Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

[princessmirandajo]

[quote author=FineThings4U link=topic=3775.msg36530#msg36530 date=1165950827]
Congrats Miranda


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I actually didn't do it on purpose.  I toed the line, but apparently their dictatorship over there thought I wasn't good 'nough anyway.  

This totally blows my mind.  My post could have easily been twisted into more glory for Ray and yet.. they banned me instead.     I really just don't get this.  

[Kaboing]

[quote author=Alskling link=topic=3775.msg36528#msg36528 date=1165950487]

I really don't know if your serious or not.

Trust me, he's dead serious!
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Let's tally it up for Ray:
    Oct. 06 -- STORES: Ca-ching, ca-ching, ca-ching, ca-ching
                    FEATURED: Ca-ching, Ca-ching

    Nov. 06 -- STORES: Ca-ching, ca-ching, ca-ching
                    FEATURED: Ca-ching,
                    ADSMART: Ca-ching, Ca-ching

    First quarter 07 -- STORES: Ca-ching, Ca-ching
                    FEATURED: Ca-ching
                    ADSMART: Ca-ching
                    WAGGLE STUFF: Ca-ching
                    LICENSING: Ca-ching


Notice how when the store number (and income from them) drops, other Ca-chings magically appear to take up the slack.
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I am waiting for the special pay per click auctions.  Free to list and then only 10 cents per listing view.

Edit: On second thought, that may actually be cheaper than the store fee.

[youroverheadbin]

[quote author=princessmirandajo link=topic=3775.msg36529#msg36529 date=1165950634]
I'm banned from WP.  :blinkie:   
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Welcome princess to the ranks of the disowned. Your post was so short, so simple, far from inflammatory, insulting or vulgar. But in Karay's eyes you crossed the line by joining us here and closing your stores. I'm sure he was just waiting for you to make one final post so he could boot your arse out of there.

Ray isn't building an auction site - he's running an ostrich farm.  Only those with their heads in the sand will remain unscathed.

[princessmirandajo]

A week ago they were all but begging me to stay (they - he she it whoever) and then

KAPOW!

you evil woman!  you violate raylaw!

off with yer head!


I've been posting in here for awhile but I wasn't posting there.  Today's the first post I put in.  ah well. such is life.  they's talking about WP in PSU again - poor sap lost all his money then went back to eBay and CHACHING - the sales came.

That's about how it happened with me.  eBay sales been great and my inventory cost is next to nil so I don't mind paying the extra fees (for now).  Depending on the fee increase in '07 I may just cozy on up with PSU storefronts.  Good deal.  Would do that now if I had the time or the desire.

[princessmirandajo]

[quote author=youroverheadbin link=topic=3775.msg36537#msg36537 date=1165951158]
[quote author=princessmirandajo link=topic=3775.msg36529#msg36529 date=1165950634]
I'm banned from WP.   :blinkie:     
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Welcome princess to the ranks of the disowned. Your post was so short, so simple, far from inflammatory, insulting or vulgar. But in Karay's eyes you crossed the line by joining us here and closing your stores. I'm sure he was just waiting for you to make one final post so he could boot your arse out of there.

Ray isn't building an auction site - he's running an ostrich farm.  Only those with their heads in the sand will remain unscathed.


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Did you see both posts?  here was the last one:
banned. dang. that was fast!

after the first post was zapped, this was the second one I posted:
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MirandaJo  12 Dec 2006 19:02     



Staff dedication = bad?

I thought that was a very nice thing to contribute to charities before paying employees. It does show staff dedication, does it not?
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got an email from customer care christine? lol with cc to km and ap, whom I would assume to be Karen and Andrew. uh huh sure.

sigh.  well that answers that question.  why am I surprised?

[Alskling]

I posted this a couple months back, but thought it worth doing again (sorry, for all you veteran TT-ers), as there are SO many new x-patriot Poppers here who might not find it lost in the book that has become this thread.

To NEW POSTERS, this repost is FOR YOU! Why I am convinced WP is a cult. The following are characteristics of cult behavior, philosophy, agenda and methods:

1) shroud the philosophy in mysticism and secrecy. Make the followers feel they are “enlightened” and know something the rest of the world does not.

2) make the converts feel they are working toward a “common good”

3) convince followers that in order to persevere toward a greater cause they must suspend rational thinking at all costs

4) censor criticism in whatever form it appears and chastise those who engage in critical thought

5) segregate, punish and banish dissidents as polluters of the purity and sanctity of the cause, and praise those that participate in this "cleansing"

6) impress upon the faithful to be selfless, that they are part of something greater than themselves

7) give the faithful a sense of belonging and that belonging is a privilege that must be earned. Leaders have the right to suspend that privilege at any time should they feel it will benefit their own self-interests, using the argument that it is for the good of the members

8) carefully control the image of the movement by whatever means the leaders deem appropriate.

9) make the true leaders unapproachable – mystery enhances their bigger-than-life personas, but always have a visible “messenger” with whom the followers can relate, and a few disciples sprinkles around for good measure

10) exploit the weak, naïve and powerless and recruit them before they come to their senses

11) capitalize on the fears of followers and impress upon them that it is their duty and obligation to bring the “message” to the masses and recruit converts, as strength in numbers empowers the cause. Those under recruitment should consider it a privilege and an honor to be chosen to join the cult.

12) remind followers daily that they, and only they, are good and all others are evil. Only the leaders and followers who have taken the oath are to be wholeheartedly trusted

13) have a common enemy (ebay)

14) comfort followers when tired and weary. They need not be concerned that the leaders are gleefully enjoying the fruits of the followers’ labors, nor should they ever question leaders’ motives or actions, for the leaders are the chosen ones – chosen as keepers of a wisdom beyond mortal comprehension, thus their welfare must be coveted and preserved in order for them to guide and protect their followers and lead them to a “perfect world.”

15) proclaim that the devout must rise above daily travails -- have faith and all will be well

16) never let followers believe they have power as individuals – it is only through their collective efforts can the goals of the leaders be achieved

17) followers must always believe that the ends justify the means, as questioning the means only distracts and delays the process necessary to achieve the ends. 

18) continually remind followers that patience is the ultimate virtue. Should they ever feel that change is slow, always use the “Rome wasn’t built in a day” analogy and rewards beyond their dreams will given to those who are patient and faithful

19) create an oath of loyalty and make it known to all. This is the easiest way to identify evil infiltrators, potential pot-stirrers, spies and trolls, as they will hesitate to submit to the oath

20) use guilt, pity, and fear of reprisal liberally, as needed to control the followers, keep them loyal and amongst the flock. E.g. “I’m sorry if this may sound a bit negative, and I hope nobody gets angry and comes down on me for it, but I was just kinda, maybe wondering about something . . . . “ or, “Oh, please, please don’t run away from the flock. We love you – we need you – without you, we’ll be so sad . . . ” or “OK, if you’re going then good-riddins. You’re not good enough for us, anyway”, “I can’t believe you’re going back to E-something. Are you crazy? And after all we did for you. . . “

21) leaders have the right to arbitrarily change the laws, policies, and procedures that govern their actions or the actions among the flock if they feel it is in their (the leaders’) best interests to do so. Since leaders have supreme wisdom, there is no need for followers to question leaders' decisions in these matters, nor would they, as they would not wish to risk abandonment from the cult or retribution from its leaders

22) foster the notion that the movement is a “family”, its members your brothers and sisters and its leaders your mothers and fathers. Incest is encouraged in cult philosophy – only “family” members are trustworthy.

23) praise those that rise within the elitist ranks and shower them with special privileges (Red Carpet, mentoring, Team Leader, etc.),

24) instill in the minds of the followers that cult membership has something unique, special, world-changing and unable to be obtained anywhere else except through blind allegiance to the leaders

25) control and eliminate, if possible, the availability to information that might tarnish the image or destroy the credibility of the leaders, its followers, or the movement in general.

26) establish a set of “Commandments” that members most adhere to explicitly. Leaders, however, are at liberty to step outside these commandments when it suits them, as they are the chosen ones. 

[FineThings4U]

Ray better not create any more personalities.  He's already forgetting that Karen always uses 

You can tell when his mind is addled.

Well, the poppers, not as many as I had expected, are stroking the ego with their  so I am sure they will be allowed to spew whatever garbage they want.  You are better off for being banned Miranda.

:mgoodnews:

[princessmirandajo]

That's kind of scary, Aslsklidng (lol I forget what your name is on here).

If it is a cult, and a really good cult, it could be real bad.  This is the internet after all.

Anyone on X-Pop Nation?  I don't want to talk as freely on here as I have been... rather talk to y'all in private.

[youroverheadbin]

Well someone didn't see the value of the new carrots....er....features being added. The store count just dropped another notch.

RED ALERT!, RED ALERT! Damage control at it's finest.

No princess, I didn't see your second post. But you shouldn't have had to make it as there was no rhyme or reason why your first one was stripped.  I am not criticizing you or anyone specifically in this next comment. The sellers, so many of them being knitting closer and tighter within the WP web each and every day, just cannot fathom that Ray's motives are anything but for their benefit. Few of them are taking the time to calculate the ultimate cost for them.

Ray is a genius. He is so adept at feeding the multitudes then handing them a bill for the pleasure of dining in his establishment.

[Sweet Girl 70]

[quote author=princessmirandajo link=topic=3775.msg36544#msg36544 date=1165952732]
That's kind of scary, Aslsklidng (lol I forget what your name is on here).

If it is a cult, and a really good cult, it could be real bad.  This is the internet after all.

Anyone on X-Pop Nation?  I don't want to talk as freely on here as I have been... rather talk to y'all in private.
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Princess, don't be afraid to talk here.  Now you really understand more about our banter and the information we bring about WP.  We are not malicious people, just people that were either drawn into Raybil's web during wp1 or wp2 and somehow bannished because we asked questions or posted in a similiar fashion to you.