Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse? You do not have permission to vote in this poll. |
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Paid Feebay Employees With An Agenda | 1 | 1.64% | |
Infiltrators | 0 | 0% | |
Trolls | 0 | 0% | |
Naysayers | 1 | 1.64% | |
Morally Bankrupt Miscreants | 3 | 4.92% | |
Upstream Providers | 0 | 0% | |
Jealous Types | 1 | 1.64% | |
Deadbeats | 1 | 1.64% | |
Ray Romeo | 40 | 65.57% | |
Ray Romeo\'s Alter Ego KaRay | 10 | 16.39% | |
Wagglepop CEO Ray Romeo Listing Items On eBay In His eBay Store Instead Of Listing On His Own Site | 4 | 6.56% | |
Total | 61 vote(s) | 100% |
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Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
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03-13-2008, 10:45 PM,
Post: #17091
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Quote:with over $50,000 in delinquent accounts in collection. $50,000/$9.95=5,000 sellers turned over for collection?
OAI Moron Hall of Fame
<i>sell-thru is an irrelevant and illogical consideration.</i> -KaRay, owner of WP giving selling advice, 2006 <i>the site was 'NOT' hacked but the little script that had recipes on had the link altered</i> -Plunderhere Owner Mark Taylor after his site was hacked by a Chinese hacker gang, 2008 Some people have it like that, others dont. I do. -Probidscripts owner Spencer Osama Binweb Laden Ray bragging about his ability to scam the OAI without feeling any guilt, 2008. How does an auction site get buyers? -question asked at PSU by owner of auction site BidBeaver.ca, 2008 How do I get sales? -question asked at PSU by online store owner, 2009. I was told by my Tech. Support that my site dont really need SSL.. his servers are well protected and that info your providing to join aint really top secret information -owner of auction site TheTraderOutlet.com discussig his site's lack of basic security, 2009 |
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03-13-2008, 10:48 PM,
Post: #17092
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
From WP's #1 Cheerleader:
Quote:To the owner of Wagglepop (if you're reading this), I want you to know on a personal level that I deeply and sincerely appreciate every dollar, every hour of time, and every piece of your heart that you have invested to create Wagglepop for us and to keep it going as strong as possible given the circumstances. |
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03-13-2008, 11:33 PM,
Post: #17093
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
OMG!
Quote:I have been issued a direct deadline within an approximate six month timeframe to achieve new ownership participation goals. Should those goals not be achieved, we must then consider either adjusting participatory costs or realigning site services and structures to match participation. Translation: "Management" is pulling the plug if WP is not solvent in 6 months. If I were a Pooper I'd be heading for the hills with that announcement. It would be like trying to stay afloat on a melting iceberg with advanced global warming. And what's all this business of a "specialty site." There's not a damn thing "special" about WP, apart from the fact that it has nothing to offer buyers and sellers have left in droves because it is owned by a boinktard. My guess is it will be just as "special" in that regard 6 months from now as it is today. Quote:Wagglepop exists for one reason and one reason only - to help online buyers and sellers make a better experience built on fairness and trust That's the joke of the century. If, in fact, WP exists for that reason, then it has failed MISERABLY in just about every way possible. Ask the hundreds of buyers and sellers who left to the tune of 15 to 1 how much they trust WP. Oh, wait, that's one more thing that's "special" about WP: the abysmal attrition rate of membership. Quote:Revenue from just 280 "or so" has put a strain on the financial structures that built and support Wagglepop and severely limited not only our operational needs but more importantly our ability to market and advertise Wagglepop for growth to the point of paralysis.Oh, give me a break! There was no marketing or advertising when the store count was near 1,000 with many showcase and feature stores, so don't use the piss-poor "participation" levels now as an excuse. Quote:The more listings, the more buyers. The more buyers, the more sales - which in turn attracts more sellers, and the marketplace dynamic begins to grow and feed off the activity. As Sneaky said, if this were true, the floor mat guy, with his 19,200+ listings should be selling like crazy. Yet, after 10 months -- NADA. Quote:Today, we have about 280 Stores and 100,000 listings, with many of the "30-60-90" day crowd from the last eBay fee hike inspired influx dwindling daily. Oh, plllleeeease again! If you're a career seller who hasn't had a a single sale after being on a site for 3 months with tons of listings -- one that charges monthly "participation" dues -- that should be enough proof that something is wrong with that picture and you're losing money. What are you supposed to do? Wait for Godot? If that isn't enough proof, then there's something wrong with YOUR business picture. And the comment about the "fee hike inspired influx" is proof positive that Raytard relies largely on eBay's policy changes as a source of new recruits rather than anything at all that might be attractive about the site itself to entice sellers to go there. I'll bet he was the happiest guy in Poopville when eBay came out with its announcements. It's obvious he was expecting to capture a much larger group of disgrunted, desperate eBay sellers who were looking for any port in a storm. And now that the storm has subsided, he's in big trouble, as another one is probably not due for at least another year. I predict WP2 will be a non-entity by September 2008, if not sooner. |
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03-14-2008, 03:02 AM,
Post: #17094
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Are there bidding wars here on WP?
Had to run for the peepee no no's :cinqo1: Bidding wars I was over at that site, appscout.com and I saw the head cheerleaders there tooting the WP horn. I can almost smell a fee raise coming over there on WP, for their small *specialty* site. Specializing in Floormats? Boinktard will either raise the fees and FVF or he will close it down. I think he will raise fees across the board. Tomorrow's Pizza lunch will be very interesting. I'm bringing popcorn and beer. :cinqo2: |
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03-14-2008, 03:14 AM,
Post: #17095
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
AndRay whines about future deadbeats
Quote:There will be no "throwing in of the towel" under any participation scenario. The faithful are rallying around their leader and planning a spam assault on eBay sellers popper Wrote:I agree that many new seller and buyers will be slinking off Ebay over the next few months... lucky for us that should happen before this 6 month grace period. Public service message You may forward unsolicited commercial e-mail (spam) to the FTC spam@uce.gov
OAI Moron Hall of Fame
<i>sell-thru is an irrelevant and illogical consideration.</i> -KaRay, owner of WP giving selling advice, 2006 <i>the site was 'NOT' hacked but the little script that had recipes on had the link altered</i> -Plunderhere Owner Mark Taylor after his site was hacked by a Chinese hacker gang, 2008 Some people have it like that, others dont. I do. -Probidscripts owner Spencer Osama Binweb Laden Ray bragging about his ability to scam the OAI without feeling any guilt, 2008. How does an auction site get buyers? -question asked at PSU by owner of auction site BidBeaver.ca, 2008 How do I get sales? -question asked at PSU by online store owner, 2009. I was told by my Tech. Support that my site dont really need SSL.. his servers are well protected and that info your providing to join aint really top secret information -owner of auction site TheTraderOutlet.com discussig his site's lack of basic security, 2009 |
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03-14-2008, 07:50 AM,
Post: #17096
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
wagglepop opened May 2006 Wrote:90% of sellers close accounts or are suspended for non-payment ecrater opened September 2004 Wrote:more than 50,000 stores have been registered since it opened and nearly 34,000 are still openhttp://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abu/y208...bu0210/s03 ecrater: 68% still open after 3 1/2 years WP: 10% still open after 1 3/4 years. wagglepop andrew Wrote:I cannot in good conscience fault ownership 68% retention rate vs 10%. |
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03-14-2008, 10:47 AM,
Post: #17097
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Quote:Visit some stores on the E, check out their ratings, feedback, etc and send them an email with an invitation to try Wagglepop. It may just gain us some more dedicated sellers (and buyers too!) ... And why not offer then a copy of the "Watchtower" while you're at it? If this isn't evangelical cult tactics, tell me what is! |
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03-14-2008, 01:56 PM,
(This post was last modified: 03-14-2008, 02:00 PM by bargainbloodhound.)
Post: #17098
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Quote:Today, we have about 280 Stores and 100,000 listings You should alert the engineering team that your software's counter is malfunctioning...85,216 http://www.wagglepop.com/perl/auction/catlisting arcasm1: Quote:Wagglepop exists for one reason and one reason only - to help online ...sellers That explains why you removed several RScript features from your site's templates that were designed to promote sellers and their stores and instead replaced them with ripoff less effective programs like AdSmart and Flagship Banner Advertising that were implemented solely to fill your pocket. WP removed 'Featured Seller', 'Hot Items' and 'In The Spotlight' from its category pages before launching (examples here: http://www.plunderhere.com/auction/cgi-b...cmd=browse&categoryID=197) Also removed were Featured Auction Items, Featured Fixed Price Items and the Store Search Box from its home page (examples here: http://www.plunderhere.com/auction/cgi-bin/Auction) Quote:Public service message You can also forward spam complaints to abuse@ezzi.net since WP management was participating on that thread and didn't raise any objections to the plans to spamvertise Wagglepop.
"Well, Jay was so giddy that someone named Jay was involved with this site we posted our first non-eBay listing in 3 years here at Lunarbid (we tried two items at Yahoo once upon a time, they bombed)" -Marie posting in a LunarBid thread at OTWA in 2005 wins the award for 'most moronic reason ever given for choosing a venue"
"thanks twat u must have nothing better 2 do. do u talk to all your members like that. will not be recomending your site. best way to put it is TULIPTOOLS.COM IS REALLY SHIT. DONT JOIN." -pubescent owner of rinky dink off2auction.com in 2011 |
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03-14-2008, 04:01 PM,
Post: #17099
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
popper Wrote:Anyone else tried to e-mail their client base & gotten NASTY e-mails from the E?. I e-mailed over 1000 customers, just that I may ALSO be at Wp.com & received an e-mail that I was NOt in the E-bay perameters of discussion...or something like that & could be suspended! Refresher course for the clueless: if those 1000 customers didn't opt-in to receive marketing messages from you (i.e. I moved to Boinktard Auctions, come see my items/new store) then your emails to them were SPAM and they had a right to complain to eBay. When someone buys from you you can send them emails related to their order (shipping notices, invoices, answers to their questions, etc) but you don't have the right to send them non-order related marketing emails unless they opted-in to receiving those types of messages from you...DUH! |
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03-14-2008, 04:12 PM,
Post: #17100
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Negativity Alert! PS is probably hitting the report button as I C&P!
popper Wrote:In an effort to get off the othEr site, I have been searching other sites looking for a place to sell. I know many others have been doing the same thing, but as of yet, no site has gotten to a point where they're anywhere close to a rival of ebay. Wagglepop is definitely one of my favorites. But to me it seems more like a nice little town with lots of neat shops. I know that's not what it was set up as, but maybe that's what it should be promoted as. The fact that you have to pay $10 for the month is going to turn off people that only want to list an item or two. But is great for people who have lots of inventory and need a store. So why not promote the store side of it? AndRay Wrote:"Maybe I'm wrong but I get the sense that the success or failure of WP is all on US the sellers."
OAI Moron Hall of Fame
<i>sell-thru is an irrelevant and illogical consideration.</i> -KaRay, owner of WP giving selling advice, 2006 <i>the site was 'NOT' hacked but the little script that had recipes on had the link altered</i> -Plunderhere Owner Mark Taylor after his site was hacked by a Chinese hacker gang, 2008 Some people have it like that, others dont. I do. -Probidscripts owner Spencer Osama Binweb Laden Ray bragging about his ability to scam the OAI without feeling any guilt, 2008. How does an auction site get buyers? -question asked at PSU by owner of auction site BidBeaver.ca, 2008 How do I get sales? -question asked at PSU by online store owner, 2009. I was told by my Tech. Support that my site dont really need SSL.. his servers are well protected and that info your providing to join aint really top secret information -owner of auction site TheTraderOutlet.com discussig his site's lack of basic security, 2009 |
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