one last hit before he R.I.P.'s it again).

Yearly store fee's above 100 stores = $449.95


Let the Truth be Told
Very interesting prediction, Truth -- one that makes a lot of sense.

I, too, am convinced there are major $$$ problems in Poopland. The creation of the Oct. ax date was merely a last-ditch attempt to fire up the faithfull's butts into action by threatening cuts and fee increases if they didn't do their job of luring more naive sellers into Ray's web of deceit after the big non-exodus from eBay proved fruitless. The current lack of enthusiasm for spamathons, listing contests, pinning flyers at truck stops and whatever other dopey things Poopers have done in the past to "spread the word" couldn't have been very reassuring to Ray. So, knowing full well droves of new sellers would not be forthcoming, Ray announced a May 2 ax date and blamed (who else) the faithful for their inability to rally a plethera of new recruits into the fold to replace the hundreds of "deadbeats" and miscreants who got fed up with Ray's BS and blew the pop stand.

My observation: There are now 80 stores ONLY with over 100 items. A good percentage of those show very few sales and are stocked with items selling under $10. I am hard-pressed to believe these sellers would be willing to shell out $450 to warehouse their items on WP for a year, unless Ray holds some kind of carrots before their noses -- like promising to buy Google ad words or something  Happy001 Happy001 for those loyal stupid enough to part with $$hundreds more they don't have to keep Ray in fuzzy slippers for another year. But then, many in Poopland swim against the current of basic business sense.

In any case, I think auctions on WP will be history.

Anybody else with a prediction?
The announcement will be delayed.  WP's nameservers are down and the site is currently unreachable.

Quote:DNS Lookup: www.wagglepop.com A record

How I am searching:

Searching for www.wagglepop.com A record at i.root-servers.net [192.36.148.17]: Got referral to L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. (zone: com.) [took 53 ms]
Searching for www.wagglepop.com A record at L.GTLD-SERVERS.NET. [192.41.162.30]: Got referral to ns1.wagglepop.com. (zone: wagglepop.com.) [took 82 ms]
Searching for www.wagglepop.com A record at ns1.wagglepop.com. [66.199.241.139]: Timed out. Trying again.
Searching for www.wagglepop.com A record at ns2.wagglepop.com. [66.199.241.140]: Timed out. Trying again.
Searching for www.wagglepop.com A record at ns2.wagglepop.com. [66.199.241.140]: Timed out. Trying again.
Searching for www.wagglepop.com A record at ns1.wagglepop.com. [66.199.241.139]: Timed out. Trying again.
Searching for www.wagglepop.com A record at ns2.wagglepop.com. [66.199.241.140]: Timed out. Trying again.
Searching for www.wagglepop.com A record at ns1.wagglepop.com. [66.199.241.139]: Timed out. Trying again.

Quote:Ping to wagglepop.com

Sorry, I could not determine the IP for wagglepop.com (error 11004)
OOPS - Maybe he actually pulled the plug.  Very convenient timing that you can't get into the site right at the time the big announcement was to be made. 

:turkey1:
Did Wagglepoop go POOF?  It's still dead. Smileyviolin
Naturally no explanation for the 4 hours of downtime.  The downtime sent at least one Popper Cheerleader into a panic.  From Google Blog Search--the post has since been deleted from the AllThingWagglepop blog

Quote:Gone Gone Gone
2 hours ago by LilyPadBoutique 
Sadly, Our best efforts and intentions weren't enough to keep Wagglepop.com operating. We wish the best to our customers and neighboring stores. Please know that we, stores will re-establish ourselves and continue offering the best ...
All Things Wagglepop - http://allthingwagglepop.blogspot.com/
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FEE INCREASE ANNOUNCEMENT

a. fees tripled from $9.95 to $29.95 . 
b. new storeowners must pay before opening a store
c. Wagglepop LLC to sell dropshipped items on the site to pad the listing count
http://www.wagglepop.com/bin/Accessory/announcements

Quote:Wagglepop Yesterday, Today and Tomorrow
5/2/08
We are very pleased today be be able to officially announce the sitewide participation and policy changes that will ensure not only a solid ongoing future for Wagglepop the company, but benefit the entire Wagglepop community of buyers and sellers. The participation structure changes announced today (and effective starting 6/1/08) mark an extraordinary "break" from online auction convention, and will do much to help support the continuation unabated of our existing high standards for features, functionality, and performance.

Our foremost intention is to create and support an environment that allows for and rewards successful sellers in the most meaningful of ways - the bottom line. At the same time, the new structure will help buyers find the very best in pricing and product and all members transact in an environment of fairness, respect, and trust.

After much internal debate and considerable restructuring, we are all very happy to announce that there will be no cut in any of the services, features, or functions on Wagglepop. All of our existing dynamics will remain in place, including most notably the BusinessBuilder Advanced Selling Tools. While the proprietary and legacy features we offer are quite "maintenance intensive", we simply did not and do not want to compromise the "package" that has come to represent Wagglepop. High standards of operation reflect who we are and what we wish to be and I am personally very proud to announce that we will continue to support that.

All announced participation and policy changes are effective 6/1/08. We will continue to operate under the existing dynamics until that date. The breakdown below is sectioned by subject.

  1. Introducing SmartSell Enterprise Package

As of 6/1/08 the existing SmartSell Pro Package will be retired and replaced by the SmartSell Enterprise Package - a package that at $29.95 per month supports not only unlimited included access to the Wagglepop Marketplace through a complete marketable storefront featuring the BusinessBuilder Advanced Selling Tools, but unlimited included selling as well. SmartSell Enterprise represents a 21st century approach to online selling that allows sellers doing to the work to keep more of their earned profits - 100% in fact! Starting 6/1/08 the new base for participation and entry into the Wagglepop Marketplace will be SmartSell Pro Enterprise.
SmartSell Enterprise Package
A 21st century online selling solution by Wagglepop

SmartSell Enterprise Package Features



SmartSell Unlimited Listing Pack
Unlimited Listings - No Insertion Fees! All listing formats
FREE Thumbnail Gallery Picture Upgrade
FREE Buy Now Options - All prices

Basic Wagglepop Store with BusinessBuilder!
Featuring the value-packed and innovative BusinessBuilder suite of Advanced Selling Tools:

> Buy More Now with DynamicDiscounts
> Red Carpet Customer Program
> OnTarget Cross Promotions
> InStore Promotions
> Merchandising Manager

Plus a complete storefront with up to 100 custom categories, unlimited custom pages, a custom URL for your Store, available Store Listing Header, and much more!

Learn more about Wagglepop Stores featuring BusinessBuilder

SmartSell Independence Pack
Tired of sharing your profits? Declare your "independence" from Final Value fees!

NO FINAL VALUE FEES!

Sold listings are not subject to any percentage commission as Final Value Fees under SSE are not applicable - meaning no more penalties for success - a "freedom" in online selling that is long overdue.

There is no action that existing Wagglepop Marketplace merchants must take. Existing SmartSell Pro accounts will migrate automatically starting 6/1/08 to SmartSell Enterprise. All posted charges to accounts prior to 6/1/08 will reflect SSP, while all posted charges on 6/1/08 and beyond will reflect SSE.

SmartSell Enterprise comes with a Basic Wagglepop Store as under SSP, and the Store component can continue to be upgraded to Featured or Showcase under the existing upgrade costs. Existing upgraded Stores will migrate and continue at the same Store subscription level.

The introduction of SmartSell Enterprise marks the start of a dynamic that allows sellers to focus on their customer base and businesses in the most meaningful of ways while spending less time on the bottom line - a fixed cost under SSE. We feel strongly that any comparison to listing on eBay, or to quality independent shopping carts will continue to show Wagglepop as an extraordinary value and uniquely effective offering.

Welcome to the New Wagglepop and the future of fair and effective online selling.



  2. Introducing Wagglepop Marketplace Marketshare

In the coming weeks we will be introducing Wagglepop Marketplace Marketshare. Marketshare has the sole purpose of "completing" the Wagglepop Marketplace by offering, direct through Wagglepop LLC via dropshipment and other agreements, the items and products that we do not currently offer within the Marketplace through lack of population from the online selling community. Basically, we will be "in the trenches" with our existing Marketplace Merchants attempting to fulfill the wants and needs of our shoppers. We owe the very best experience possible to those that consider and visit Wagglepop, and what the online selling community has not provided we will provide ourselves through a variety of methods.

As per existing policy, we are proud to state that we do not and will not accept outside advertising within Wagglepop for competing items and products as on eBay. Our Marketplace Merchants have earned and deserve that protection from outside competition - the Wagglepop Marketplace is for Wagglepop Merchants' items and products, and the items and products from Marketshare.

When people come to Wagglepop looking for something - we want them to find and buy it - and Marketshare will help to build that.



  3. Wagglepop Marketplace Access

As many of our most successful sellers know, participation within the Wagglepop Marketplace as a merchant is a valuable commodity. Access to the Wagglepop Marketplace will continue in the current "open" format at this time, but we will be introducing "closed" format over the next few months. The new format will require verifiable online selling references and/or upfront payment along with a few other requirements that will do much to attract what will serve all membership best - dedicated and trustworthy sellers. There may even be a short period where we will not accept new sellers into the Marketplace. Expect announcements as appropriate in the coming weeks and months.



  4. New Search and Browse Results Displays

Over the next several weeks we will be testing a new set of search and browse results displays that better reflect the expectations of shoppers and further differentiate us from the typical "auction site" look and feel. Shoppers we believe will find the new displays easier to navigate and interpret, and in doing so make for a better overall experience which can lead to more sales.

Look for them in the next few weeks and we will have public polls posted for membership input.



  5. New Selling Opportunities through Expansion

Based on some preliminary investigation into the buying behaviors of the online buying community, we are exploring the idea of expanding Wagglepop into a "family" of related but independent ecommerce shopping sites that could mean more opportunity for sellers to expand their customer bases and sales. The changes we make today to ensure the viability of Wagglepop moving forward may allow us through revenues to support development of additional smaller "specialty" sites with highly targeted focuses. Our ability to effectively rank in search engines is a dynamic worth optimizing through expansion.

At some point we will conduct public polls to gauge the validity of and need for expansion that existing membership would be a part of and support. Should support be pronounced for Wagglepop under the new structure, we envision completion of existing Wagglepop projects at some point (such as Wagglepop Checkout) as a part of the new expansion initiative.



  In Conclusion and Our Commitment

I would like that thank all of our membership - buyers and sellers alike - for your support to date that has helped build our small but powerfully effective community. The very existence and success of Wagglepop is something we can and should all be proud of. Wagglepop was built out of "thin air", from a single idea and a desire to make a difference for online buyers and sellers and to break away from the limited effective options available and the unfair dynamics that came with that.

While we leave the "eBay competitor" vision behind, I am struck by the fact that Wagglepop proves that good people working hard and together can achieve something real and lasting for the benefit of everyone - for buyers, for sellers, for community friends. Together, we have made and continue to make a little part of the online world a better place - not through criticism but through positive attitudes and action. Achievement on any level is a joy that no critic can or will ever know, as few critics know anything of hard work or sacrifice.

How much we achieve is not nearly as important as who we are and what we did and continue to do working together in respectful trust-based environment. I am proud to be associated with such good people, and hope to continue that association for many years to come.

Andrew Pittino
- Wagglepop Director of Business Development & Vice President, Wagglepop LLC

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A Showcase Store would total $59.95, and a "Showcase+Featured" Store would be $69.95, total.

AP

A comment from The Flunkies of Fiction blog:
Quote:Wagglepop Owner Ray Romeo Loses His Mind, Triples Store Fees to $29.95

...The site also annunced its intention to pad its listing count by selling dropshipped merchandise on the site.
Wagglepop LLC's dropshipped items will compete against sellers' items for buyers

seller Wrote:the marketshare is confusing. Because we all know there are a lot of areas that nobody is selling in now. But if we decide to go into one of them, will we then be in direct competition with WP's dropshipped items. It is interesting that you say if they are looking for a tv they will find one. I'll be interested to see how that all works.
AndRay Wrote:Marketshare will not be competition any more, or any less, than your existing fellow merchants are.

The intention of Marketshare is not "competition", but population, and to join our merchants within the Wagglepop Marketplace for the benefit of our shoppers and ultimately, the reputation of Wagglepop as a good place to shop.

That can only strengthen our market share for the long term. 
blue shark Wrote:a. fees tripled from $9.95 to $29.95 .
b. new storeowners must pay before opening a store
c. Wagglepop LLC to sell dropshipped items on the site to pad the listing count

I just borrowed that part of your post Sharkface.  Hope you don't mind (not that I care if you do anyways) :imptongue:


prepay $29.95 for a store on a site with 54K monthly uniques vs. $0 for a store on a site (Ecrater) with 460K uniques -> Happy001

Quote:We feel strongly that any comparison to listing on eBay, or to quality independent shopping carts will continue to show Wagglepop as an extraordinary value and uniquely effective offering.

Happy001 Happy001 Happy001
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