Quote:One very important item: Powerseller had this same discussion taken place on the WP forum, it would have been edited, posts would have been deleted, and very likely a member would have been suspended.
It is imperative in a free society that speech be allowed expression. The vast majority of posts that have been deleted on WP were neither in violation of Ray's policies or profane, obscene, etc... The post's were merely opinions, conjectures, and valid questions regarding the site, request for closure, and yes debate. They were deleted solely as a means of control by Ray, and to silence any perceived dissent.
People who leave and close up shop now have basically been banned to a bottom board dungeon. How is that courteous,or respectful, and why on earth is that even being supported by other members.
This bears REPEATING! Thanks, Chiquita. Thank you for this post.
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Hey, POWERSELLER! You never answered MY question!
If everybody at WP is just making money hand-over-fist, why have 1/3 of the sellers closed shop and split the pop stand?
I don't suppose you're going to tell me it's because they were doing so well, they just got too exhausted to handle all the success. Just a guess, but I'm thinking that maybe it's because (news flash)
THEY WEREN'T MAKING JACK! To close shop after working your butt off to set it up, work it for months, transfer listings, create announcements, etc., email customers repeatedly, and then undo it all and start all over again on another site is NOT easy and very time-consuming (I know, I was one). I seriously doubt it was a decision made in haste. And we're just talking sellers who have actually CLOSED SHOP. How many others are MAKING JACK, but haven't yet gathered the strength to go "bye-bye" or are still trying to figure where to hang their hats once they leave? Somehow that doesn't fit my definition of "growing."
And don't tell me a third of the flock have flown the nest because KaRay was doing you guys a favor by "weeding" out bad apples who don't pay invoices. THAT'S B.S. To my knowledge,
not a single former WP seller here was terminated for being delinquent in his/her account at any point. In fact, MOST OF US (me included) received MORE INVOICES AFTER termination, along with threatening, harassing collection letters WHEN NONE OF US OWED WP A DIME. Explain that! There are a few words I would use to describe this practice, but HONEST wouldn't be one of them.
And since we're on the subject of delinquencies, did it ever occur to you WHY any of those KaRay deemed unworthy of operating in a "trust-based community", as he/she puts it, may have been delinquent in the first place?
BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T MAKING ENOUGH TO COVER THERE MONTHLY FEES! Again, just a guess. Or perhaps they didn't feel what WP was giving them (which was nothing) wasn't worth $10/mo? Again, just a guess.
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So, go sell more underwear. I don't know how much money you made all told over the time period you had your WP store open and operational, but I can tell you I wouldn't be dancing in the aisles over $600. My mortgage payment alone is $2000/mo. I don't have the luxury of sitting around waiting and praying for KaRay to lead me down the yellow brick road to e-commerce heaven. I HAVE TO MAKE SERIOUS CASH. If you had to actually LIVE soley on the money you make at WP, you and whomever you care for would be on the street.
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Oh, and isn't it lovely we're able to have this pleasant discussion? Notice! No bad words, no obscene remarks, just statements and observations -- but you would NEVER IN YOUR WILDEST DREAMS see this post on WP. Unlike WP, open discourse through freedom of speech are permitted on this site. We call it LEARNING.