Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse?

BellisimaJ. · 11-09-2006, 01:25 PM,

Askling Wrote:For all I know (or anybody else for that matter), Ray/Karen could be plugging in traffic figure numbers and calling them sales, or just making up something.

JMO, but that is certainly my thinking. It just doesn't make sense. :blinkie:

Quote: And did he not say here, that if he did, in fact, insinuate I was a liar and a cheat that he would sincerely apologize? Well, S.B., we're all still waiting.

Ha, that one's easy, Askling. He is a :chicken3: Boinktard

PS// TT, I love the smileys. Occasion18

I can't thank you enough for the smileys!! Happy001

Alskling · 11-09-2006, 01:32 PM,

Bell -- I revised my previous message. Even if the figures ARE real, they still suck.

BellisimaJ. · 11-09-2006, 01:37 PM,

[quote author=Alskling link=topic=3775.msg31490#msg31490 date=1163079176]
Bell -- I revised my previous message. Even if the figures ARE real, they still suck.
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Yeah, they sure do, Askling!! Happy001

I don't think they are real though. Tongue2

O~Romeo~U~Suck · 11-09-2006, 04:19 PM,

Holy crap! I get sick for a few days and miss all THIS? Smileyyellowbang

I thought I had recovered from this flu until I read the Vulgar BS. Then it was back to Puke

It's digusting to me to see a supposed grown man beg and grovel. What a phony vulgar is. And such arrogance! I'd love to put on that size 11AAA shoe and squash him like the little irritating bug that he is.
I did like seeing this though...

Quote:What I care about are sales, integrity, reliability, potential growth, viability, professionalism--and whether or not the business founder is a scumbag, cheat, liar, and crook (and whether or not those personality disorders endanger my finances, business, or sales).

Alskling · 11-09-2006, 04:53 PM,

I agree ORUS. I thought Then's comments were quite appropriate. Regardless of the character (or lack thereof) of the business owner(s), the complete lack of professionalism, integrity, business acumen/positive track record, along with the absence of rational, transparent, achieveable, easily-understood business plan based on sound business sense and sensibilities that really gave me the greatest pause. My biggest mistake was in trying to legitimize WP as a business, when it isn't (although it professes that it is, which is a lie), and therefore doesn't behave like one. In fact, it is a cult-based pyramid scheme, where the only ones who reap benefits are the ones at the top. It's this "wolf in sheep's clothing" part about WP (or any other cult, for that matter) that really makes my eyeballs pop out.

thentavius · 11-09-2006, 06:41 PM,

When I asked him if he had been around for WP1, his response was essentially "um, no..."

He never responded to my post offering him an encyclopedia of knowledge about the first "explosion" over at OTWA--the one with delightful quips from Ray himself embedded.

Maybe he's still reading the long thread and seeing the implosion first hand. Heh.

Quote:Ray has given the impression he has a full staff, programmers etc.

Lies, again. Just like WP1. This is why we have this thread--so that history won't repeat itself (or at least so it will be documented for those with business curiosity).

His "staff" is himself, possibly his brother or wife, and the tech support customer service people for his boxed software.

cranky_hippie · 11-09-2006, 06:59 PM,

Quote:His "staff" is himself, possibly his brother or wife, and the tech support customer service people for his boxed software.

Let's not forget his cat. I think Karen is the cat. Happy001

stardust · 11-09-2006, 07:00 PM,

[quote author=cranky_hippie link=topic=3775.msg31495#msg31495 date=1163098755]

Quote:His "staff" is himself, possibly his brother or wife, and the tech support customer service people for his boxed software.

Let's not forget his cat. I think Karen is the cat. Happy001

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> Sad

I give cats waaaaaaaay more respect than that, cranky....

chiquita · 11-09-2006, 07:17 PM,

[quote author=thentavius link=topic=3775.msg31494#msg31494 date=1163097670]
When I asked him if he had been around for WP1, his response was essentially "um, no..."

He never responded to my post offering him an encyclopedia of knowledge about the first "explosion" over at OTWA--the one with delightful quips from Ray himself embedded.

Maybe he's still reading the long thread and seeing the implosion first hand. Heh.

Quote:Ray has given the impression he has a full staff, programmers etc.

Lies, again. Just like WP1. This is why we have this thread--so that history won't repeat itself (or at least so it will be documented for those with business curiosity).

His "staff" is himself, possibly his brother or wife, and the tech support customer service people for his boxed software.
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You are right on and to the point which is why I posed the question of Ray's actual expenses and necessary staff to run WP. That way at least the truth is here on this thread for all the poppers who I know are lurking here.

Even the thread at OTWA surprised everyone because it got so large. That is why this thread has become large as well. I think of it like a public information warning to the unsuspecting seller community.

I doubt SB read the OTWA thread, the truth hurts too much. Better to live in the land of kumbaya denial, than acknowledge you have bought a ticket on the Titanic.

Boinktard

cranky_hippie · 11-09-2006, 07:57 PM,

[quote author=stardust link=topic=3775.msg31497#msg31497 date=1163098839]
[quote author=cranky_hippie link=topic=3775.msg31495#msg31495 date=1163098755]

Quote:His "staff" is himself, possibly his brother or wife, and the tech support customer service people for his boxed software.

Let's not forget his cat. I think Karen is the cat. Happy001

[/quote]

> Sad

I give cats waaaaaaaay more respect than that, cranky....

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Aw, Star, I was only kidding. I KNOW my cat is smarter than Karen. Laughing7