eBay Profits from Mass Fraud by Unverified Chinese BIN Bandit Bidders

[amy]

The thread on the eBay Trust & Safety board turned into a hijacked circus.   

[bud]

First, let me introduce myself, you can call me Bud. Hi everyone.

http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/topnew...hings.html

Are they grasping at straws? Looky that stock price...

After reading the blurb about the Romanian jailed for threats against Meg and Pierre, who was  paid to recruit ebaY members, does anyone believe they may have offered cash to Chinese BIN bandits also?

That did come at a time when ebaYs auction counts were very low...

Wouldnt be the first time ebaY used such creative methods to increase revenues, now would it?

[amy]

Hi Bud 

The Chinese BIN bandits could have been members of eBay's affiliate program.  eBay doesn't seem to care who joins its program or how the affiliates get referrals as long as the affiliates refer new members to eBay.

[xppman]

Hi bud nice to meet you. 

The Chinese BIN bandits are ebay's buds. (no pun intended) 

They make ebay many $$$ in fees.
Because ebay may (if they know they have been had and then files)
return the FvF and listing fee.
But NOT any of the upgrades like BIN, Gallery or any add on fees.

[amy]

But NOT any of the upgrades like BIN, Gallery or any add on fees.

I learn something new every day but since eBay doesn't donate enhancement fees when you run charity auctions I should have expected they wouldn't refund enhancements when there is fraud or a listing is pulled either.

[maggie777]

I got hit more than once by the BIN's 2 years ago.  Check out the  Buy Now Bandits pages at EMS

http://www.ebaymotorssucks.com/~ebayother/rb/
http://www.ebaymotorssucks.com/buynowbandits.htm

[mandy]

Auctionbytes is running an article today on the current Chinese BIN bandits problem:

Over the past month, eBay sellers on U.S. discussion boards have been discussing the problem of Chinese "BIN bandits" on eBay. The problem described by posters is that newly registered, zero-feedback members from China are buying BIN (Buy It Now) items from eBay sellers in a systematic fashion, and not following through on the transactions.

Some believe the BIN bandits, who are targeting designer items, are harvesting the names of those sellers in order to send them emails advertising their product-sourcing services...

In many cases, the alleged BIN bandits from China are registering with eBay User IDs that start with the name of a designer followed by letters. They seem to use an automatic system to create many such IDs; for example, truereligionsunda, truereligionsundb, truereligionsundc; and use those IDs to bid on branded items - in the case of these IDs, the True Religion brand of designer clothing...

full article: http://auctionbytes.com/cab/abn/y06/m05/i03/s01

[mandy]

Merged this topic with the other topic on Chinese BIN bandits 

Replies #11-#15 are the thread that was merged into this one.

[xppman]

In these situations the only right thing to do is for ebay to refund the seller ALL
fees. (Including the listing fee)

After all it is ebay's lax registration policy that is allowing the fraud to occur.

Some sellers may not even be aware that they have been hit by the Bin Bandits.
After not being paid for the BIN's some sellers may go through the NPB process
that takes what 14 days or so?

But then they only get back the FVF.



Someone was in this thread trying real hard to deflect this serious situation.
See if you can guess who it is.  LOL

Mass fraud by unverified chinese bidders - what has ebay profited?
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/thread.jspa?t...1000259859&tstart=120&mod=1146280336420

[stardust]

I do not possibly have the time nor inclination to read all the threads, but... 

You know what screams out at me about this?  What better way to cause your #1 competitor a lot of grief, fortune and bad press?  My guess is that alibaba, or taobao or whatever the right name is, is behind all of it.  Would be pretty easy to pay a few folks to mess with USA auctions to create a turmoil and bring ebay down financially and publicly via bad press and bad ethics charges. 

Every time the owner of that site makes a public statement that *ebay is finished in China*, it gets my hair up that something's wrong in fairyland.  I would put my money on dirty tricks from the competitor.