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eBay! Sellers! Voice! Concerns! About! eBay Express!
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01-18-2006, 10:10 PM,
(This post was last modified: 05-04-2006, 01:35 AM by amy.)
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eBay! Sellers! Voice! Concerns! About! eBay Express!
So far no updates on the PayPal site to the user agreement or seller protection policy, so unless they do update it you're taking a chance by using eBay Express and PayPal together.
eBay Express announcement http://pages.ebay.com/sell/announcement/...press.html US Buyers and Sellers only for Express Quote:Selling on eBay Express is the same as selling on eBay. Remember, an eBay Express listing is an eBay.com listing. Therefore the same selling policies, seller protection, feedback and qualification for PowerSeller status on eBay apply to eBay Express. Since SPP requires confirmed addresses, no SPP
"Well, Jay was so giddy that someone named Jay was involved with this site we posted our first non-eBay listing in 3 years here at Lunarbid (we tried two items at Yahoo once upon a time, they bombed)" -Marie posting in a LunarBid thread at OTWA in 2005 wins the award for 'most moronic reason ever given for choosing a venue"
"thanks twat u must have nothing better 2 do. do u talk to all your members like that. will not be recomending your site. best way to put it is TULIPTOOLS.COM IS REALLY SHIT. DONT JOIN." -pubescent owner of rinky dink off2auction.com in 2011 |
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01-19-2006, 07:24 AM,
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eBay! Sellers! Voice! Concerns! About! eBay Express!
I get the distinct feeling they're trying to move in on and/or catch up with thebig0 with their 'new merchandise' ads. Isn't amazon also known for their 'new' books, cd's and stuff? Ebay's been selling itself as the world's greatest garage sale/flea market. Perhaps they are trying to remake their image, and from reviewing stats of other sites over the last years, they've discovered the new trend of 'new' stuff sells better than 'used', which is why Target and Sears and Walmart and Home Depot, etc., are doing quite well on the web.
Ergo, Ebay Express answers that call for 'new' stuff only, with a shopping cart, which all buyers want. They cannot incorporate a shopping cart on their current sites, but they can sure build a new site and incorporate a cart system from the gitgo. Ergo, they had to do something to appease store owners, because buyers will surely shop Ebay Express now, and not the auction area as much anymore -- so store items will now show up in search on the 'old' ebay. And they also threw another carrot, knowing it's now going to be even harder for store owners to make a go of it, by adding more categories for organization and presentation purposes. Whether or not a particular ebay seller will benefit from -- or be hurt by -- this move will strictly depend on what they sell and how much competition they will have. On my end, I'm going to have to think this out a bit -- and someone is going to have to absolutely define 'new'. I mean, a piece of particular clothing can be made in 1975, but has never been worn, so is still 'new' -- maybe even 'with tags'. But, then again, it's not really new. So, what's 'new' really going to mean? Another note of interest: By demanding the 100 fb score on the new site, perhaps they are trying to weed out 0 feedback fraud sellers from the gitgo. No, it doesn't weed out those somewhat bad sellers with 100K+ sales and tons of negs, nor those who charge $50 to ship out a $1 rolled print, but it surely does shut out the newID scammers -- and perhaps even the 'illegal, fraudulent copy *pawnitoffastherealthing* sellers that abound on the old site. That, the rest of us peons with under-100 fb will have to try to out-maneuver still.......... Non-confirmed PP/shipping address? I ship 50/50 that way, because I prefer a business address to obtain a delivery signature vs. trying to catch someone at home, which is where their 'confirmed' address will always be. And my buyers like it, too! Plus, if you want to sell internationally, confirmed addresses just don't exist anyway, do they? So, this particular uproar doesn't affect me at all, I don't think. |
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01-19-2006, 08:31 AM,
(This post was last modified: 01-19-2006, 08:41 AM by mandy.)
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eBay! Sellers! Voice! Concerns! About! eBay Express!
An eBay employee post points to the following thread as the main place eBay will be communicating with its customers about eBay Express:
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?t...2000071413&start=0 The reaction to the new eBay Express by sellers on the first 2 pages of that thread is ovrwhelmingly negative due to concerns of a loss of PayPal seller protection. Quote:Coming Soon: eBay Express Reuters is carrying a story on eBay Express: Quote:EBay Inc. on Wednesday said it planned to offer an instant-purchase service to supplement its bid-and-wait online auctions, pitting the company directly against conventional e-commerce retailers. full article: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060119/wr_n...icing_dc_2 =============================== related topic: eBay! Raises! Fees! Sellers! Get! Boinked! http://community.tuliptools.com/index.ph...243.0.html |
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01-19-2006, 12:26 PM,
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Re: eBay! Sellers! Voice! Concerns! About! eBay Express!
In a nut shell here is what Bill is saying:
Our reporter caught up to him and he made this statement below to the Happy Hour crowd at a local lounge last night. =================== QUOTE FROM BILL ebay's main site is so screwed up that we can not fix IT. There is so much code and useless junk that we fear by even removing one of our hundreds of stupid glitchancments we will kill the site. Now let me clarify that last statement and let you all know one thing. I in no way, have ever been involved in the half a$$ed lame brain ideas all these other departments have come up with and implemented ON THEIR OWN at mid management levels. I was kept out of the loop. With all that said one thing here at ebay we do realize is that there is only one true answer if we are to try and salvage the company as a whole. WE MUST START an entire NEW site from scratch. As far as the requirements for sellers that decide to join us. We understand your concerns about accepting all PP payments regardless if the address of the buyer can be conformed or not. IT is a moot point and you are all just confused. As you all know by now the SPP and BPP are very limited mechanisms that were introduced shortly after we bought PP. The reason these "programs" were implemented in the first place was to TRY and persuade the general public (who BTW were leaving the site due to concerns of being SCAMMED) that ebay was indeed still a safe place to trade. Now let me clarify that last statement and let you all know one thing. I in no way, have ever been involved in this half a$$ed lame brain idea either. I was kept out of the loop and these programs were implemented before my tenure began. So lets review. The main site sux for so many obvious reasons and we know it. People are and continue see the old ebay as SCAM CENTRAL. The SPP and BBP offered by PP are worthless. This new site will be GREAT and we promise we will do everything in our power to try to keep our hands DEEP in your pockets. So what do you say. Are you with us??? END QUOTE Bill then fell off the table he was standing on and was poured into his car by co-workers and a bouncer at the club.
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01-19-2006, 03:47 PM,
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Re: eBay! Sellers! Voice! Concerns! About! eBay Express!
eBay "Pinks" are supposed to stop by that thread to answer questions today. The only answer so far:
Quote:vera_j@ ebay.com View Listings | Report Jan-19-06 01:23 PST 62 of 84 |
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01-19-2006, 04:56 PM,
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Re: eBay! Sellers! Voice! Concerns! About! eBay Express!
Quote:eBay Express is a complicated undertaking; we're now finalizing our planning and development work I'll take that to mean the the only thing they've done so far is come up with the name. ![]()
"Well, Jay was so giddy that someone named Jay was involved with this site we posted our first non-eBay listing in 3 years here at Lunarbid (we tried two items at Yahoo once upon a time, they bombed)" -Marie posting in a LunarBid thread at OTWA in 2005 wins the award for 'most moronic reason ever given for choosing a venue"
"thanks twat u must have nothing better 2 do. do u talk to all your members like that. will not be recomending your site. best way to put it is TULIPTOOLS.COM IS REALLY SHIT. DONT JOIN." -pubescent owner of rinky dink off2auction.com in 2011 |
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01-19-2006, 05:25 PM,
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Re: eBay! Sellers! Voice! Concerns! About! eBay Express!
That is certainly how it seems at this point.
Sorta like Business Registration and the Digital Download stuff. Only with the potential to REALLY mess with the core workings *using that term loosely* of the dot com site. |
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01-19-2006, 05:51 PM,
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Re: eBay! Sellers! Voice! Concerns! About! eBay Express!
Quote:Only with the potential to REALLY mess with the core workings *using that term loosely* of the dot com site. I think it will result in fewer bids on many items and less traffic to eBay Stores. The introduction of eBay Express and ProStores aren't exactly ringing endorsements by eBay of its eBay Stores platform.
"Well, Jay was so giddy that someone named Jay was involved with this site we posted our first non-eBay listing in 3 years here at Lunarbid (we tried two items at Yahoo once upon a time, they bombed)" -Marie posting in a LunarBid thread at OTWA in 2005 wins the award for 'most moronic reason ever given for choosing a venue"
"thanks twat u must have nothing better 2 do. do u talk to all your members like that. will not be recomending your site. best way to put it is TULIPTOOLS.COM IS REALLY SHIT. DONT JOIN." -pubescent owner of rinky dink off2auction.com in 2011 |
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01-19-2006, 07:11 PM,
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Re: eBay! Sellers! Voice! Concerns! About! eBay Express!
Quote: with a shopping cart, which all buyers want Express guarantees eBay Stores buyers will never get what they want. |
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01-19-2006, 07:18 PM,
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Re: eBay! Sellers! Voice! Concerns! About! eBay Express!
Pinkie posted and said no SPP protection if you ship to unconfirmed addresses.
Quote:Why does eBay Express require me to transact with buyers with unconfirmed addresses?
OAI Moron Hall of Fame
<i>sell-thru is an irrelevant and illogical consideration.</i> -KaRay, owner of WP giving selling advice, 2006 <i>the site was 'NOT' hacked but the little script that had recipes on had the link altered</i> -Plunderhere Owner Mark Taylor after his site was hacked by a Chinese hacker gang, 2008 Some people have it like that, others dont. I do. -Probidscripts owner Spencer Osama Binweb Laden Ray bragging about his ability to scam the OAI without feeling any guilt, 2008. How does an auction site get buyers? -question asked at PSU by owner of auction site BidBeaver.ca, 2008 How do I get sales? -question asked at PSU by online store owner, 2009. I was told by my Tech. Support that my site dont really need SSL.. his servers are well protected and that info your providing to join aint really top secret information -owner of auction site TheTraderOutlet.com discussig his site's lack of basic security, 2009 |
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