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Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

  
Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse?
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Paid Feebay Employees With An Agenda
1.64%
1 1.64%
Infiltrators
0%
0 0%
Trolls
0%
0 0%
Naysayers
1.64%
1 1.64%
Morally Bankrupt Miscreants
4.92%
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Upstream Providers
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Jealous Types
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1 1.64%
Deadbeats
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Ray Romeo
65.57%
40 65.57%
Ray Romeo\'s Alter Ego KaRay
16.39%
10 16.39%
Wagglepop CEO Ray Romeo Listing Items On eBay In His eBay Store Instead Of Listing On His Own Site
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4 6.56%
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05-25-2006, 01:26 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-14-2006, 10:35 PM by vitalfinds.)
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RE: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
ABEBooks calls sellers to verify info.  (They require CCs, too, but I can certainly understand why folks would be hesitant to turn over that info to Ray, again.)

We aren't talking about 1000s of sellers here.  Certainly Karen could take a few minutes from her day to do this or something similar?

Trust but verify.  It's a tried and true concept. Smile
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[quote author=vitalfinds link=topic=3775.msg14920#msg14920 date=1148520377]

What are the options for verifying sellers?  I think he knows that he wouldn't get any credit card numbers given to him this time. 
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Here's Overstock's Trusted Merchant Program's verification:

bargainbloodhound Wrote:Overstock's Trusted Merchant Program
business license
working email address
credit card on file
credit report checked
disclose annual business revenues
disclose total debts and assets
copy of photo ID (driver's license or passport)
BuySafe membership

and minimum of $1000 combined monthly sales

CQOut and QXL verification of sellers:

bargainbloodhound Wrote:The best verification (as in most likely to reduce fraud) I've seen is on the UK sites QXL and CQOut.  Both sites require CC verification but they also require the following before you can list your first item:

QXL- they snail mail you a verification code (p.o. boxes are not acceptable) and you have to wait to sell until you receive it in the mail and input it on their web site (QXL's system also automatically permanently suspends any user whose feedback hits -1 ).

CQOut- their seller program is probably the most stringent.  You need to snail mail them an actual utility bill (no copies allowed) along with a few other things

uBid:  business license, trade references, FEIN or SSN, credit check
Bidz-about the same as uBid

The data center in LA where we have half of our servers co-located even requires photocopies of both the credit card you pay with and your driver's license/passport.

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05-25-2006, 02:27 AM, (This post was last modified: 10-14-2006, 10:35 PM by vitalfinds.)
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05-25-2006, 03:41 AM, (This post was last modified: 05-25-2006, 03:45 AM by amy.)
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[quote author=vitalfinds link=topic=3775.msg14925#msg14925 date=1148524061]
So where do the sellers of used jeans fit into this scenerio?
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QXL and CQOut


Auction site owners fit into the verification puzzle by providing their ownership and contact info on their domain WHOIS records  Smile http://community.tuliptools.com/index.ph...2.new.html
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RE: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

QXL- they snail mail you a verification code (p.o. boxes are not acceptable) and you have to wait to sell until you receive it in the mail and input it on their web site (QXL's system also automatically permanently suspends any user whose feedback hits -1 ).

CQOut- their seller program is probably the most stringent.  You need to snail mail them an actual utility bill (no copies allowed) along with a few other things


I just really don't think that either of these is asking for much, even for an occasional, my kids outgrew their used jeans type sellers. 

Can you imagine the amount of fraud that eBay could cut out by requiring one of these simple steps? 
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Quote: a 100% trust-based community. All we require at sign-up and as a condition of the User Agreement is the word of the registrant that the information used to register is current, true, and correct. 

It's just amazing that a grown man can put that out into the world arena.  That's stuff for the boy scouts and church groups.  Unfortunately, it's pitifully laughable.

Looks like the stores count at 64/65 is stalled....
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Quote:a 100% trust-based community. All we require at sign-up and as a condition of the User Agreement is the word of the registrant that the information used to register is current, true, and correct.

Welcome to all of our new users from Nigeria!
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05-25-2006, 06:16 PM, (This post was last modified: 10-14-2006, 10:36 PM by vitalfinds.)
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RE: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Wow. The login page really DOES look EXACTLY like eBay. Not even altered. Just plunked down with the words "eBay" changed to "Wagglepop." When I tried to view a thread over there that one of you linked to, I couldn't believe that he'd copied and pasted it. He must have. It's EXACTLY the same.

Amazing.
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