Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

[isawthelight]

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i want to know about karma too   

congrats to pet guy and family


I am expecting a baby due on july 16th
he will be my first boy ( already have a 12 y old girl, and guess this....a 10 month old girl  :blinkie:


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Congrats! My son was born on July 16th. He was due the 24th but he wanted out earlier. LOL My daughter was born on April 16th. I purposely did that so their birthdates would be easy to remember.

Wow, 12-year-old girl and 10-month girl. That's cool because your older girl is able to help out now.


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Funny you should mention that... My oldest daughters b-day is Oct 23rd and the youngest is April 23rd. Exactly 18 months apart. Yes, it IS an easier way to remember birthdays 


~Patti~
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That is so weird when they're born on the same date. It's a kind of like...karma (had to think of a way to stay on topic, lol!)

Meows...glad Craig is doing better and hope things go well with getting the cast off tomorrow!

Platz...you did the right thing. Please don't doubt it. It's our pain talking because we miss them so much. You did what was best for Dusty!

Flying...what an adorable baby! Enjoy!

and Happy Father's Day to all the Dads out there!

Rebecca

[Platzki]

Lurkist, Moon and everyone... I know we did the right thing in my brain... it's my heart that is having trouble accepting it.  It'll just take time.  Thanks for the kind thoughts and words.  I had my mom and some family over last night for my sons b-day. Everyone is broken hearted about it... I'm glad I have you guys to vent to... thanks for that.

FH & TPG!!!!!  That baby boy is sooooooo awesome!!  Thank you for sharing his pic with us!  Congrats again on the newest addition!

Meows... waving back to you...    Hope you're feeling better soon!!!  High five!!  I'm also happy to hear about hubby... give him hugs from us!!

Happy Daddy Day to all the daddies, grampies and great grampies... LOL

[Platzki]

Hey guys!!  Almost 1000 pages!!!

What do we win if we do the post that makes 1000???

[bratpack]

FH, What a sweet little boy, he is a cutie pie!  Thanks for posting that adorable picture.

[flying high]

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Hey guys!!  Almost 1000 pages!!!

What do we win if we do the post that makes 1000???


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We should win something! :turkey2:

[Sweet Girl 70]

[quote author=cash1381 link=topic=3775.msg38659#msg38659 date=1167539356]
Here is the 10 reasons to sell on WP tread, kind of long. For those who cannot get on to read it
Edited to note: Where does anyone say "Cuz I'm getting rich"?


I am asking experienced WP members for their help and support.

I posted awhile back about watching the developments on this venue. I wish to start selling after the first of the year. I cannot start at this time (my accountant and business advisor have a fit when I start a new project at the end of a year).
After the fiasco at eBay during 2006 with great business losses they have advised me to pick several sites and watch then make a decision which one or two to sell on.
I've narrowed it down to 4 sites and I am posting this same question on all 4. We all need assistance sometimes in making business decisions and I need your help.
I am asking for 10 good reasons I should sell here other than the store fees, Red Carpet and Adsmart.
I will respect and take into consideration all of your replys.
Thank you in advance.


Well, top customer support would be one great reason to sell here. My questions and concerns have always been addressed quickly by Karen.

Another reason would be this great community of store owners who offer encouragement and support and caring.


The more than fair fee structure is a HUGE reason, but here are 10 more that I can think of off the top of my head.
1. The ability to set up a beautiful store.
2. Total freedom to list any number of items without having to worry about how many you can afford to list.
3. Awesome community support from intelligent, talented, creative, and helpful fellow sellers.
4. Automatic feeding of listings to Google Froogle and Google Base.
5. Customer Service, staff, and ownership dedicated to success.
6. Ease of listing items and revising existing listings quickly.
7. Unlimited future potential.
8. Ability to list in all formats at no additional cost and have unlimited automatic relisting until items sell.
9. Ability to discuss needs and wants with staff and often get a very speedy and thoughtful response.
10. Buy More Now program increases your odds of making more multiple item sales instead of single item sales.
I can't say enough about the community of sellers...and buyers too! All you have to do is look at the Prayer Request threads to see the outpouring of love and support that we give each other. There's usually someone to help answer questions, whether it's another seller or WP Customer Care. Customer Care rocks like no other! Courteous answers, prompt answers, just all around the best I've found!


All the reasons listed, but recently, I've become aware of how poor customer service is on some of the other sites, so I have to reinforce how excellent that service is... personalized answers fast on every one of my many, many requests.

If you have ebayed, you'll find this site designed to mimic the best parts of that so you can get flying right off the bat. This also benefits buyers who come here and find it all very familiar, yet cleaner and NO ADVERTISING (can you believe what they are doing over thEre with guiding folks off-site with their advertising).

Staff here is always quick to take advice and ideas from the members, which is encouraging.

The community has been encouraged to feel part ownership in the POP, and this will be one of its biggest strengths. The paper sellers (postcards, paper, ephemera) and the book sellers are already banding together to cross-sell and promote each other to make this a destination site for those specialties. There's a few mini-malls doing the same thing for a variety of stores. Everyone is exchanging ideas for guerilla marketing.

The staff is working to keep the boards kind, friendly and supportive -- no need for posting IDs here. Since we are all working our tails off, many still phasing off of ebay and running multiple stores for the first time and even setting up their own websites, it helps to have a soft place to land at the end of the day for support, encouragement or a laugh.

Finally, tell a friend or 2 that you are thinking about Wagglepop and then name 3 of the other sites. 2 days later (or even an hour later), ask them for all the site names. Chances are (in my experience, 100% of the time), they'll ONLY remember Wagglepop. The rest will go something like this, "errrr.. bid auction hi buy moon... some kind of bird?" Name recognition is crucial for attracting and keeping new buyers.

Thank you all for your excellent replys. I am still open to more answers.
I'm making a check list.. and will let this and the other 3 threads run until the 24th to give sellers time to post...
Thank you again...This is great!


All of the above, and one more that I can think of. Where else will your competitors actually HELP you do better. I have seen this over and over. Great advise, sharing marketing ideas, and even going as far as some sellers actually putting competitors links in their own auctions. All for the good of the cause.
Now where else are you going to find that???
Welcome to the Revolution !!

Angel mentioned the customer service but I'd like to expand on this. Her name is Karen, her wagglepop name is "WagglepopCC1" and she gives personalized service. None of this to whom is may concern garbage but you'll be mentioned by screen name and her help is also followed by words of encouragement.

A lot will depend on what you sell, how much time and effort you want to spend at it and what your goals are.

You can't top Wagglepop for all the above reasons ... so there's not much reason to list them again ... but we're all new here and have a long way to go. Most of us have a number of years in the selling field under our belts, so it won't take forever.

The collectors are just now finding us but normal everyday items are starting to show a profit at the end of the month. Don't expect a full time income the first month you're open ... or the second ... or the third ... that goal is still on the horizon but the potential is better here than anywhere else on the internet.

If you're wanting the best alternative in this field ... Wagglepop is your answer.


I totally agree with all the great things mentioned above.
One thing I would like to point out that I don't think I 've seen mentioned yet...
Wagglepop is STORE FRIENDLY! The last "place" I auctioned at made a store look like a bother, a store owner feel unwanted.
That's my 2 cents...for what it's worth.

I should add that I don't have a lot of the problems here that I have on 'E'. Just today I had my account there taken over by an unauthorized 3rd party, then access to my account was blocked for a while. On top of that I have a non-paying buyer from an August 6th transaction (yes, 3 1/2 months ago) that I went far out of my way to work things out with, they still haven't sent any payment, I FINALLY had to leave negative feedback (3 1/2 months, good gravy, how much more patient and accomodating can you be). Now this buyer has said that she will leave me negative feedback because I left it for her. Huh??? WT_???

Thank God that I have had 100% wonderful and paying buyers here!

I am a STORE seller through and through. Wagglepop is very store oriented unlike a certain larger site that shall remain nameless that considers their once-thriving-now-dead-and-dying stores to be a "merchandising error".


To be in on the ground floor of a new business....how exciting. WP is very new but growing like crazy! Wp is the only place that I know of that asks it store owners what needs to be improved, fixed, added, changed..and listens!

In it's infancy...it is already getting noticed as a competeitor at othEr auction sites. If E wasn't so concerned why are they banning anyone from even mentioning WP ! LOL

I love the people here. I can say I have made a few new friends. Everyone is very helpful. And at these fees....well, enough said.


A brief update..my choices are down to 3 already. One site changed their format today. In the middle of the busiest part of the selling season. Really messed up their sellers. Not a place I want to be, I've had enough of that at the Big E.
Cross that one off.

A lot of great reasons have been listed and I agree with all of them.
Here's one of my favorites:
Wagglepop is dedicated to making this work, they acutally listen to us and often ask for our input and what we want to see incorporated!
The WP team (and us) are building a fantastic community and online force that will one day be the best around.
Ain't that great?!

Hi,
I would like to add my two cents here.
1) I had to contact customer support a few times (just with general questions) I had a response within 2 hours. AND it was the correct answer.
2) Other sellers from the get go (who didn't know me) when I post on the boards gave their honest AND polite answers or opinions.
3) I have had several sales from first time wagglepoppers who are not sellers. When I asked them how they found my items, they replied google.
4) Listing your items are very easy and quick. ( No time consuming pages to go through)
5) Very easy name to remember ( My opionion is it is a fun sounding upbeat name)
6) So far, there has not been any bad SURPRISES from Wagglepop.
7) Other sellers have dedicated there time and efforts in supporting Wagglepop not just for themselves but for others - see WPSSU in web promotion on the boards
8) I have listed on other "free sites" for awhile and I have been lucky to have 1 or 2 sales every few months.
9) Sales started very slow here but have been gradually picking up for me.
10) I just don't have the fear that I had at the other place of "what are they going to do next"
Hope that helps you in making your decision.

DITTO DITTO DITTO to all the above. This is my first venue at opening up a store. I was a buyer only at first over thEre, then started selling. I didn't have a store, but I sold auction style. I did very well. But the fees of relisting and final value and extra picture, etc didn't help me at all. Things I wanted to keep relisting because I knew they would sell and would maybe need 2 or 3 times became not so profitable and soon I was in the hole because of the fees..
The boards here are SUPER FRIENDLY to say the least! Everyone jumps in to help immediately. No question is dumb to any one of them either. And Karen - Customer Service is top notch too I might add.
You would be most happy here, I'm sure of that! Happy Thanksgiving.

Here is my top ten list in no particular order:
1) Excellent customer service. Karen goes above and beyond with handling questions/concerns in a prompt courteous manner. Whereas on the othEr site you can wait days for a response only to have your concern not addressed in the reply, on Wagglepop we have often had our concern addressed within an hour or two. I have NEVER seen this speed of response on ANY other venue.
2) A wonderful, supportive, motivated bunch of sellers to share this venue with. All of my interaction with other sellers has been positive and I am honored to be building this venue with them.
3) The ability to list as many items as you wish for NO additiional fees.
4) The ease of listing items which is very user friendly.
5) The wealth of information and help from this great bunch of members. So many go above and beyond to offer their help which I have never witnessed on any other venue.
6) The ability to set up a customized store and actually have your listings be visible inside and outside of Wagglepop with the automatic feeds to Google/Froogle/Google Base.
7) Having the ability to provide input for future enhancements, improvements and features on Wagglepop and actually having Wagglepop customer service listen and act on our requests.
8) The nice, clean, layout of the site which is user friendly and isn't "junky" looking. This what first attracted me to Wagglepop. My theory is, if I don't like the look of the site or find it buyer friendly when I look at it from the perspective of a buyer, why would I want to be a seller on a venue like that?
9) Being part of a great visionary alternative site at the ground level. It has great potential and with these great committed sellers......the sky is the limit!
10) Last but not least, I completely agree with Dawn! Wagglepop is STORE FRIENDLY!
     
Ditto to what everyone else has said. Here are a few of the reasons I would recommend WP
1. It is easy to list items, revise items, sell similar items.
2. No charge for re-listing or for gallery pics for store owners.
3. Awesome community--you can't beat the support and help her from other sellers/buyers and from Karen and customer service
4. My items show up on Froogle.
5. I have learned how to use HTML, HMLT, or whatever.....how to put pics in posts, etc.
6. The fees are so easy to pay each month.
That's all I can think of at the moment. Good luck with whatever venue you choose. Please just know that it does take work and time. But it is growing and things are POPPIN'. Hope to see you around.

My reasons mirror all those above. I am not sure I can add too much more but I must say this: I have never had a store before, only did auctions on the other site. Did Okay, but the fees were killing me. I had planned to open a store over thEre in September, but we all know what happened then - everhting doubled! I could not afford that so starting looking around. Found Wagglepop and was delighted how easy it was to open a store, stock it at my own pace and pay no more for one item sitting there (hoping to be bought) than if I listed thousands. Same price every month - WOW! This I could afford.
AND the other sellers here have been great about helping with any question I have had - the listing is really simple. My kids can't believe I actually have a store up and running and have customers visiting and buying. I am in HOG heaven - excuse me - I am in Wagglepop heaven. I have never once regretted my decision to come here. I have a long way to go to be a viable store, but with this site, I am certain I will be a success - as I am absolutely certain Wagglepop with be the Best venue for online buying in the future.
Not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but I love the positive flow here at WP. Have never seen anything like it. Do you know that WP is a trust based business?
That's my 2 cents. Hope it helps you with your decision.

I just LOVE Wagglepop!
I had been selling on E for about 8 months, and loved the selling but not the fees, so started looking elsewhere before the fee hikes loomed too closely. I stumbled on Wagglepop kind of by accident, but after visiting and watching the 400 stores or so for the day, I joined in and never went back (except to gather the stuff off my "desk").
Why do I LOVE Wagglepop...?
1. The community boards are friendly, helpful, prayerful, and just plain fun!
2. WP Customer Service is EXCELLENT, they are more than just customer service... they have become very close to being our friends. We have so far only dealt with Karen who has often joined our fun communications as well as the helpful and technical issues that are posted. Karen now has help with Andrew and Christine, who I'm sure will be just as fun.
3. The fees are wonderful... so wonderful, in fact, that I have opened a second store and I am NOT worried about trying to pay $20.00 a month in order to keep them open.
4. Store set up is easy, enjoyable, and doesn't take long to get started on getting your inventory in there.
5. Listing Items is also easy, enjoyable and is very quick. Revising items takes only seconds (REALLY!)
6. I have learned new things here that I never thought I would get to do... Html, posting pictures, linking pictures, making my own logo, banner, template, etc & so much more! And all just by visiting with the helpful people on the community boards.
7. Being ASKED by WP about what I feel they could improve on to make selling/buying here easier. And not only being asked, but we see improvements based on the comments that the WP buyers & sellers give them. Now who else is going to do that?!
8. WP is upbeat, friendly, motivated, and growing everyday! And it is wonderful to watch it grow too, because I get to be a part of that growth.
9. Getting found on Google/Froogle. And the other places that I have advertised on the internet. I have gotten several sales from outside advertising, enough to pay for my WP fees each month that I have been here. And sales are picking up as WP's name gets spread across the internet and the real world.
10. And like Dawn said... WP is Store Friendly! I have always felt that my business was wanted here by both the WP staff and by the other wagglepoppers who are here with me.
Hope to see you join our revolution and have some fun at WP too!

I love Wagglepop because:
For only $9.95 and no listing fees I can have my own store on the web and list as much as I ant with no additional cost on my inventory!
No additional fees to list in the main search to actually be seen!
Ability to customize my store in many ways and Wagglepop doesn't limit the number of custom pages we can have either! The editor has a lot of great features for us non-html users, and I love the category headers we can add too!
Great community of sellers here....very helpful & friendly!
Great customer service and very timely...Karen has always been much quicker to reply to my emails than I would ever expect!
Wagglepop staff asks for our input and then does what they can to implement as many of our needs, wants, and ideas as much as possible! They really seem to care about us sellers.
I like the smaller community atmosphere here...it's a lot more fun and will be exciting to grow with Wagglepop!
.....etc, etc, etc!! =)
These reasons are just off of the top of my head and in no particular order. Hope you decide to join us and open up a Wagglepop store soon!! I'd like to go ahead and welcome you ahead of time....Welcome to Wagglepop!! =)


Thank you again for all your posts. I have all the information I need at this time.
Now I will be spending the weekend charting and graphing all the complied information from the 3 sites.

Monday I will be presenting the information to
my accountant and business advisor.
Our 2007 business plan will depend on our mutual decisions and on the compiled information.
Unfortunatley it would be a breach of privacy to give you all the private information on a public forum.
The best in Sales to you all.





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[Sweet Girl 70]

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Total "sales" does not mean total "profit".

Exactly. And even if there were no other factors in the mix, who on this thread could live on less than $1000/month? Not even YOU, Ms. WP Braggadocios Seller. We know who you are, and we know that's why you have stores on several OTHER venues, including the one you claim to despise. On the other hand, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of sellers rely on eBay and other venues, including their own sites, EXCLUSIVELY as a means of support.

The point I, and everybody else here has been trying to make all along, is that WP IS NOT A PLACE FOR A BUSINESS-MINDED, CAREER E-TAILER. If you feel all fuzzy and important by being part of an evangelical, crusading clique (I won't use the other "C" word you find so objectionable), then great. But warm fuzzies, dancing bunnies and dopey prayer threads  have never paid my mortgage, or anybody else's on this planet, and until they do, I would NEVER recommend WP to anybody who needs to make a living.

Numbers don't lie (objective ones). Nearly 3/4 of WP's membership has blown the Koolaid stand -- and don't tell me they were all deadbeats -- THAT'S A FLAT-OUT LIE! WP's Alexa stats don't even make a blip on the radar -- (River's blog gets more traffic than WP). And 90% of the respondents on WP's "survey" thread have reported few (less than 25) sales for all of 2007. (Since the thread was started 2 weeks ago, the stores have dropped by 10%). Add to that, there is NO advertising (a one-day Wagglepop AdWords campaign doesn't count). Site issues go unaddressed. The Grand Opening was a total disaster. And what does KaRay say? It's an "industry-wide" issue. That's   

To the seller who has listed items for months and FINALLY got a sale: perfect! You're just what Ray wants: someone who sells on-line as a hobby, so couldn't care less about making money, but who'll pay that store fee like a good little girl every month. 
 


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[Sweet Girl 70]

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Good afternoon all. I just caught up reading both here and PSU. I was the only one online last night when scoop posted. What really stood out for me is the fact that the sellers who really do have legitimate concerns felt the need to post in a private forum those concerns. They obviously felt they couldn't post on the forum at WP. Then to find a private group discussion where they felt safe to express themselves, they were "outed" on the WP forum (public). No wonder scoop and the others are so upset with Brian.

That said I want to say that rosebud's last post in my opinion came from the heart. I know that some folks have criticized her for using a sock puppet ID, etc... which may be due to the fact that she felt we were a threat to her and would somehow attack her business. Look at all the people on ebay forums who use posting id's in order to avoid business interference. Now I don't believe for a minute anyone here would ever do that to bud or anyone else. She obviously did believe it, so Bud if you are reading this just know that no one here wishes you or any other WP seller ill will or harm.

She took the higher ground and apologized if she offended anyone. She is standing up for her friends. When people perceive they are being attacked they will be defensive. They came to each others aid.
We here at TT also stand up for each other too, both here and anywhere else. That's what friends do.

I don't blindy agree or believe everything I am told either. You have to use discretion, because it is so easy to want to belong to a group that you silence your voice and opinion. That is where the perception of the "collective" or cultish behavior references come from. In other words without obvious distinction or voices of dissent being heard on the WP forum, it appears as if you are all the same, and this shuts people up who do have a different opinion, but will not share it. It is a clique, you either agree with us and we like you, or you will be treated as an outcast.

I know that the sellers have asked for a nice polite courteous forum on WP, but what you have is a sterilized forum where the only distinction that can be made about the sellers is by your siggie.  Without debate and open discussion you are never challenged to have an independent thought, opinion, or idea. The greatest contribution to any group is to always have a devil's advocate voice because they provide the voice that challenges us to really ask the tough questions. Without that all you have is a room full of people all nodding there heads in unison.


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VERY well said Chiquita!!! 
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[Sweet Girl 70]

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powerseller:  You talk about making people feel bad well there is a prime example of that at Wagglepop, his name is Ray.  Who shall we get rid of today? how many posts can I delete today? Who can I make feel bad by telling them they are not doing enough to bring more traffic to WP? and the list goes on and on.  This person running Wagglepop ship has absolutely no respect for not even 1 of the sellers there.  You post a question he comes back and humiliates you into thinking you posted something you shouldn't have even asked.  No business questions were or ever will be answered.  Why are there all these groups created, why are sellers posting on other boards, well that's easy isn't it??  It's because of the censorship on the boards.  I have never seen such a ridiculous policy in my life where a seller that is trying to improve their business, that is working their butt off to get more sales, can't even ask a simple business question with the post being deleted.  I'm not talking about someone trying to cause trouble of being rude, I'm talking about just asking a question they have about their business.  It is absolute craziness, which has now got to the point where posters have absolutely no idea why their post was deleted, so they post again asking why their post was deleted, and they never get an answer to that question either.  Is that not the main reason for these boards and forums so people can ask questions and get answers where everyone works together to help each other out.  You know perfectly well no other forum is fun the way the WP forum is run.  Sellers have even commented on why the boards are so quiet, well why do you think.  What's the sense of posting a question because it's going to get deleted, so a lot of them have now said they just aren't even going to bother any more, its not worth the humiliation.  Some of you are walking around and just accepting this ridiculous policy and think nothing of it but there are a hell of a lot of people really upset about it I have talked to them and know.  I hope one day soon these cheerleaders that are walking around in the dark will soon see the light before it's too late.  Nobody deserves to be treated how the poppers are being treated but until they sit down and seriously think about these few things and realize that this has gone far enough, then I guess you will still be there.  There are lots of other venues to sell at where you are treated like a customer and shown respect as a person.  I don't really care whether you agree with anything I have said or not but it just makes me so furious what is going on at WP, nobody needs to conduct business in that kind of an atmosphere.  Good luck to you with your sales.


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[Sweet Girl 70]

[quote author=Designers Bargains link=topic=3775.msg43947#msg43947 date=1171657881]
HEY SELLERS!!

Does the idea of building up your feedback score to boundless limits with nothing but glowing, impressive, positive feedback without doing any work appeal to you?

NO packing and mailing hassles!

NO wasting time creating and sending those pesky invoices!

NO worries of returns, non-paying bidders, or feedback extortion!

NO more time and money wasted to replenish inventory! Yes, you can sell the same crocheted doilie over and over and over!

NO more paying PayPal commissions!

Then, why not open SEVERAL WP stores under a few different user ID's? Just sell everything to yourself and give yourself feedback. Unlike eBay, where feedback scores are reflective of UNIQUE trading partners, every "sale" is eligible for feedback on WP, regardless of how many items are transacted with the same trading partner. Pretty hard NOT to consider yourself the best buyer as well as the best seller on WP -- and the transactions are easy and trouble free. 

The store fees are advertising write-offs and the WP commissions are write-offs, as well.

Meanwhile, you can sell yourself a hundred items and get a gold bunny-bullet star for being "seller of the month" and be highlighted in the WP newsletter. And, you can brag about all the sales you've had on all the e-commerce forums, cheering your ass off and stirring up the Koolaid. 



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