Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse? You do not have permission to vote in this poll. |
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Paid Feebay Employees With An Agenda | 1 | 1.64% | |
Infiltrators | 0 | 0% | |
Trolls | 0 | 0% | |
Naysayers | 1 | 1.64% | |
Morally Bankrupt Miscreants | 3 | 4.92% | |
Upstream Providers | 0 | 0% | |
Jealous Types | 1 | 1.64% | |
Deadbeats | 1 | 1.64% | |
Ray Romeo | 40 | 65.57% | |
Ray Romeo\'s Alter Ego KaRay | 10 | 16.39% | |
Wagglepop CEO Ray Romeo Listing Items On eBay In His eBay Store Instead Of Listing On His Own Site | 4 | 6.56% | |
Total | 61 vote(s) | 100% |
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Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
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07-27-2007, 07:08 PM,
Post: #16391
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=user391 link=topic=3775.msg62655#msg62655 date=1185562444]
[quote author=scoop link=topic=3775.msg62653#msg62653 date=1185561253] You are making it sound like this whole thread is misleading and full of lies. It's not.[/quote] Yes it is.[/quote] Convenient for you to show up today and talk in riddles. One thing this thread does is back up what it says... Care to elaborate on your statement User? You say that this is all lies. Back it up with proof instead of wasting my time and others. Or are you just MAD about not selling any gifts, music and vintage things to keep yourself busy? |
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07-27-2007, 07:11 PM,
Post: #16392
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=user391 link=topic=3775.msg62655#msg62655 date=1185562444]
[quote author=scoop link=topic=3775.msg62653#msg62653 date=1185561253] You are making it sound like this whole thread is misleading and full of lies. It's not.[/quote] Yes it is. Quote:Now User if you could please answer Brat's question. I think it's a very good question and would like to hear your take on this. I think it's a silly question. Anyway I know from experience that many things can be learned from having an eBay store and listings. For example one little thing could be to test loading the store with listings, get them all into Turbo Lister, then upload them into a WP store using InventoryDirect. He could see how smoothly the process goes and if there are any unexpected quirks that WP members might encounter while attempting the same. It's so obvious to me that many things could learned from having that eBay store and listings. No doubt he has listings on several other venues that nobody has discovered yet. I know that WP is the best site around from being around many other sites. [/quote] User I think you need to go back and read this thread again. There are many facts posted here that are very true. I don't think it's a silly question at all. I'd like to see you go over to WP and post and ask them why the owner is selling on ebay. Better yet I'd like to see you post and ask all the questions we pointed out the other day about what Andrew should have had in his analysis. Especially the one on why Andrew failed to analyze what WP could have done better. Or ask about future plans for marketing and what about sales reports. Or are you afraid your post would be deleted or you would be banned. |
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07-27-2007, 07:13 PM,
Post: #16393
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=user391 link=topic=3775.msg62655#msg62655 date=1185562444]
[quote author=scoop link=topic=3775.msg62653#msg62653 date=1185561253] You are making it sound like this whole thread is misleading and full of lies. It's not.[/quote] Yes it is. Quote:Now User if you could please answer Brat's question. I think it's a very good question and would like to hear your take on this. I think it's a silly question. Anyway I know from experience that many things can be learned from having an eBay store and listings. For example one little thing could be to test loading the store with listings, get them all into Turbo Lister, then upload them into a WP store using InventoryDirect. He could see how smoothly the process goes and if there are any unexpected quirks that WP members might encounter while attempting the same. It's so obvious to me that many things could learned from having that eBay store and listings. No doubt he has listings on several other venues that nobody has discovered yet. I know that WP is the best site around from being around many other sites. [/quote] Bolding mine... Ignorance is bliss... Problems with Iventory Direct aren't with uploading to EBAY - problems are with uploading to WP... You don't have to upload anything to Ebay to enter your items in Turbo Lister.
Stop LURKING - Come and post!
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07-27-2007, 07:46 PM,
Post: #16394
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
What's the matter User? I know you're still here ... Don't want to answer anymore questions?
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07-27-2007, 09:07 PM,
(This post was last modified: 07-27-2007, 09:09 PM by Karma.)
Post: #16395
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=user391 link=topic=3775.msg62648#msg62648 date=1185559878]
Scoop, the point is not what you posted to DB on PSU. The point is that she took those words, twisted them, and blamed them on someone else. For nearly the last entire year that we know of, she has done this twisting, exaggerating, and inventing hundreds of times over again. I'm surprised that it took this long for some of you to realize that she does this. I believe that any problem that she ever thought she had with WP was 100% her and nothing else. Same with the other fellow involved in the current dispute. Then we saw an endless stream of gullible WP sellers feeding off of those 2 posters' ridiculous lies, manipulations, misleading false information, etc. and giving up selling on the best eBay alternative site that exists. Now the truth has been told. [/quote] Yes, the truth HAS been told over and over on THIS thread. With the amount of people who have been mistreated by WP, it is quite easy to confuse "who said what." But, by no means does your little beef with DB, in any way, prove that everything was lies and manipulation. I and many others received and noticed these issues with WP LONG before we even found this TT thread. We were not "lured" here by lies and manipulations. I came here because I had NEVER EVER IN MY LIFE seen such treatment of people, customers, sellers, buyers....by a company that people are paying them for a service, period. The ONLY ones who have not had a touch of that treatment are the ones who just blindly follow, feel warm and cozy on the forums, and never ask a REAL BUSINESS question. It didn't matter how nicely anyone made a suggestion or even a question. For some strange reason on WP, any question or suggestion regarding things they themselves talked about months before, was considered "negative". To me, I wouldn't have gotton so ticked off if rather than deleting posts they just tried the TRUTH and said, "hey, we cannot make good" period. Wagglepops way of handling things is just to delete and pray for "out of site, out of mind" mentality. I am not a liar. I am not making "tales" up. I experienced, what more than 750 others experienced. Wagglepop built up peoples expectations, never followed through, never gave explanations just deleted the issues rather than address them. For those who make sales on WP, it is all YOUR OWN DOING, and you are lucky and it has nothing to do with being on WP. For all those others who continue to pay and have no sales, those are the ones who will be let down the most. Like someone said, those that are left are never going to leave until it closes or they finally just give up. Even without this thread, it really made me sick to see WP remove all threads and anything that had to do with the "We the People" etc. Wasn't that what everyone was all excited about? A new "alternative" to Ebay that was based on the sellers, the people? Every good thing you thought about WP was deleted and removed and you still "praise" them! So, user391, do not think to "pop on in" during a disagreement to try to manipulate their disagreement to what you consider your advantage. To me, the only thing their disagreement proves is PEOPLE HERE ARE HONEST AND TELLING THE TRUTH! And if they mess up their facts, then that is what life is about, NO ONE IS PERFECT, but at least even their arguments are honest in their intent and purpose. Something that Wagglepop will never, ever have....... So, unless you want to attempt to call me a liar, just go back to wherever you came from as there is not one single thing you could produce that could make any of the 750+ ex Wagglepopers believe that site is an alternative to ebay, or a great place to sell, or is an honest company where you will get the most "bang for your buck." The main thing holding WP together is the friends people made. If you all feel that you couldn't remain friends after leaving WP, then they were never truly friends to begin with. |
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07-27-2007, 09:20 PM,
Post: #16396
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Wonderfully said Karma!
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07-27-2007, 09:50 PM,
Post: #16397
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Well said karma.
I was also there for the DB bashing at WP. It doesn't really matter who said what. The truth is that more than one person took some cheap, personal shots at her. Many fences have been mended since that time. Before the DB incident, there was another. I don't remember all of the details, but there was a gentleman who sold on eBay who was scolded like a kindergartner by Karen on the boards for something (in my opinion) was quite trivial. The point here is that many great sellers were treated like shit at Wagglepop. It doesn't matter who said what. What matters is the way that their so called "customer service" department handled things (or totally ignored things) publicly on the boards. Many of us came to vent. We all came together to discuss our personal experiences and help each other get over the bad taste that was left in our mouths. We helped each other, laughed with each other and cheered each other on as we went on to new endeavors. I do not understand, truth, why you are posting riddles here. It is really creepy to me that you are acting like the puppet master. Please just post exactly what it is you are trying to get across. I am computer ignorant, so I am not getting the innuendos. I have always enjoyed your wagglefacts, but now your tone is different. I just don't get it. :-\
I hate stupid people!
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07-27-2007, 10:37 PM,
Post: #16398
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
User, thank you for answering my question. You may find my question silly but anyone who has used turbo lister knows you do not have to load the auctions on ebay. So now that the confusion is out of the way....I think its silly for anyone to back a company(well only a one man show) when the owner won't even back it by listing his own goods on his own site. I think its silly that you back a company that constantly lies to you especially when you are paying for a service.
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07-27-2007, 10:47 PM,
Post: #16399
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=FineThings4U link=topic=3775.msg62666#msg62666 date=1185573046]
I do not understand, truth, why you are posting riddles here. It is really creepy to me that you are acting like the puppet master. Please just post exactly what it is you are trying to get across. I am computer ignorant, so I am not getting the innuendos. I have always enjoyed your wagglefacts, but now your tone is different. I just don't get it. :-\ [/quote] Bolding mine. Fine & everyone, There are no riddles here. I posted new information about Ray and WP. Are you referring to my post that was solely directed at ray about the bench, tree and the pond. Isn't it obvious why I did that? I did that to send Ray a message that I know exactly what his moves are before he even completes them. I do know what Ray has been planning for his next move, I have watched this play out since March when I posted that he was planning something else. Everyone seems to think that WP was abandoned when "Karen" left. I don't understand what is so hard to understand that there is no Karen or Andrew. WP is only Ray end of story. For months now everyone in this thread has been playing into Ray's hands, listening to what Karen has to say, Andrew has to say and pulling posts from the WP threads to this forum. By doing this everyone involved has enabled Ray to continue the smoke and mirrors show. It has also slowed down the healing process for many posters in this thread and also slowed the process for sellers who are still at WP that are on the fence. This thread has become a dead horse beating contest. If you remember correctly I announced here on TT some time ago that Ray purchased a cougar through eBay. I confirmed that I saw the car at the WP world headquarters (Ray's 1800 square foot home in NY) and announced it here as well. I announced that Ray changed his eBay ID and went back to selling. I posted the message to Ray when he started listing on eBay again because I noticed something in those listings. Look at the properties in the pictures and you will see this website mentioned : http://vpagrading.com Then is you go to the images directory you will see this link : http://vpagrading.com/images/ Look at Ray's auctions on eBay you will find most of those images in his auction but you will not find the one named family. That is the message that I sent Ray if you don't see it go back to my post where the picture is displayed. Then take the domain name and take a good look at it vpagrading.com which stands for vintage paper grading. Also please note the date the directory was originated, April the sixth 2007, long before Karen left Ray's favorite spot next to the USB hamster wheel. Get my drift yet? If you don't sorry people but I have far better things to look at then WP, I tend to look ahead and see what he will be doing next which is why I mentioned "unity". What everyone here needs to do is look at yourselves and ask yourself, is there something else besides WP and this thread that I should be doing. If you truly wish to help the sellers who sell at alternative venues, ask yourself is WP the only venue that is pulling a scam, ask yourself is Ray the only boinktard that owns an auction site. Look outside WP to the alternative venues and you will see the term "unity" plastered all over the place. At some point in the near future there is going to be a unified group of boinktards and that spells trouble for those sellers that sell at alternative sites. As I have said and I first reccomended that is for a new thread and not here, but as it appears to me at this point Ray and his WP will in the near future have no other choice other then to join this unity to continue to profit from his cash cow. Please note when I am ready to start this new thread I will but not until then. End of rant. For now I am out of this thread, the rest you can figureout for yourselves as I had left this thread a while back to move on to bigger, better things and report my findings of what Ray is actually doing now and will be doing in the future. Truth |
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07-27-2007, 11:03 PM,
Post: #16400
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=bratpack link=topic=3775.msg62668#msg62668 date=1185575855]
User, thank you for answering my question. You may find my question silly but anyone who has used turbo lister knows you do not have to load the auctions on ebay. So now that the confusion is out of the way....I think its silly for anyone to back a company(well only a one man show) when the owner won't even back it by listing his own goods on his own site. I think its silly that you back a company that constantly lies to you especially when you are paying for a service. [/quote] Sigh. I did not say that you HAVE to load the auctions on ebay to use turbo lister. I was saying that, for example, to answer your question, one of the many things that Ray could use that store and those listings for would be to try the process of moving those listings from the eBay store into Turbo Lister and then upload them into a WP store (as many potential WP sellers would want to do) to see how simple the process is, how long it takes to do X number of listings, etc. It is his choice of course whether or not he wants to sell goods on WP and/or any other site, and nobody here knows whether or not he already is or will at some time in the future. |
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