Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse?

thentavius · 08-20-2006, 06:28 PM,

"If you build it they will come". "Brick by Brick". "Join the Revolution".

They already built it. Yahoo!, Amazon, Overstock, iOffer, eBid, even Bidville for chrissakes.

**amy** · 08-20-2006, 07:03 PM,

wp seller Wrote:As of Aug. 3, the listings were over 30,000. It was one of the biggest sales days ever with 71 sales. This gives WP a .003236 sales to listing ratio. This means that an individual seller would needs 422.53 items listed to have possibly gotten a sale on that day -- on the average. It's my understanding that the majority of these sales are coming from fellow sellers and not from the buying public at large. I don't know about you, but that doesn't excite me quite yet. I've been listing away as well as have other sellers, as evidenced by the listing numbers. We've also been "spreading the word" as best we can, in every way we know how. But where are the buyers? Anybody have any bright ideas on how to attract buyers that haven't already been tried? Since joining on July 19, I've had one $7.99 sale, which barely covers the gas to get to the post office 20 miles away.

karen wp (ray) Wrote:I think you'll find it both educational and helpful to read the Sales Reports page in full.

Sell-thru ratio is immaterial and an illogical gauge under the SmartSell Pro selling environment.

You're applying some "eBay-think" to the Wagglepop sales environment.

Since listings under SmartSell Pro have no cost per insertion, it's false logic to hold the number of insertions against the number of sales.

The eBay sell-thru numbers are very good, if that's your main gauge of viability, however each and every listing comes with a cost of participation, so there's the overall cost to consider.

True profitablity is simply:

Total Sales in Dollars - Cost of Participation = Gross Profit Before Cost of Goods

Sell-thru numbers do indeed tell you if you sell more, but they don't say anything about profitablilty.

wp seller Wrote:I did read the sales report in full before creating my post. At present, my WP balance is $10.45, and my sales are $7.99. While I agree it's a start, I wouldn't call that profitable by anybody's standards, no matter how you spin the numbers.

**amy** · (This post was last modified: 08-20-2006, 10:26 PM by amy.)

Exchange of emails between Wagglepop user and Wagglepop Customer Service Karen:
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?t...2000199693&start=168

The Wagglepop discussion on the eBay boards started here:
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?t...2000199693&start=89

The email exchange was a result of this thread on the Wagglepop boards:
http://www.wagglepop.com/community/viewtopic.php?t=1541

Nothing has changed since WP1--no complaints will be tolerated. Ray once again making even eBay look tolerant by comparison. :blinkie:

:raypoop:

ps on page 2 of the thread on WP the poppers started talking about ice cream and chocolate--reminiscent of WP1 when any complaining was met with talk of cheese. : Smile

thentavius · 08-20-2006, 10:22 PM,

Pro-WP quote on the stores board:

Quote:I really like WP at this moment, they have the highest increase in listings to date and one of the best deals around. Good sense of community there, too. $9.95 for free listings in all formats, with your own storefront. It takes investment of time, not my money. I want to be able to say to all the nay saying complacent "happy to take hike after hike" folks soon, "I was a pioneer, while you had no vision. You jump on the boat after the fact monkey!"

Well, maybe I would be a little less forward in my sentiments, this is only for the sake of having other ponder alternatives. Personally, I am staying at ebay while I duplicate my inventory here over "there". We'll never have competition if we don't do it. So ask yourself: Can I afford $9.95 a month more now, to help free me from this leash?

Bolding mine. Not really free then, is it?

thentavius · 08-20-2006, 10:25 PM,

Whoops--forgot the link to it:
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?t...2000199693&tstart=0&mod=1156111919867

BellisimaJ. · 08-20-2006, 10:32 PM,

Quote:Nothing has changed since WP1--no complaints will be tolerated. Ray once again making even eBay look tolerant by comparison.

Ray is an :asshat2:

Quote:Sell-thru ratio is immaterial and an illogical gauge under the SmartSell Pro selling environment

:blinkie:

thentavius · 08-20-2006, 10:34 PM,

wagglepop_forever
wagglepopshoptiludrop

posting on that thread. LOL.

**amy** · 08-20-2006, 10:42 PM,

One eBay store that apparently won't be closing in response to the fee hikes--WP owner Ray Romeo's eBay Store.
http://stores.ebay.com/The-Vintage-Paper-Archive

stardust · 08-20-2006, 11:57 PM,

I guess we now know what his marketing plan is, don't we? A reallllllll stroke of genius, no? Tongue3

sneakymagenta · 08-21-2006, 05:06 AM,

Quote:I know you WP's want that place to make it, but unless CS can separate business from their personal reactions to events, they are in big trouble.

A year's vacation and a sex change operation didn't fix Ray/Karen's biggest shortcoming. He/she is a hot tempered :peepants: who can't cope with criticism. Sellers are expected to suffer in silence when they encounter problems. Drink the Smileykoolaid

or hit the highway.

:raypoop: