Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse?

Platzki · 12-09-2006, 03:50 PM,

[quote author=yyna link=topic=3775.msg35814#msg35814 date=1165677721]
kids grown to fast... dont turn your head or they will be gone. Hello

I still have a balace supposely it was added on the 18th... so might go head and pay it.... then I will not feel bad about complaining and spreading the word about :raypoop:
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As long as you really owe the money, you should pay it... if it's that whole "pay even though they did absolutely nothing for you yet" I say to "heck" with them!!! Toothy9

Alskling · 12-09-2006, 04:21 PM,

To YYNA and PRINCESS:

I recall PM exchanges with both of you early on. I'm the one who originally got the "boot", (terminated), because I had the audacity to start asking questions about advertising (or lack thereof), the dopey feedback system, business plans (or lack thereof), the "link referral" system (which I was told was against WP policy and would be grounds for account cancellation through a personal email from Karen, yet discovered the "cheerleaders" were all using them and were encouraged to do so).

I was the one who originally posted that business is more than sitting in a circle, praying, holding hands and singing Kumbaya. Scott Bulger took that comment and made it his signature. I was Designers Bargains, Scott's nemesis. He called me a liar and a cheat on the boards -- attacked my character and business ethics, and was cheered on by Karen (courteous and constructive posts only allowed, my ass! Glofity WP and kiss KaRay's Bootyshake

and you can get away with just about anything -- HYPOCRITES!). KaRay thought that excommunicating me would cut the cancer that was me out of the festering limb, but he/she underestimated me, my resourcefulness and drive to get the word out about this cultist, non-business site sucking in the innocent to line the pockets of one person only.

As you read through the thread you will see my posts, some of which have been preserved for posterity here, as they were deleted from the WP boards. After my termination, censorship became a rather routine thing. We knew it here, but many Poppers did not, as posts were deleted before they were given a chance to view them.

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Epilog: I watch very little TV, but while my husband was monopolizing the computer playing Pogo, I chose to turn on the glass teet while doing a little work out on the elliptical -- catching the tail end of a Dr. Phil episode on abusive husbands. One thing he said in closing that struck me. (Paraphrasing) "A symptomatic characteristic of an abuser is isolation (his word). An abuser will try to isolate his victim(s) from the world as a means of control. He will do what he can to isolate the victim from access to any tools that may help the victim learn the truth of the abuser's motives and character and get help to escape from the situation. Freeing yourself from an abuser is not about distancing yourself from him, but rather about reaching out wherever you can to access tools that will help you learn the truth and live independently from him."

let the truth be told · 12-09-2006, 04:31 PM,

[quote author=Platzki link=topic=3775.msg35810#msg35810 date=1165673358]
Can you believe it!!!?? I have been banned from the WP mini-mall forum!!! I haven't even posted there in days and everyting I said was nice! Even everyone here said that my posts were fair and not rude or pushy and even more tolerant than most!

I really thought that Bric and I were friends!! I guess I was totally wrong! I never said anything negative about her or Carol or anyone that I had been close to over there! I guess that Ray's lies are more important than my truth!

Or maybe his lies are just easier to believe... no one wants to admit that they've been duped!

I feel so sorry for them!! Bric if you're reading this I really hope you know what you're doing!! I know you're on the fence with leaving WP!! If we never talk again... just do what's right and get out now!!! Sad1

One thing I don't get is why you would ban someone that you know and that is a buyer!? You are doing the same exact thing that karay is doing!!! And that's regardless of what I think, feel or say on WP or any other board! Why would you care? Do you question all your potential buyers on what they think or post on other boards?

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I found this out a few days ago and also there is a new forum on the wpssu website that you won't be allowed to see either. Hide the truth that is there final stand.

let the truth be told
u1it4less - "it's all in the name.."
X-POP NATION, a real sellers network. Feel free to join all are welcome!

FineThings4U · 12-09-2006, 04:38 PM,

ItsMyLife

I am so glad you are here. yyna - once you close your store, unless you beg pretty please, you can't get back in. Once you've posted here, forget it. Unless, of course, you have ability to create different screen names and sneak back in.

I found this place from an ex-popper and passed the thread to other poppers I thought needed to see it. I think the lurkers want to keep the truth away from those remaining.

Wave

lurkers, you can ban us, but you can't shut us up.

:hoxmasgrinch:

Platzki · 12-09-2006, 04:49 PM,

I like the fact that we have lurkers... it shows that someone is listening to what we say... whether they act on it today, tomorrow or a month from now, we are making a difference.

I'm going away for the day and won't be home til late but I am looking forward to catching up when I get back. I have a feeling a few lurkers might become members today so for all of you on the fence... you CAN feel welcome, you CAN post the truth here and you WILL be accepted with open arms!

There are other venues besides WP... we will help you! Cross over children! Cross over into the light! There is peace and serenity... in the light! Icon_sunny

For the fuzzy footed wonder... all I can say is... Confused

mileyazwipe:

Have a great saturday everyone... relax, put your feet up and enjoy the day!

Tawk to yas lata'!!!

FineThings4U · 12-09-2006, 04:56 PM,

Quote:I must agree with ***** regarding the change of atmosphere here. I truly wish that this board could only be viewed by registered Sellers in good standing and not by the general registered populace of WP.

edited to remove name

Quote:I'm so disheartened by the petty jabs and sheer lack of professionalism in some of the recent posts. Airing one's dirty linen on a public board is NOT going to only hurt the person that the remarks are directed, but will severely tarnish every seller within our community and Wagglepop as a whole.

This is a business environment and should be treated as such. Our combined years of experience in the marketplace should reflect just that - professional courtesy and goodwill toward each other. If conflicts arise, then take it to the private board room (messaging/email) and not in the general working area (these boards).

If someone has something to say to another, it should be taken to private messaging or private email. If the issue isn't resolved that way, then take it up with WP staff. There is no excuse for the backstabbing and finger-pointing that's been going on for the last few weeks - ever - within public viewing.

Well, first of all - the only people that visit WP are sellers and they have to be in good standing or they are no longer allowed in.

No dirty laundry, but we can discuss potty training, etc.

Business environment Icon_scratch

I just don't get that one.

Nobody can PM anyone else without it being scrutinized by KaRay. Why would anyone be stupid enough to do that?

Finally, wake up THERE IS NO WP STAFF. It's just Ray sitting at his computer, scrambling to keep you all happy in a Smileykoolaid

haze.

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FineThings4U · 12-09-2006, 05:00 PM,

Quote:Hello Members,

We are happy to announce the following addition to the Community forums:

Farewells and Well Wishes

You'll find this new forum under the heading of Other Discussion Boards.

Effective immediately, any and all announcements of closure or impending closure or considering closure will be limited to this new forum only.

Posts about closure will no longer be allowed in any of the Community Help Boards or the Category Specific Discussion Boards.

Those boards are strictly for those who wish to remain Wagglepop members and contribute constructively to the site and community efforts and goals.

This new forum will be a specific area for members who are leaving the Wagglepop family to say farewell, and for other members to bestow upon them their well wishes for a successful future.

We would like to thank everyone in advance for their support of this new policy, and forum

Karen - WP Customer Care
Andrew - WP Customer Care / Director of Marketing & Development

A new forum. If you don't post your bye-bye's here, you are bad and can't come back. And lookie, lookie - Ray's other personality has made an appearance. KaRaDrew....don't know how we will work it when another imaginary friend makes an appearance.

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FineThings4U · 12-09-2006, 05:05 PM,

Quote:Hello Members,

I'm not sure if everyone has read the complete Board Participation Policy and this Clarification of the Board Participation Policy, and we would ask at this time that anyone who is not clear in their understanding to please do so now.

The first post in this thread contains a link to the policy and the addendum.

These boards are for members to help and support other members, with an occasional visit from staff for similar. Courteous and constructive posting is a requirement for participation, as are all of the points in the policy and the addendum.

Not everyone will agree with the decisions we make about what's appropriate for the boards and what is not, but we would ask that everyone respect that it is our responsibility and those are our decisions to make.

We will routinely remove posts that are outside of the boundaries for participation.

This will be done at the sole discretion of Wagglepop staff.

Members that understand and respect the policies and are building this community deserve that consideration and protection

Karen - WP Customer Care

That was posted Today.

You don't have to explain you censorship on a daily basis, we get it!

Signs017

Platzki · 12-09-2006, 05:10 PM,

KaRaDrew....

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This is gonna be good... Laughing4

Sweet Girl 70 · 12-09-2006, 05:18 PM,

I really don't get it :blinkie:, asking for more censorship and a separate board for those that are leaving. And the ever present "not good for business to read these comments on a public forum" -

We are not talking about cussing, pornography or hate speech people, we are talking about questions posed to address the issues directly related to business. Since when is an advertising conversation/discussion considered to be nonconstructive? Asking if anyone has sold anything because you haven't; is normal business networking. AARRGH!!! Violent1

Sure the boards on E get pretty brutal, but at least open conversation is allowed and when opinions are asked for answers are either accepted or ignored by other boardies.

I know it is difficult to kick a Smileykoolaid

habit, but you can do it....really.

How would you feel if within your home you were not allowed to mention food or money. No discussion whatsoever. If you said something you got a warning, say it again you are out the door. Just imagine going to the cupboard to get something to eat and you don't have anything and you say, "We need to buy some food." Out of nowhere comes the big delete button and zaps your words. So you quietly go to the store and buy food without saying anything. You get home and realize that rent is due and ask, "Do we have enough money to pay the rent?" The big delete button wipes you clean out of your house, never allowing you to return. Change the money word to sales and you have Wagglepop think!!