Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

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[quote author=Nat link=topic=3775.msg29160#msg29160 date=1161878789]

The vast majority of closed accounts had no current inventory, and the ones that did typically had just one or two items.

I can't believe that - he actually closed people's accounts for having only one or two items?  That is just amazing.  That incredibly stupid. I can't believe that.

Reading several posts in this thread the comments he/Karen posts on WP and the comments his faithful cheerleaders make it reminds me of one thing - it's like a cult.  A cult has some idiot controlling his followers with stupid ideas and no matter what the cult leader says his followers praise him on a high pedestal following him every step of the way kissing his feet and the ground he walks on along the way.  That is what WP and Ray/Karen has there - cult.

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Nat, that's exactly what Alskling pointed out a few pages back, the cultish behavior at WP. Ray will tolerate nothing less. His track record shows that he will destroy his own business, and every business that's connected to his, without warning, consideration or remorse. Basing a business on the WP platform is akin to going into business with a sociopath.

[chiquita]

The vast majority of closed accounts had no current inventory, and the ones that did typically had just one or two items. Total active items sitewide receded less than 400 in total, reflecting the "non-participatory" nature of the accounts as a whole.

I love irony, don't you love irony?  Let me see Ray has an Ebay store with 0 items, hmmmm. Do you think Ebay will close his store?
He won't close stores on WP with 0 or little inventory, unless they are delinquent. He certainly isn't generating any serious revenue from FVF.

Yup he is "whizzing" in the wind. 

[maggie777]

The vast majority of closed accounts had no current inventory, and the ones that did typically had just one or two items. Total active items sitewide receded less than 400 in total, reflecting the "non-participatory" nature of the accounts as a whole.

What if they had no inventory because they were buyers first, sellers second?  Are buyers considered non-participatory to Wagglepop because they don't pay fees?

[stardust]

Seller accounts which have gone into delinquency status (especially those sellers with no inventory that appear abandoned) and sellers who are unresponsive to direct emails from staff regarding their accounts are in the process of account termination.

The accounts that have already been terminated during this process to this point have been referred for collection.

The vast majority of closed accounts had no current inventory, and the ones that did typically had just one or two items. Total active items sitewide receded less than 400 in total, reflecting the "non-participatory" nature of the accounts as a whole.

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it appears he's only closing *delinquent* accounts -- and those had 0 to only a few items in them.

[cash1381]

Welcome to The Revolution :raypoop:

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
-George Orwell

Just my lowly opinion; per Mr. Orwell, there are no revolutinary acts being done on WP.

[BellisimaJ.]

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it appears he's only closing *delinquent* accounts -- and those had 0 to only a few items in them.

Same here. So what's all the fuss?

[cranky_hippie]

[quote author=BellisimaJ. link=topic=3775.msg29173#msg29173 date=1161886112]

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it appears he's only closing *delinquent* accounts -- and those had 0 to only a few items in them.

Same here. So what's all the fuss?
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I guess, in my mind anyway, it's because he is making such a big deal about it and making it all so public with talk of tracking software; only the BEST will survive; no second chances; blah, blah, blah; etc. 

[xppman]

It's all in HOPE peeps will pony up the $$$. Scare Tactic.. ;D
Bet he has no collection agent that will buy what a few hundred dollars off dead beats like me?

OK I want someone to call me for my .30 cents.
I'll politly tell them.  :nbiteme:

[cash1381]

Awhile back when members were asking how to close their stores. Ray/Karen's response was to contact them and leave quietly without making a big deal of it.
Now they are canning deliquent stores and MAKING A BIG DEAL of it.
They are telling members what is a BIG DEAL and what is not....
Another control issue.

[regic]

The vast majority of sales are to newly registered buyers (somewhere in the range of 85-90% typically of the overall), generally OneBid Instant Purchase sales and fed from search engines or shopping comparison sites.

For the "normal" online buyer, leaving feedback is a secondary or unfamiliar notion, and for that reason your perception of how the feedback relates to overall sales, as noted above, is slightly skewed statistically

It's been 5 days since the last post was made on WP's bidding/buying board.  The 5 people who posted on that thread all have stores.

That quote is from this thread: http://www.wagglepop.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=3972

The seller's response to 'Karen':

That still does not make any since. Having completed auctions viewable like Ebay would ease alot of minds this is one of the biggest gripes current Ebay sellers have about this and most other sites. Many buyers do not buy online on sites where they cannot check out more than just feedback. I want to see if there might be a history of shill bidding.

My problem is that there is one week that your sales reports shows about 1500 total sales, but if you look at the three sellers I was looking at 600 of those sales are back and forth between them. This does not look good at all.

The overall perception of WP outside of Ebay is negative do a search on any search engine and all you find are the articles relating to the original launch that failed miserably. What has WP done to fix this overall perception? The feedback patterns I have seen is adding more negative. I have seen nothing where WP is trying to get over that negative.

I understand that there is a need for sellers to be set up here first, but allowing them to falsely build up their feedback is wrong and is no better than shill bidding or anything. Many buyers like to research things like this and are not impulse
buyers like you say.