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Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

  
Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse?
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Paid Feebay Employees With An Agenda
1.64%
1 1.64%
Infiltrators
0%
0 0%
Trolls
0%
0 0%
Naysayers
1.64%
1 1.64%
Morally Bankrupt Miscreants
4.92%
3 4.92%
Upstream Providers
0%
0 0%
Jealous Types
1.64%
1 1.64%
Deadbeats
1.64%
1 1.64%
Ray Romeo
65.57%
40 65.57%
Ray Romeo\'s Alter Ego KaRay
16.39%
10 16.39%
Wagglepop CEO Ray Romeo Listing Items On eBay In His eBay Store Instead Of Listing On His Own Site
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Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
07-29-2006, 01:26 AM,
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Quote:actually, she wanted me to sign up with a dial up to see if the problems continued...ummm nope not gonna go from cable to dial up just for WP

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07-29-2006, 01:42 AM,
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[quote author=regic link=topic=3775.msg18935#msg18935 date=1154136385]
Quote:actually, she wanted me to sign up with a dial up to see if the problems continued...ummm nope not gonna go from cable to dial up just for WP

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07-29-2006, 02:26 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-29-2006, 02:34 AM by cranky_hippie.)
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RE: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
   :Smile One more:

Quote:I was finally able to contact the support dept. I simply asked to have my account cancelled (I just opened my store yesterday and was not able to list anything). This is the response that I received.

XXXXXX@wp.com wrote:

Hello,
To close your account:
1. Sign in to My Wagglepop, and click the Transactions link to pay your account balance in full.
2. Email me with the PP transaction ID number, and official request to close.
We'll have it processed witin 4-6 hours
xxxxxx - WP Customer Care

http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?t...2000188324&tstart=0&mod=1154139734530

To be fair to Ray, this was just added:

Quote:Ok--I guess the sinking feeling I got when I read that email was unwarranted. They closed my account after I responded that I wouldn't pay for a service that I couldn't use.

I give them credit for that.
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07-29-2006, 02:29 AM,
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RE: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
All kidding aside now if Google decided to go with a Google POP.
They may be able to pull it off. But anyone trying to further restrict free trade, like OS.com for instance, will fail big time IMO.
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07-29-2006, 02:55 AM, (This post was last modified: 07-29-2006, 03:05 AM by amy.)
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[quote author=stardust link=topic=3775.msg18218#msg18218 date=1153417645]
149/10/6436

Any bets on the hour/day his server crashes?   Big Grin
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For deepriverman's benefit, the fee hike exodus (Amazon, Yahoo, Overstock, iOffer, LiveDeal, GoogleBase changes are unknown):

HiBidder up 6,600 listings (current total 14,700 listings).
WagglePop has gained 8,000 listings (current total 14,400)
eBid US up 10,000 (current total 173,000).
eBid UK up 18,000 (current total 201,000).
MightyBids up 19,000 (current total 181,000).
Online Auction is up 25,000 listings to 138,000 (the site has a habit of exaggerating its size by using the total number of items--2.3 million--rather than the total number of listings when it issues press releases)
eCrater has gained 29,000 (current total 175,000).
Bidville up 40,000 (current total 990,000)

Wagglepop might lag behind other sites as an alternative listing venue for sellers, but it is definitely a real alternative to eBay in terms of its ability to provide hours of entertainment for forum "naysayers" and "trolls". ;D




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07-29-2006, 03:22 AM,
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Quote: ...but it is definitely a real alternative to eBay in terms of its ability to provide hours of entertainment for forum "naysayers" and "trolls". Big Grin 

Did I hear "my" name?  Smile
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From a percentage standpoint, wp and highbidder are doing fantastic.  Despite it's quirks, wp seems to be giving people enough warm fuzzies to at least give it a go for now.

56%  WagglePop
45%  HiBidder    
18%  Online Auction
17%  eCrater          
10%  MightyBids  
9%  eBid UK          
6%  eBid US            
4%  Bidville 
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me Wrote:the fee hike exodus (Amazon, Yahoo, Overstock, iOffer, LiveDeal, GoogleBase changes are unknown)

Add this to my last post: the gain is unknown, but it's a safe bet that due to their size these sites gained more listings since the fee hike announcement than the smaller sites.

Something to consider: Caiman_com's  zShop (a CD seller) on Amazon has more listings than the combined total listings on Bidville and Yahoo Auctions.  Caiman has 2.3 milion listings on Amazon, and too many to list on Half.com, and also sells on eBay (casacaiman on eBay).

Fee hike aftershock: Caiman now only has 840 items listed on eBay compared to the almost 500,000 they had last month--Amazon gained about 200,000 of those listings and the rest likely went to Half.
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Fee hike aftershock: Caiman now only has 840 items listed on eBay compared to the almost 500,000 they had last month--Amazon gained about 200,000 of those listings and the rest likely went to Half.

That may be the kind of thing ebay was after to thin down -- 500K-item stores.  (Problem is, it hit low-inventory sellers awfully hard, too.)  If so, you'd think the PTB's would also thin it out in the core site.  Caiman needs a web site like you guys have.  No?  Did I not read that you would also be closing your music store on ebay?
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[quote author=stardust link=topic=3775.msg18951#msg18951 date=1154145492]
Fee hike aftershock: Caiman now only has 840 items listed on eBay compared to the almost 500,000 they had last month--Amazon gained about 200,000 of those listings and the rest likely went to Half.

That may be the kind of thing ebay was after to thin down -- 500K-item stores.  (Problem is, it hit low-inventory sellers awfully hard, too.)  If so, you'd think the PTB's would also thin it out in the core site.  Caiman needs a web site like you guys have.  No?  Did I not read that you would also be closing your music store on ebay?
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Moving those 500,000 items off eBay is also more likely to move buyers off eBay to other venues than the moving of 8,000 items to WP (by hundreds of sellers)

questions answered Smile
1. Caiman has a very nice website (see their Amazon ID and you'll be able to find the site)
2.  Our eBay Stores CD store was closed several weeks before the fee hike because the traffic to it from April-June was down by over 70% from the same period last year (eBay's hide the store from search  technology at work) :blinkie:  Our Half.com store remains open.

CORRECTION to 1: Caiman is actually using Amazon's Instant Website Program ( see this thread for details on Amazon's website program http://community.tuliptools.com/index.ph...130.0.html) If eBay had half a brain it would have developed something like Amazon's website program instead of buying ProStores.
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