Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

[Platzki]

Once again... I threw up in my mouth... just a little though...

Anyone have a mint?

[Sweet Girl 70]

users who want to file a complaint against companies that operate in New York state can file a complaint on the New York Attorney General's Website at http://www.oag.state.ny.us or via phone at 800-771-7755.

http://www.auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y05/m02/i23/s01

I just thought that this information may be helpful to those who are being harassed, threatened or otherwise abused by Raybil and co.

[youroverheadbin]

Back on topic...

One thing that Ray has working for him is that his general online sellers, his flock, don't have a clue what it actually costs to set up, launch and run an auction site.  Comparisons are perpetually made to the present day eBay, so they assume it's an expensive venture. eBay evolved through many years of expansion to create the guzzling giant it is today, with a B&M building, multiple departments and staff occupying them all. This misguided vision, this comparison is what Poppers believe is a reality with WP2. Therefore they honestly believe each tweek to the program involves time, staff and money.

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[Alskling]

[quote author=youroverheadbin link=topic=3775.msg35202#msg35202 date=1165350839]

H98
You know, spreading the word about Ebay via newsgroups
and online forums was a really common practice back in
the early days of Ebay. Back in 1997-1998 I spent a lot
of time directing people to my wares offered there through
just those venues of promotion (Ebay also used to tell
people to utilize such methods to promote their materials,
though they don't now).

Awareness is the main thing here -- getting people to
know that Wagglepop exists. When I direct people to my
store here it's with a link to both my store as well as my
"ME" page --- but after looking over my stuff then they
can go browsing the rest of the site and perhaps find things
of interest in other people's stores too.

Little by little we can raise people's awareness about WP --
it's just going to take time. Then again, Ebay wasn't built
in a day either.

The "How To Sell On Wagglepoop" book will be released in the new year.
And the response to this post;

H98,

Excellent post full of equal parts inspiration, perspiration, and vision

The comparison to eBay and the methods used for advertising in their "early days" is a valid one. I think sometimes we can forget exactly how the growth of eBay occurred, and tend to picture it only as the huge enterprise it is today.

In many ways, Wagglepop is a very close parallel to the dynamic that helped eBay became known, then used, then used by almost everyone.

Your real-world example is a wonderful reminder that the ways and means of building a business are the same for Wagglepop sellers as they have been for all sellers, both online and off, for centuries:

Good products. Good value. Good service. Solid promotion strategies.

Business 101

Karen - WP Customer Care

Can we please have a smiley for "gag a maggot"? 
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Karen gave the same canned sermon (nearly word for word) back in August when I had a store on WP. IT'S ALL BOINKTARD WAGGLE-TALK! -- a Swiss cheese analogy if ever there were one. The same ol' "Rome wasn't built in a day" gobbledegook KaRay has been tossing at the adoring masses since WP2's day one.

IT'S GARBAGE! I didn't use that word when I posted my reply on the boards back then, but tried to point out the holes in this stupid argument:

When eBay started FEW OF US EVEN OWNED A COMPUTER, let alone a modem, and of those that did, few had any CLUE what e-commerce was about. On-line business of any kind were next to non-existent, and the few  businesses that had web sites put them up to support their B&M stores. Add that NO VIABLE ON-LINE AUCTION VENUES EXISTED before eBay, so to encourage bidders to visit the site, eBay encouraged its members to populate news groups, on-line forums (what few there were), etc.  to EDUCATE people and introduce them to a medium that was new and untested.

The landscape today has completely changed. Even those who've been living under a rock in the deserts of Mongolia since 1997 have some clue what the internet and e-commerce is about. TODAY, E-COMMERCE IS EVERYWHERE. Is there any fool out there with access to the net who hasn't visited an on-line auction venue, or e-commerce site? Many of us use them exclusively for shopping! The challenge for e-commerce today is to offer a UNIQUE shopping experience -- a nitch, something that differentiates one from another and would give customers a reason to pick one as opposed to others. ALL THE WORK EBAY AND ITS ORIGINAL SELLERS DID TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN DONE. Karen's stupid sermon is like telling Poppers to reinvent the wheel. What does WP offer that's so unique? NOTHING -- unless you want to call being a member of a  cult that charges its faithful converts to get warm fuzzies, cyber breakfasts and a place to talk about their kid's potty training habits a truly meaningful shopping experience.

So, go pay KaRay every month for the privilege of SPAMMING the boards in internetland, you fools, and tell everybody all about the wonders of WP. Even those that know about it don't want to go there, BECAUSE BUYERS DON'T WANT TO SEE 160,000 TRADING CARD LISTINGS, idiots, and SERIOUS sellers who want to make a living would never join some dopey, obscure, cultist site and PAY to be part of some boinktard's vision, if they knew that's really what it is.

Oi, veh!

[youroverheadbin]

Alskling, I love it when you get your dander up. You rock!!! Now tell us how you truly feel. 

[FineThings4U]

Alskling,

Once again, you have hit the nail right on the head. 

 

[chiquita]

The comparison to eBay and the methods used for advertising in their "early days" is a valid one. I think sometimes we can forget exactly how the growth of eBay occurred, and tend to picture it only as the huge enterprise it is today.

In many ways, Wagglepop is a very close parallel to the dynamic that helped eBay became known, then used, then used by almost everyone.

In other words the methods used for advertising WP should continue as planned, spam, spam, and more spam. What newsgroups had a presence in the late 90's? 

Ray has convinced himself that he is actually a competitor to Ebay. He never compares WP to other sites that are the same size and have the same pathetic results, and there are already tons of them. :blinkie:

I think Ray is off his meds again, he is experiencings visions that WP is going to be the next Ebay. Ray please go back on your meds, those voices in your head are yours, and karen isn't a real person. 

[Alskling]

Excuse the rant in my last post, y'all, but it makes me CRAZY when people don't use their damn brains!

[maryrussel]

No need to apologize Alskling. I am always impressed with your eloquence.

This next is off topic as far as WP is concerned but I firmly believe that it is the secret to any business' success so I wanted to pull it out of your quote so that others wouldn't miss it hidden within all of your other gems of wisdom. "The challenge for e-commerce today is to offer a UNIQUE shopping experience -- a nitch, something that differentiates one from another and would give customers a reason to pick one as opposed to others."

[chiquita]

[quote author=Alskling link=topic=3775.msg35224#msg35224 date=1165359235]
Excuse the rant in my last post, y'all, but it makes me CRAZY when people don't use their damn brains!
[/quote]

Alskling, my day would not be complete without your shoot from the hip tell it straight out posts. Woman you rock. You need an avatar of a fiesty redhead. 

Ok everybody lets help alskling get a kickass woman avatar.