Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

[BellisimaJ.]

No not TR (toyranch) another person. Love the part about taking anger management.

It perfectly suits Ray!! Ray was MUCH worse on the ebay boards!!

[cranky_hippie]

That last stuff posted must have been when the dope came back to OTWA as RayTwo. I think there was a RayThree ID, too. He kept getting POed and UNregistering at OTWA but he would lurk, as the thread went on without him, and he couldn't keep his mouth shut so he would sign up again. None of his attempts to return were successful - no fault of the OTWAns. He gets the blame for that, too.

As for the FAS stuff, he went on a binge of deleting posts and creatively editing others so things would not be all there even if archives did exist.

[chiquita]

[quote author=cranky_hippie link=topic=3775.msg30732#msg30732 date=1162587537]
That last stuff posted must have been when the dope came back to OTWA as RayTwo. I think there was a RayThree ID, too. He kept getting POed and UNregistering at OTWA but he would lurk, as the thread went on without him, and he couldn't keep his mouth shut so he would sign up again. None of his attempts to return were successful - no fault of the OTWAns. He gets the blame for that, too.

As for the FAS stuff, he went on a binge of deleting posts and creatively editing others so things would not be all there even if archives did exist.



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You are right on Cranky, he registered with romeo361, than romeo362. The above posts were under his second id.

[chiquita]

Here is a great reply to Ray deleting the FAS threads.

I would personally like to see the FAS threads restored. Deleting them was not a cool thing to do. Those threads included other people's thoughts and opinions. IMHO it was irresponsible to delete them without approval from each author. Even if those threads were authored by one person only, they were germane to the new site start-up and should be available as part of its history.

[chiquita]

TR responding to Ray regarding a question he asked Ray back in the thread "what do you have to offer that makes your site special"

You aren't offering anything to bring buyers or sellers to your site. Oh, you might get 10,000 or 20,000 listings up and going, if you are doing everything right, and if you want to pad the stats with recipie auctions and dollar store junk for $5 each in dutch auctions with 30,000 units available and then count every unit of a dutch auction as an auction, then hey, you'll be like some others out there and post huge stats of half a million or a million auctions going....

What have you got to offer? I just don't see anything you have that is any better than, or even necessarily as good as, what 100 others are offering.

One came along with a big ad budget, said they were going to spend a million dollars over the course of a year, and got everyone excited. But you know, in 1999, Amazon introduced it's auction site. Do you know how much they spent advertising it? $66million over the course of one Quarter. That was probably almost enough to BUY eBay at the time. And they didn't even sniff success, and they had a more established brand. Yahoo rolled auctions with a multi-million dollar ad budget, and they had by far the most hits of ANY site on the web... but their auctions never managed to sniff eBay. In 2000, many of us eBay sellers felt that time was ripe to diversify or die... and we tried. We increased Yahoo's listings by over 800,000, and other sites by another hundred thousand (the goal was a million, and we came pretty close). Then it fell back to previous levels.

We've seen them come and go. Many other people, just like you, determined, confident... and it never works. Lots of them had more ideas or more to offer than you have presented. Do you have some big idea you are saving for later, that you don't want to unveil? Or is this it? Is this all you've got???

;D

[BellisimaJ.]

Do you have some big idea you are saving for later, that you don't want to unveil? Or is this it? Is this all you've got???

That sounds like TR!

[cranky_hippie]

Do you have some big idea you are saving for later, that you don't want to unveil? Or is this it? Is this all you've got???

That was it, too. That's all he had (except for the so-called cereal box promotion which never happened) and that's exactly what he has this time, too.

A big fat nothing special - nothing different.

[BellisimaJ.]

A big fat nothing special - nothing different.

[amy]

[quote author=cash1381 link=topic=3775.msg30704#msg30704 date=1162583274]
From the boards.

made a typo when typing 'wagglepop' into my browser. I put 'wagglepoop' by mistake. I was really surprised to see a picture of sh*t come up, along with 'www.wagglepoop.com' coming soon.

I hope someone's not building that to cut up wagglepop. Has anyone heard anything about this? 

Response from another member:

Or is a potential spoof site? I can see some poeple getting an email from there and a link to a wagglepop look a like login page.

Staff may want to know about it since a best its a domain infringement. You may want to clear your cookies and history so you don't try logining in there if you type in the web address.

This will get better!

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If the STUPID Popper would do a Google search she would see that .POOP was created in early 2005 during WP1.  If the STUPID Popper would look at the WHOIS records she would see that unlike Ray's .POP which hides its ownership on its domain records, the protest/parody (not spoof) .POOP domain owner doesn't hide their ownership.

As far as "domain infringement", the STUPID Popper needs to brush up on both domain and trademark law.

[quote author=bargainbloodhound link=topic=5129.msg28883#msg28883 date=1161724127]
BTW, Ray,  even though you applied for a trademark for the name wagglepop, you can't do wombat poo poo about it being used as part of the domain name in rho's site because her site is a noncommercial protest site so the use of wagglepop is not a trademark violation under the UDRP (Uniform Domain Name Dispute Policy) and WIPO (World Intellectual Property Organization) would decide in Rho's favor if any action was taken by Wagglepop.

For Ray's benefit:

If the domain name owner's site is being used to criticize, protest or parody the trademarked entity or its owner's products and/or services, the panel will probably find that the domain name owner has a legitimate interest in the domain name. This will probably be true, even if the domain name is, for all practical purposes, the same exact thing as the trademarked word.

Also for Ray's benefit 
FAQ about Protest, Parody and Criticism Sites
http://www.chillingeffects.org/protest/faq.cgi#QID86
Domain name legal issues
http://community.tuliptools.com/index.ph...,79.0.html
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[BellisimaJ.]

Go Amy!!