Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse? You do not have permission to vote in this poll. |
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Paid Feebay Employees With An Agenda | 1 | 1.64% | |
Infiltrators | 0 | 0% | |
Trolls | 0 | 0% | |
Naysayers | 1 | 1.64% | |
Morally Bankrupt Miscreants | 3 | 4.92% | |
Upstream Providers | 0 | 0% | |
Jealous Types | 1 | 1.64% | |
Deadbeats | 1 | 1.64% | |
Ray Romeo | 40 | 65.57% | |
Ray Romeo\'s Alter Ego KaRay | 10 | 16.39% | |
Wagglepop CEO Ray Romeo Listing Items On eBay In His eBay Store Instead Of Listing On His Own Site | 4 | 6.56% | |
Total | 61 vote(s) | 100% |
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Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
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12-11-2006, 02:25 AM,
Post: #4771
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=chiquita link=topic=3775.msg36088#msg36088 date=1165802976]
[quote author=wildcatll link=topic=3775.msg36081#msg36081 date=1165801890] I think any and everyone from here should report this to eBay that way they can and know to look for it. May help to stop most of them. [/quote] Ebay already knows about it I am certain. Ebay can and will if necessary take appropriate action. They also were aware of the blatant spamming on the boards and initially allowed it. Currently I believe those posts were being pulled, and pink slaps issued. That is why the spamming activity slowed down. Anybody know the legal definition of bad-faith activity? :blinkie: Never heard of it [/quote] There IS such a thing as 'bad faith" in the legal world, but quite frankly I don't see how in the world Ray thinks he could use it against anyone who has posted on his board. Here's the Wikipedia definition: Bad Faith It's not a law per se, but more of an interpretation of the intent a person has in a business dealing/transaction. Like I said, I don't see Ray using it, but I can see it being used AGAINST him.
Never argue with an idiot they drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
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12-11-2006, 02:32 AM,
Post: #4772
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Well hello there Power Seller!! And what brings you to our lovely 'stablishment this evening??
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12-11-2006, 02:33 AM,
Post: #4773
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
The information to file a complaint with the BBB is posted in X-POP NATION. It is in the forum so you will need to register to see it. Some already have filed a complaint as I have done so.
let the truth be told u1it4less - "it's all in the name.." X-POP NATION, A real seller's network |
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12-11-2006, 02:46 AM,
Post: #4774
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
powerseller Wrote:Quite some time ago eBay banned me indefinately from their Discussion Boards just for including the word "waggly" in a post. EBay is scared of Wagglepop Um, Platzki, I think PowerSeller is here to spam. Could be wrong. Does sound that way. Quote:EBay is scared of Wagglepop Yeah, right. |
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12-11-2006, 03:02 AM,
Post: #4775
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Just saying hello! Juz been readin
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12-11-2006, 03:04 AM,
Post: #4776
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Quote:Very nice quote and I agree. The critics don't count for anything. How worthless it is for them to spend their time picking apart everything we say and criticizing our good work here when they are doing none. Victory will only come to those who are HERE to receive it. Ok seriously now - no ridiculing involved. You say Victory will come. EXACTLY what do you mean by that? What is your victory? Are we talking sales/money? If so, come on and tell me what you made this month on your victorious site. My guess is I make more in a week than you've made in 6 months. "...those who are HERE..." That statement is scary. Are you somehow suggesting that those who are not THERE are inferior? Not good businesspeople? Not intelligent enough to see 'the vision'? Sweetheart, I guarantee hands-down if you stay THERE you will lose money each and every month until you get a clue. People that walk around with their heads in a cloud imagining that someday, if they just wish hard enough it will come, are NOT businesspeople. I WORK 14-16 hours per day. What do you do? Pray? Think about your next rebuttal post? Worry about the worms infiltrating your site? Your remarks do nothing but CONFIRM to me what has been said. This is a cult. Since we all know you read here, I really hope you read this and THINK -->> FOR YOURSELF.
In the practice of tolerance, one's enemy is the best teacher. ~ Dalai Lama
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12-11-2006, 03:11 AM,
Post: #4777
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Quote:There IS such a thing as 'bad faith" in the legal world, but quite frankly I don't see how in the world Ray thinks he could ue it against anyone who has posted on his board. It's my understanding that "bad faith" can only apply when a binding contract has been broken through non-performance of one party and the other does not agree to cancelling the contract. I would find it hard to believe that KaRay could substantiate any "bad faith" action when it is HE/SHE that unilaterally and with questionable cause, cancels users' accounts for expressing opinions where were clearly not in violation of any of its policies. In addition, it is an act of "bad faith" to alter or change the terms of the contract without both parties agreeing -- something WP has done repeatedly. Furthermore, "bad faith" can only be used with regards to a "legal" contract. I think it could be argued that the board policy is, in fact, unconstitutional and thus not worth a hill of beans to begin with. If anything, it's WP that should be running scared -- and I think KaRay is. Sending threatening collection letters without notice and due process, for one. Non-performance by its inability to render services promised, yet are either non-existance or never fulfuilled, for another. Restricting members' right to assemly, as stated in the Constitution, another. Unequal and discriminatory enforcement of the policies and procedures, for yet another -- also clearly unconstitutional. I could go on, but I have a business to run, unlike WP which collects monthly fees from the faithful and uses them for what? Paying KaRay for the time, surveillance activities, time in board posts, etc. to keep the very people they took the fees from in check. |
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12-11-2006, 03:20 AM,
Post: #4778
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=Alskling link=topic=3775.msg36109#msg36109 date=1165806700]
Quote:There IS such a thing as 'bad faith" in the legal world, but quite frankly I don't see how in the world Ray thinks he could ue it against anyone who has posted on his board. It's my understanding that "bad faith" can only apply when a binding contract has been broken through non-performance of one party and the other does not agree to cancelling the contract.  I would find it hard to believe that KaRay could substantiate any "bad faith" action when it is HE/SHE that unilaterally and with questionable cause, cancels users' accounts for expressing opinions where were clearly not in violation of any of its policies. In addition, it is an act of "bad faith" to alter or change the terms of the contract without both parties agreeing -- something WP has done repeatedly. Furthermore, "bad faith" can only be used with regards to a "legal" contract. I think it could be argued that the board policy is, in fact, unconstitutional and thus not worth a hill of beans to begin with. If anything, it's WP that should be running scared -- and I think KaRay is. Sending threatening collection letters without notice and due process, for one. Non-performance by its inability to render services promised, yet are either non-existance or never fulfuilled, for another. Restricting members' right to assemly, as stated in the Constitution, another. Unequal and discriminatory enforcement of the policies and procedures, for yet another -- also clearly unconstitutional.  I could go on, but I have a business to run, unlike WP which collects monthly fees from the faithful and uses them for what? Paying KaRay for the time, surveillance activities, time in board posts, etc. to keep the very people they took the fees from in check.  [/quote] Great job and well put. This is exactly how you should describe it to the better buisness bureau. Everyone should put it this way to the better business bureau. You can find a link to the BBB in X-POP NATION. The more that report it the sooner they will act! let the truth be told u1it4less - "it's all in the name.." X-POP NATION, A real seller's network |
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12-11-2006, 03:26 AM,
Post: #4779
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=Alskling link=topic=3775.msg36109#msg36109 date=1165806700]
It's my understanding that "bad faith" can only apply when a binding contract has been broken through non-performance of one party and the other does not agree to cancelling the contract. I would find it hard to believe that KaRay could substantiate any "bad faith" action when it is HE/SHE that unilaterally and with questionable cause, cancels users' accounts for expressing opinions where were clearly not in violation of any of its policies. In addition, it is an act of "bad faith" to alter or change the terms of the contract without both parties agreeing -- something WP has done repeatedly. Furthermore, "bad faith" can only be used with regards to a "legal" contract. I think it could be argued that the board policy is, in fact, unconstitutional and thus not worth a hill of beans to begin with. If anything, it's WP that should be running scared -- and I think KaRay is. Sending threatening collection letters without notice and due process, for one. Non-performance by its inability to render services promised, yet are either non-existance or never fulfuilled, for another. Restricting members' right to assemly, as stated in the Constitution, another. Unequal and discriminatory enforcement of the policies and procedures, for yet another -- also clearly unconstitutional. I could go on, but I have a business to run, unlike WP which collects monthly fees from the faithful and uses them for what? Paying KaRay for the time, surveillance activities, time in board posts, etc. to keep the very people they took the fees from in check. [/quote] You're right on all counts, in my opinion. I think StarDust said something along the lines of 'he's just getting started'. If we go back to the psychology aspect of this for a minute, I think in all reality, he really is enjoying this. Throwing posts around like that serves several purposes. First, and foremost, it feeds his own ego. He has this need to be in control and be 'powerful'. By threatening dissenters in the way he has done, his faithful few will drool in awe - Thank you, thank you for keeping us safe. They will also be reminded that in order to stay a part of the family, they better toe the line lest dire consequences are to be had. Its almost fascinating to watch if it wasn't so sickening and actually affecting people's lives. There is an obvious downward spiral in terms of the posts. Maybe its just me, but I've also noticed an obvious 'male' slant emerging more and more. Before I would say it could have gone either way, male or female writing. I really wasn't sure I bought the whole Ka/Ray theory. I'm starting to truly believe it now. Should be an interesting few weeks, lol. :popcorneaters:
In the practice of tolerance, one's enemy is the best teacher. ~ Dalai Lama
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12-11-2006, 03:36 AM,
Post: #4780
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Alskling, again thank you for your response and obvious wisdom.
Eclectica- you are one sharp cookie. Ray is Karen, who else would allow a CS rep to speak to the members that way. Who else would never have a day off, could get an answer from "management" in under a minute on a Sunday to a poster's request? :popcorneaters: |
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