Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse?

racedream · 12-01-2006, 01:15 AM,

AWESOME!!

let the truth be told · 12-01-2006, 01:27 AM,

Platzki,

this buds for you

Occasion14

let the truth be told
u1it4less - "it's all in the name..."
x-pop nation

Platzki · 12-01-2006, 01:33 AM,

And finally...

Ray, Ray... what can I say?
You SUCK!

Oops... did I type that out loud?? Happy001

stardust · 12-01-2006, 01:42 AM,

Platzki.

...and we have a winner !! ;D ;D ;D

stardust · 12-01-2006, 01:44 AM,

[quote author=racedream link=topic=3775.msg34459#msg34459 date=1164931762]
Platzki, Happy001

And as I read that, I'm having a hot flash 2funny

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They're not hot flashes. They're power surges!

Platzki · 12-01-2006, 01:46 AM,

[quote author=stardust link=topic=3775.msg34472#msg34472 date=1164937485]
[quote author=racedream link=topic=3775.msg34459#msg34459 date=1164931762]
Platzki, Happy001

And as I read that, I'm having a hot flash 2funny

[/quote]

They're not hot flashes. They're power surges!
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Happy001

LOVE THAT!!!

racedream · 12-01-2006, 02:03 AM,

I'm glad I finished my drink before I read that! Happy001

That was great! I'm gonna have to remember that one. I better write it down, or I'll forget it. My memory sure isn't as good as it once was Wink

Sweet Girl 70 · 12-01-2006, 02:14 AM,

Tis time for this sweet girl to get a real life
Even though I enjoy the thought of giving Raybil a knife

Was fun laughing with all of you here
I am off to drink another beer

Don't stop the mission at hand
Help get those poppers heads out of the sand

I bid you adieu, adios and all that
Cause if I sit here much longer I will grow more fat

Bye everyone, thanks for the laughs!! :'(

racedream · 12-01-2006, 02:33 AM,

:'(

let the truth be told · 12-01-2006, 02:50 AM,

WAGGLEFACT OF THE DAY

RAY'S SCAM

Everyone who reads this thread by now has heard about wp1 & wp2 and if you haven't please review this TT thread and you will understand.

FACT: WP1 failed due to a poor business plan (not well thought out). WP2 will suffer the same fate because the goals from WP1 & WP2 are the same. The only differance is that ray put a little more thought into his plan this time. Why are the goals the same, well lets just say his plan is nothing more than a scam and Ray is a master scam artist.

Because ray is a seller he in no way can see things from a buyers standpoint so he is selling you his site for $9.95 a month to start. That is why the site looks like it does. You are seeing Ray's listing. So it does not matter if you are a seller you are still the buyer you are buying his scam.

Everyone, correction all smart business people have asked why the site isn't set up to bring in the buyers. Well fact is it is and will not change much from what you see now and if it does it will still be to promote sellers to pay his $9.95 per month.

Ever wonder or see how when someone says they are going to close there store that before that happens the store count will rise? It happens all the time, I seen it today and so did alot of other people. Ray has all power with his site remember that! Because he has all power he has created ghost stores and puts them up whenever he wants. Most of all the ghost stores are there to create an illusion and make the site seem viable to new sellers. The site goals that are stated are meaningless. The store count goes up when Ray choses and will only go down very little from where it is now.

Think about it and check for yourself. Would any smart business person pay $9.95 or more to keep less than 50 items in a site that has no traffic. That is $.20 a listing and we all know we can get that elsewhere. Most of those stores are Rays stores and a few of the larger ones as well.

As I have said before! see quote below!

Quote:Ray is a scam artist and here is his scam:

1) start an auction site as an alternative to ebay around the time you think they will increase fees. (did that 2 times now)
2) asume people will be upset with the fee increase (correct)
3) remember ray is a seller and is good at it so what is he selling?
4) because ray is a seller he in no way can see things from a buyers standpoint so he is selling you his site for $9.95 a month to start. That is why the site looks like it does. You are seeing Ray's listing. So it does not matter if you are a seller you are still the buyer you are buying his scam.
5) sellers start buying from each other to make it seem like there is site activity after they have been brainwashed into RAYTHINK. Cha ching (bonus money for Ray)
6) the #'s are fudged to make it seem like there is more activity than there really is. This fudge is done in many ways not just listing count the store count is fudged as well. Probably only 350 real stores. This was started between steps 1 & 2.
7) ad more fees but spend no real money.
assume that people will come and go for 1 year or so. Than close the site and make out like a bandit.

Another that sums up his exspences.

Quote:Ray's cost each month
dedicated servers provided by BLUEHOST $750.00
hosting fees same $100.00 no more than
rent 0.00 basement of his house
out of the box software 0.00 paid at startup
staff 0.00 needs 1 pc

Did you think he needs all kinds of computers to do what he is doing NO! everything is done and handled by his hosting company in Washington state. Even I have more computers going than ray does. If he had employees you would not have to wait to implement the so called upgrades he talks about. Yes there are other fees he payes but they would be spread out over a year and they would be minor. One person can handle everything as it is now he has less than 1000 users in total.

It's as simple as that and the truth will set you free!!!

let the truth be told
u1it4less - "it's all in the name..."
x-pop nation