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Wagglepop BS Wrote:We feel strongly that any comparison to listing on eBay, or to quality independent shopping carts will continue to show Wagglepop as an extraordinary value and uniquely effective offering.
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You want a comparison, you got one.
I know sellers who are grossing over $1 million annually on eBay.
I know sellers who are grossing over $1 million annually on Amazon.
I know sellers who are grossing over $1 million annually on their websites.
I know sellers who are grossing over $700,000 annually on their Pricegrabber storefronts.
The best Wagglepop can offer is a board junkie making $76 daily.
There Ray, I did a comparison and Wagglepop was shown to be unique all right--unique in its inability to deliver buyers to sellers (which is because WP's management has been too busy the past 2 years trying to bleed the sellers dry to even advertise its own site).
OMFG! Wagglepoop is a bargain at twice the price! I'm going to race right over there and reserve myself some space.Â
$29.95 a month?????? wow..What a bargoon.Â
He has lost his flippin mind!
I paid $30 for a short (very short) while for a Presto Store. I had, in just 2 months with 350 items listed, over 16,000 views of individual products, not just page hits. That's an average of 300 hits per product in 2 months. In fact, for about 2 weeks, a Google search for "Wagglepop" placed me at #2, but I still got more 100x views on Presto Store. I also sold 10 times what I sold on WP during those 2 months... I sold on both concurrently, and this made me realize what a dud WP was. I was one of 5 "founders" who left the same month after test driving a Presto Store.
And, let's look at the promises...
Wagglepop Checkout - 2 years running on this promise.
No competing ads promise - BROKEN... this doesn't mean that I expected Ray not to compete with 100 year old magazine pages. But, give serious competition to sellers through SaleHoo, or Doba? Sounds like competing ads to me. It also sounds like Ray's little insurance policy when he is left with just 50 stores, at least he can have some income. Maybe he just wants the site all to himself? He's the only one he can trust? No one else will trust him again?
He's officially LOONEY! I know of no one with any brain at all who would pay that amount for no buyers. Thus, I see many of the 2 and 3 store sellers closing down to just one, the smart ones getting their butts out of there, and then see the true numbers come out.
Now, who wants to make bets on the July 1 store count?
I bet 50.
At least we know 3 people happy to hear this news... Mark, Mo, and S Ray. Now the spotlight is at least off them for a little while. ;D
A new WP feature! Sellers who speak out against the fee hike have their user IDs changed to report_050208-1! Neat-o!ÂÂ
The seller formerly known as EPM says his goodbyes:
Quote:report_050208-1  03 May 2008 01:18
I agree xxxx, I think it's just too much.
Quote:report_050208-1  03 May 2008 01:33
I've been booted off the boards for expressing my opinions. I'm sure this post will also be pulled, but to anyone who sees it, I wish you the best of luck in your continued ventures. Goodbye to all the friends I've made here.
Quote:report_050208-1  03 May 2008 01:34 ÂÂ
Oh yeah, it's EPM Stxxx. Bye all.
EDIT because I missed the best one
Quote:report_050208-1Â 03 May 2008 01:55Â Â Â
So, I've been booted from the boards and wish to close my store, however customer service has not responded. They apparently can follow me around and pull all my posts, but don't have time to close my store.
Great customer service here.
How very eBay of Wagglepop.
EPM Stxxx
Sneaky, an earlier poster who left was renamed "null". Check back in the threads and you'll find him. Isn't Ray inventive? Just another form of intimidation.
Quote:wagglepopCC2Â 27 Mar 2008 23:05Â Â Â
WP Members,
I would ask that members please refresh their understanding of the Board Participation Policy and this Clarification of Board Participation Policy.
As per existing policy, please do not extend discussion of, or link to, "disputes" from non-WP forums or blogs.
These boards are for respectful and productive exchanges and nothing else.
AP
Quote:wagglepopCC2Â 06 Apr 2008 10:45Â Â Â
WP Members,
I would ask that members please refresh their understanding of the Board Participation Policy and this Clarification of Board Participation Policy.
We are updating this Clarification of Board Participation policy as a courtesy.
1. As per existing policy, posts which do not meet our standard as constructive, courteous, or productive - or "expire" by way of intent or need - are removed from the Community boards (daily if necessary) as part of routine board maintenance.
2. As per existing policy, please do not extend discussion of, or link to, "disputes" from non-WP forums or blogs. That sort of "discussion" can be done somewhere else - but not here.
All members who choose to use our Community boards agree to respect this section of the Board Participation Policy and Clarification of Board Participation Policy (and all sections) as a condition of participation.
Members who cannot respect and abide by all of the sections of the Board Participation Policy and Clarification of Board Participation Policy cannot participate.
These boards are for respectful and productive exchanges and nothing else.
AP
Quote:wagglepopCC2Â 10 Apr 2008 18:05Â Â Â
WP Members,
I would ask that members please refresh their understanding of the Board Participation Policy and this Clarification of Board Participation Policy.
In particular, all sections regarding post and/or thread removal. Posts which are outside of the Board Participation Policy and/or the Clarification of Board Participation Policy will be removed as a part of routine board maintenance.
While we do not expect that all active members will agree with all facets of the Board Participation Policy, we do expect that all members who choose to participate will respect our decisions regarding post/thread removal and to acknowledge that determination of such is our responsibility and ours alone to make.
Abiding by the Board Participation Policy and the Clarification of Board Participation Policy is a requirement for partcipation.
Posts whch are made with the sole topic being discussion of our decisions as a staff on posts/threads that were removed are outside of the Board Participation Policy and the Clarification of Board Participation Policy and will be further removed.
AP
Quote:wagglepopCC2Â 03 May 2008 01:07Â Â Â
WP Members,
I would ask at this time that any member unfamiliar with the Wagglepop Board Participation Policy or any posted clarification to please update their understanding of them.
Posts that represent ideas or thoughts outside of support of Wagglepop and the community should be posted elsewhere. Not here. These boards are for friendly support and constructive exchange of ideas and solutions.
Thank you.
AP
The above is evidence of a broken record. The sheep just aren't listening!!! Baaaaaa
Quote:Posts that represent ideas or thoughts outside of support of Wagglepop and the community
Well, at least he finally admitted that any posts that aren't Rah-Rah-Sis-Boom-Ray will be deleted.Â
And $29.95?
One Popper is happy about today's news :
you know who, posting on her new favorite board pheebay Wrote:My favorite favorite favorite part of the announcement is that Wagglepop will soon be selling on Wagglepop. There are an endless stream of buyers who show up at Wagglepop looking for items that they can't find on the site because the online selling community never stepped up to properly populate the site. AWESOME that Wagglepop is going to take matters into their own hands as far as that goes
Quote:I think it's great that they will be getting in the trenches with us sellers to help populate the site with the items that buyers come looking for. That will increase traffic, and more importantly, it will encourage buyers to return the next time they look for something online. It's a unique approach that I've not seen from other sites except for maybe Amazon and Overstock??
As someone who has sold on Amazon for years and listed over 55,000 items on Oversuck before leaving (with my middle finger extendedÂ
tolensmiley: ), I can tell you, and I'm sure every Amazon seller with the exception of PS could tell you, that the seller is at a disadvantage when they're competing against the site for buyers.Â
xwpopper Wrote:But, give serious competition to sellers through SaleHoo, or Doba? Sounds like competing ads to me.
It sounds like 2 things to me
1. POTENTIAL DISASTER (FOR RAY'S FINANCES) -a seller (KaRay) whose only experience is with low risk categories (magazine cutouts) starts selling in the categories with the highest fraud rates- TVs, consumer electronics, cell phones, etc. Scammers target sellers on small auction sites who sell these items because they're an easy mark. WP sellers don't have the same fraud prevention tools that website sellers have available to them.
2. A WASTE OF TIME AND PROOF THAT RAY IS AN IDIOT- buyers in most dropship categories don't want to take the time to register at a site, especially an unknown one, and wait for an invoice. They want to purchase and pay immediately, Ray should have learned from Floormat Guy's lack of sales (or the owner of Bid-alot's lack of sales when he tried to sell tens of thousands of dropshipped consumer electonics items last year) that dropshipped items and eBay alternatives aren't a good mix. You might be able to attract a collectibles buyer to a small site but your chances of luring the average buyer of new mass market dropshipped items is slim to nil.
you know who Wrote:It's a unique approach that I've not seen from other sites except for maybe Amazon and Overstock??
It's not unique. Bid-alot tried it last year (and probably used the same dropshipping middleman- i.e. doba or drop ship design that Ray is planning to use). Bid-alot pushed their listing count from 15K to 100K doing it--their reason for doing it was because the site owner had the site up for sale and wanted to artificially inflate the sale price.
Well AndRay's edit/delete finger is just a-smokin!
Quote:xxxxxx 03 May 2008 02:47  Â
I posted a question and cannot find it or a reply. Is there a qlitch?
And once again:
Quote:wagglepopCC2Â 03 May 2008 02:49Â Â Â
xxxxxx,
Please read the Board Participation Policy and all posted Board Participation Policy Clarifications.
AP
But the poor popper doesn't understand what they did wrong:
Quote:Joshie 03 May 2008 02:52  Â
I have. I do not comprehend. Did I do something wrong by asking questions in this thread. I am confused. What did I do wrong?
Andray's gun is loaded and pointing at his foot.Â
All of the quotes Sneaky gave earlier have gone poof.
Yes, indeed the Poopman has lost his alleged mind. Poopers that will pay the 29.95 a month are truly brainwashed by the fuzzy slippers guy.Â
An Amazon store costs 10 bucks more than Ray's Mickey Mouse outfit and zon gets 900,000 times the traffic of that defunct site.
I keep waiting for these poppers to wake the hell up, but I think they have succumbed to the Kumbaya of the sweeter than saccharin community. However, that community is beginning to fall apart. :turkey2:
Ray, you're such a whore.
Board participation reminder #2 tonight
Ray Romeo Wrote:I have asked Chris for strict policy enforcement this evening so I would strongly encourage anyone posting to be sure to post within the Board Participation Policy and all clarifications.
This is Wagglepop, not eBay, and we have much higher standards of responsibility for participation.
AP
He's right. It's not eBay.
Ray Romeo Wrote:ha ha ha ha ha! OMG you are not going to believe THIS! The dirty rat bas*ards are RAISING the ebay motors insertion fees! $1.00 to 9.99 is now .35 instead of .30! Holy cripes , these mo****r f****ers got some BIG BIG balls. Jesus. What's next? They gonna come to my house and shoot my cat?
If he reacted that way to a $0.05 increase can you imagine what his reaction would have been if they had raised the eBay Motors fee from $9.95 to $29.95?ÂÂ
tolensmiley: