Floormat Guy is already ahead of the game. He is selling dropshipped floormats.
Or should I say listing floormats.
He and Ray will be on the same page, inflating the listing count and selling
NADA
Bees that poster is the same ole whacky dude DRM, Brian, et al....
"Those jealous people" gives him away every time
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Quote:Hi everyone. With the exception of losing some friends' stores on WP, I am very much looking forward to seeing how the site evolves with the upcoming changes.
Just a little FYI. My listing count is dropping some today due to some much needed housekeeping. I am here to stay so do not want anyone to notice the number and think that I am moving out.
Mr. Floormat
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I think we all know that was directed at TT.
If there is one group or person (Sherrand) who would notice
someone's listings drop and may assume that seller was
leaving and post about it (knowing Ray is reading) it would be
right here on TT.
WagglePop:
Like the site not the site owner.
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Nikki, Floor Mat Guy has been subtly dropping listings for a while now. That's due to his drop-shipper revamping inventory. If any lurking popper is interested in buying FMGs products a bit cheaper then he has them listed I recommend going directly to his source:
http://dropshipdirect.com/
And if you follow the links to kitchenware you will discover product and pictures identical to items PS has listed on WP. What a coincidence! They use the same source! No wonder they cover each others backs here and on PSU. Perhaps AndRay will use the same source when he cranks out his drop ship products.
Or maybe he already has started as FMG. Internet research has not revealed any presence or footprint of Automotively Floored anywhere in cyberspace except on WP. No previous selling history. Yet by his own admission FMG claims to be aware of events prior to opening his WP store. If he wasn't a seller there or somewhere else, why would he follow the drama of WP?
Just a suspicion on my part but makes one wonder.
I wouldn't dare report any stores that appear to be heading for the door. I wouldn't want to be responsible for the popper brigade swooping down on them with pep talks or pity sales in an attempt to keep them anchored to WP. No one deserves that.
I'll close with a tidbit of a post I came across on another forum called Collector's Universe. The date for site opening is wrong, and Ray wasn't booted off eBay (suspended maybe) but the guts of the post are interesting:
Quote: Tuesday February 05, 2008 9:24 AMÂ
Wagglescam the guy who owns it was booted from Ebay. He tried to open this site in 2004, but all the credit card information got hacked from the initial database and he postponed the re-opening and he tries to deny it ever happened. Yeah I trust that clown. I signed up and noticed a trend with feedback. Most of the items sold there are bought by some of the larger sellers and many of these items turn back up on Ebay. Three of the largest sellers there based on feedback are based within 20 miles of the owners home. They are also some of the largest buyers there.
Think about this scam.. We get 1000 sellers paying 9.95 a month. Thats 10000 a month. We go and randomly buy alot of junk from these sellers to make them think they are actually selling here. We buy say 2500 to 5000 a month of this junk and resell it on Ebay we still come out way ahead. The "success" of the sellers will in turn draw in more sellers.
I sent an email to the founder regarding my suspicions and evidence I had backing it to the owner with in 30 minutes I was banned from the site and the email I got back simply said "prove it." Makes me think I was onto something there.
A few other posters on the thread warn sellers to avoid WP too but this was the most detailed.
Quote:If any lurking popper is interested in buying FMGs products a bit cheaper then he has them listed I recommend going directly to his source:
http://dropshipdirect.com/
FloorMatGuy could increase his margins significantly if he dealt directly with the real supplier Mats4Less (who also
offers dropshipping) instead of using middleman DSDI (Drop Ship Direct)--of course the supplier only deals with real businesses and the fact that FMG doesn't charge sales tax to California residents tells me he probably doesn't meet the supplier's qualifications (tax ID or business license).
Speaking of sales taxes, have Wagglepop's largest sellers been given a special Popper exemption from the sales tax laws that the rest of us have to follow? Very few of them charge sales tax on orders shipping to their own state (a couple actually do). Maybe I should move my business to WP to take advantage of that exemption. :
EDIT: The special Popper exemption from charging sales tax apparently extends to eBay sales too. Wagglepop owner
Ray Romeo's eBay listings don't mention NY State sales tax either.
EDIT 2: the reason why NY based Ray not charging sales tax on instate shipments pisses me off can be found
in this post
amy Wrote:Very few of them charge sales tax on orders shipping to their own state
You're
ASSuming that all those feedback padding seller to seller sales result in a shipment of the goods to the buyer.ÂÂ
tolensmiley:
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Speaking of sales taxes, have Wagglepop's largest sellers been given a special Popper exemption from the sales tax laws that the rest of us have to follow? Very few of them charge sales tax on orders shipping to their own state (a couple actually do). Maybe I should move my business to WP to take advantage of that exemption. :
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They are "taxed" enough just belonging to WP.Â
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You're
ASSuming that all those feedback padding seller to seller sales result in a shipment of the goods to the buyer.Â
tolensmiley:
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Sneaky, let me guess. Silver Charm and Unique are your prime examples. Did you know they live down the street from each other? Makes sense to me that they don't use USPS to ship. Delivery is either non-existent or they exchange goods when they get together for morning coffee. Taxes? Doubt one penny exchanges hands. And those 2 are just a tip of the iceberg.
Unique took a shot at selling gift certificates. I don't think this venture produced the results she was looking for.
http://tinyurl.com/4c248z
Sherrand,
I, too, had been observing a drop in FMG's listings in the last couple weeks and thought maybe he was weeding out what was being warehoused on WP but has since sold with dropshipping from his site. Thank you for confirming many of my suspicions on Ray, FMG and the dropshipping coalition, but didn't know where to go to find the evidence. The fact that FMG's CA registration is practically next door to PS has always been a little too coincidental, especially when PS herself said something to the effect of "and how do you know that Ray doesn't sell on WP?" And, of couse, we all know Ray restores classic cars (bought in CA off of eBay). I've also suspected PS and Ray have something "special", and I wouldn't be surprised if she's getting a piece of Ray's monthly seller tithes as compensation for all her spam, blog BS and who knows what else: sockpuppeting perhaps? I do suspect her involvement goes way deeper. As I recall she did let it slip that Ray will at some time be selling, and to not ask her how she knows, but that she "knows". And the fact that Ray's info is "secret" in Who's Who leads credence to the possibility that the site may be partnered or even owned by someone else.
So, at least on the surface, it appears that the holy trinity (Ray, PS and FMG or FMG/Ray) are orchestrating their own dropshipping empire using WP as the conduit. And where are they getting the financing for their contracts with dropshippers? Let's see. A 300% increase in the monthly tithe was just announced. Hmmmmmm.
Found this thread while researching WP after observing its strangeness. Found TTÂ’s information alarming but helpful. A lesson learned for me.  It is really sad that it wasnÂ’t a real site. So is customer care someone or are all alter egos him?  Does anyone know if any fraud has occurred to anyone who has signed up on WP? New here and have not dug through all the forums. ( I have been lurking and reading and wanted to say thank you)Â
What happens if someone does not pay their stores monthly fees?
I don't recall ever giving them my ss # so what can they do?