Atomic Mall's Owner Preaches the Seller to Seller Sales Doctrine

[xwpopper]

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He's a blow hard with a skewed way of thinking who tries desperately to convince himself that AM is a "big deal" because to admit otherwise would be to admit his mistake. That's what it's all about for Patch - being right, and he'll do or say anything to convince himself and others... Things like becoming an Examiner for the express purpose of promoting AM under the guise of being unbiased toward other sites, especially Bonanzle. Bonanzle is the site he knows he should be using, but he can't because he's spewed a volcano's worth of venom their way. His animosity reveals much about him. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that he's the kind of guy that always ends up on the losing team.
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Mike has been jealous of Bonanzle since the day Ecommerce Guide wrote an article about them instead of him. Then when it was posted to PSU, the best "writer" within the AM fold wrote the thread about it being a viable eBay alternative for him.

[size=12px]For those that haven't heard about one of the other promising venues that is a viable alternative to eBay, I'd like to present the Atomic Mall.[/size] [size=12px]Brand new as of July 1st, 2008, the Atomic Mall[/size] [size=12px]offers an outstanding experience for both buyers and sellers alike.  [/size]

The whole intro spells jealousy. He started first, but got pushed to the side because his site had so many problems on startup:
Browser incompatibility
Shared SSL in a popup window with a totally unsecured site (he has now upgraded the popup to a dedicated SSL with a totally unsecure site)
Shared server incapable of handling more than 20 concurrent visits
Horrific load times
Terrible design
And every other problem that can be loaded into the above problems was there.

Bonanzle worked pretty well out of the gate, AM fell far short. He got jealous, and never saw daylight again. A sad story of how jealousy ruins a site's reputation.

He works so hard to eliminate duplicates on his site, yet can't figure out how to eliminate fakes from his site. His "programming" changes the item around regularly to force bots to continually visit, and alternatively keep infringing items always on different pages. He's no moron, but is he unethical by manipulating search engines for placement? Whenever Google notices this, that is considered posting duplicant content. The old page still indexed, the new page now indexed, equals duplicant content in Google's eyes. It won't take long, and if Google investigated AM in depth they would be zapped just like BluJay was last year.

[amy]

He works so hard to eliminate duplicates on his site,

Bullsh.it    His largest seller WE is the king of duplicates.  Read Mikey's response and justifications for WE's dupes when he was called out on the duplicates in June.
http://www.powersellersunite.com/post-262374.html

When I list a universal cell phone holder that fits 100 different cell phone models I create one listing (e.g. Universal Cell Phone Holder for Nokia cell phones) and list the models it fits in the item description.  When WE lists the exact same item they create 100 different listings for the same SKU -a different listing for each cell phone model it fits (e.g. Universal Cell Phone Holder Nokia N72, Universal Cell Phone Holder Nokia N73, etc., etc)

So are those all of the times he has visited TT?

OMG....Talk about PARANOIA!

That's just 2 days worth of his visits. I'm a mod and I only have time to stop by here briefly once or twice a day.  He (and his "staff") are here virtually 24/7. :

[LittleOnlineStore]

Well, Patch's going with Atomic Mall has absolutely nothing to do with his thinking that site will be any success.

It has everything to do with getting back at Bonanzle, because he got pissed that they started charging for transactions under $10. He wasn't smart enough to join right away when they were grandfathering in new members. Those of us that joined those first months dont' have fees if we sell something under $10. By time he was willing to join, they had changed that and started the 50 cent fee for sales under $10. Since he sells those cheap magnets and other VERY low cost items, he was seriously MAD that his laziness meant he'd have to pay at least 50 cents for each of those transactions.

That's when this all began. He realized he screwed up, and thought he'd get revenge by siding with a (they seem to think) competitor. He kept whining about the 50 cent fee and when he realized that his whines weren't going to change anything, he stomped off and started rallying for Atomic Mall.

Since he's so spoiled and lazy, he won't bother with creating his own store and forgetting all about the drama. No, he'll never g with Bonanzle, but there are plenty of other sites out there to focus on. I'd put money on eBid and eCrater any day over Atomic Mall.

Atomic Mall will never be a choice for buyers. The site's purple color and tiny print are just so unprofessional. I told Mike he needed to change the color and style to make it a more professional site, but he was all into that whole Atomic thing. Sorry, but those with cash aren't looking to buy from a purple place called Atomic Mall. They are trying to sell new sometimes expensive items on a site that can't even compare to a simple Zen Cart store in appearance.

At least Bonanzle has always know its niche. Is it expensive brand new items, No. They are well aware that their big sellers are more like flee market type items...you know, the stuff that eBay used to be about.

[Cuff]

That's when this all began. He realized he screwed up, and thought he'd get  revenge by siding with a (they seem to think) competitor. He kept whining about  the 50 cent fee and when he realized that his whines weren't going to change  anything, he stomped off and started rallying for Atomic Mall.

So, he screwed himself and it's Bonanzles fault? I bet he hears "grow up" a lot.

[sneakymagenta]

Compete August traffic:

exhibit A
BODY COUNT:
The object of the atomicSpammer's jealousy: 573,559 unique visitors  (monthly change +16.7%)
AM's largest seller's website 136,088
AtomicWannabe 100,855 (monthly change +3.1%)
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/atomicm...orium.com/

analysis: if AtomicDink's traffic grows 35% it will be as big as....its largest seller's website

NUMBER OF SITES REFERRING VISITORS:
Bonanzle 765
WE 165
AM 74

analysis: the number of sites linking to AM's largest seller's website is over 2X more than the number linking to  self-proclaimed eBay alternative AM



exhibit B: the 3P seller mall competition
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/atomicm...+shop.com/

analysis: the best SEO on the planet isn't enough to make the average buyer trust the site

exhibit c: the other competition
http://siteanalytics.compete.com/atomicm...mazon.com/

analysis: now you know why AM wasn't on eBay's recent poll

[PowerSeller]

[quote author=sneakymagenta link=topic=18789.msg75241#msg75241 date=1253285512]analysis: if AtomicDink's traffic grows 35% it will be as big as....its largest seller's website[/quote]

analysis: the number of sites linking to AM's largest seller's website is over 2X more than the number linking to self-proclaimed eBay alternative AM

analysis: If the above is true, the fact that this particular seller USES Atomic Mall SHOULD give everyone here a clue as to the value of Atomic Mall as an alternative.   

[LittleOnlineStore]

Which bring up the question why that seller is paying 5% FVF (if they even are) when they could be selling the same and probably more on their own site.

It has nothing to do with AM being a viable alternative and more to do with letting AM take the fall for the dupe listings. Especially the way the new system will be and AM will have to provide their own Google feed.

So I guess the ability to flood AM with duplicate listings is worth the 5% FVF.

BTW, Alison, could you provide a link to your store maybe even your feedback in your sig, so we can see how poorly you do there?

This seller has it right. Charge 30 cents per DVD and then $9 to ship....LOL
http://www.atomicmall.com/seller.php?id=10532

Nothing like getting out of those FVF's.

[maggie777]

the fact that this particular seller USES Atomic Mall SHOULD give everyone here a clue as to the value of Atomic Mall as an alternative.   

Here are 6 facts that SHOULD give everyone here a clue as to the value of Atomic Mall as an alternative. 

1. Cheerleader Powerseller has 1700 items listed and only 20 transactions in 12 months on AtomicMall
2. Cheerleader R and C  only has 31 transactions in 13 months on AtomicMall
3. There were 25,000 transactions on AtomicMall during the past year which is 9,000 fewer than the number of orders I shipped during the same period.
4 : Cheerleader Powerseller's $1300 sales during her first year on Atomic Mall are less than many of us, who R and  C referred to as failures , sell in one day.
5.  The track record of cheerleaders Powerseller and R and C  suggests they have a lot to learn about selling: Powerseller spent years cheering for failed site Wagglepoop, and R and C's selling record is mediocre at best : only  67 feedback during the past 30 days, and 1000 in 7 years, on a site with 86 million visitors.
6. George Tannous and  AtomicCryBaby are the only auction site owners I know who have publicly made threats about suing their critics.

[dimucci]

I'll  add one to Maggie's list.

7. Any advice given by somebody who won't own their words is worthless.


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[xwpopper]

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analysis: If the above is true, the fact that this particular seller USES Atomic Mall SHOULD give everyone here a clue as to the value of Atomic Mall as an alternative.   
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Actually it shows a perfect example of horrible business sense.
Everything this seller has listed on AM is about $3 cheaper than on their website. So this seller pays 5% to lose money by selling on AM. Of course this merchant will sell a lot by AM standards at Atomic Mall. It's cheaper to shop there.
Yet still, when shoppers search for his products a vast majority still seem to visit his website instead of Atomic Mall, even with much lower prices on Atomic Mall. The reality is, 100k visitors don't even look at his lower prices on Atomic Mall, while a thousand or so go for his better prices over his website in the past year.
In fact, with the exception of the WE Ecrater and Shop accounts, every single venue for this particular product is cheaper than on their website:
http://www.wirelessemporium.com/products...harger.asp
http://www.google.com/products?q=Ericsson+1228%2F1228c%2F1228d%2F1228di%2F1228LX+Car+Charger++&hl=en&aq=f

I'm not posting anymore links. You can look yourself. If you are paying higher rent and charging less money, you don't have a clue how to operate a business. A resale license, data file, website, and merchant account don't make you a good businessperson. A good businessperson wouldn't risk being banned from Google for running so many duplicate feeds.