You all are cracking me upÂ
I don't know what is funnier....reading this thread (at least the funny parts, not the serious parts about Pop Land), or watching the antics of my kittens. They are playing hide and seek....one at a time they are hiding, and when one of the other's walk past, they jump out and scare them. It's amazing how high kittens can jump straight up in the air. :hoxmascat: :jicat:
Ray posting on FAS/captured at OTWA
Quote: A very responsible, highly professional post from the man that wants your credit card
romeo361
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Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:14 am Post subject: Good Morning!
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And, by the way, it is a good morning.
Every one is.... another day to be alive, and maybe make a difference.
For those curious, I though I'd lay out the entire marketing plan, as well as the plans for Wagglepop in general....
I've ranked them in order of current popularity, for ease of browsing:
1. Spam
Yes, not only are we going to email every single man, woman and child in America several million times per day, I have a secret plan with the Nigerian government to spam the entire continent of Africa.
For nations and households without computers, we are going to pass out tee-shirts that say "I've been spammed", and hold a spam-eating competition for children under 12.
2. Launch Date/"Vaporware"
Alas, it's true. We are actually going to launch in October, 2012, but strapping the software to Evil Knieval's crash helmet, and shooting him out of a cannon on New Year's Eve across the English Channel from London.
If he makes it to Ireland, he's going to run through the street screaming "wagglepop", but in German, to build brand recognition in the European market.
3. Evil Empire
Also true. Evil, we are! We're not actually 5 guys who want to make a difference, working hard to do something rather than just talk about it......
In reality, we are behind bars, in prison, using online access to scam thousands of people out of the incredible income generated by FREE listings.
It's pure genious, I say!
~ Now that the truth is finally out, everyone is now saved form the 'clutches' of this horrible thing, this monster....this abomination to all things online......Wagglepop!
Ray
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Overhead and I both share a great admiration for Toyranch. His posts on the OTWA thread are some of the best. This particular one touched me because it goes to the heart of why I and many of us here are attempting to educate others who are seeking alternatives from Ebay, and to help them avoid the mistakes that many of us have made.
Quote:Of all the posts I've read on this board, Toy Ranch's comments not only are logical and well considered, but they ring true based on my own online selling experience.
The WP "phenomena" we are seeing is exactly what I've seen with Bidville and Ioffer. A huge amount of hopeful and wishful thinking, mixed with a high dosage of cheerleading. The whole thing reminds me of the stock boards - I was a professional stock trader for about 5 years. People buy a stock and only want to hear good news and positive analysis. They want to believe they have discovered the next big thing - but mostly - that they alone are wise enough or keen enough to realize this. Professional traders make money because most people buy and sell out of emotion (greed and fear).
Anyone that shows up with a contrary opinion, technical analysis, or financial analysis is immediately dismissed as a shill, a shorter, or someone trying to "talk down" the price so they can get in themselves. Only rarely does an investor engage in intelligent argument, but it happens enough to reinforce the cheerleaders.
Now I'm not saying that the naysayers are always correct - but when one shows up armed with factual data and significant experience in the area - they generally make more sense (and are usually more often right) than the "masses" who think they can "feel" when a stock is gonna be big.
I don't think Toy Rancher's motives are anything more than a good will effort to inform a community of sellers of what he knows to be true.
I know a couple of powersellers that would agree 100% with TR's sentiments, but wouldn't ever think of actually stating it. They love the idea of an eBay exodus. In fact, they would like nothing more than seeing their competitors move their items to some remote amateur site that has virtually no chance of attracting a credible mass of buyers. They really don't care about the countless hours their competitors will waste posting on these other sites with 1 and 2% sell thrus. And they really don't care if it means that some will have to go back to their wage-slave jobs and put away their dreams of online selling for good this time.
But they are also quite pragmatic. If by some miracle of the marketplace, WP becomes the next big thing, they know it will take a lot of time. If critical buyer mass happens, they'll be happy to sell there. Because that's what professional sellers do - they follow the only thing that really matters - the buyers. It won't matter if they like Ray, or the software, or the site, or the policies, or the fees. If there are good buyers for their products, and they can make a profit selling them, all of this can be overcome. This is business, and there is zero advantage to jumping on to this bandwagon early.
Now I know I'm new to this board, but I'm not new to this discussion. [b]I think TR is just one of those sellers that actually cares about this commnity and doesn't want to see sellers become fodder for another auction pipedream.
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631
They lost two stores since this morning.Â
TO YOHB and CHIQUITA Â
Your postingof excerpts from old theads is highly valuable and VERY APPRECIATED by ALL OF US -- lurkers and members alike.
There's no need to mock or deride Ray. His own words will destroy him. The only thing potential victims need to see are the facts, which bury Ray faster than an avalanche in the tropics. Every time I read stuff like this (even though I was there and lived through it), I see red. Simply for the crime of trying to make a living, I get caught in some ego-maniac's mind-game. It may not be a criminal offense in a court of law (although some of his shenanagans are very close to crossing the line), but it is a psychologically criminal offense, in my opinion. I wish I could sue for all the time, energy and money I lost on his dopey fiasco and didn't make elsewhere. Â Â
TRUTH -- these quotes need to be part of X-Pop Nation. They are priceless, classic Ray. Â
The store number has been flip flopping between 631 and 633 all day long.
Quote:TRUTH -- these quotes need to be part of X-Pop Nation. They are priceless, classic Ray.
I know. they will make it there. I have been busy today listing. I will get caught up late today. Some may also go into our fact sheet so when we post it there will be a link to those quotes that I will store in a page on my website.
let the truth be told
u1it4less - "it's all in the name.."
X-POP NATION, A real seller's network
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For store owners who haven't a sale but want to reward your
nonbuyers for
not purchasing your already low priced items
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Why you say? Because you
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not selling at below cost!
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Dynamic in Wagglethink only!!!
Dynamic Discounts!! Not for the weak at heart.
Get yours today at
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