Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse? You do not have permission to vote in this poll. |
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Paid Feebay Employees With An Agenda | 1 | 1.64% | |
Infiltrators | 0 | 0% | |
Trolls | 0 | 0% | |
Naysayers | 1 | 1.64% | |
Morally Bankrupt Miscreants | 3 | 4.92% | |
Upstream Providers | 0 | 0% | |
Jealous Types | 1 | 1.64% | |
Deadbeats | 1 | 1.64% | |
Ray Romeo | 40 | 65.57% | |
Ray Romeo\'s Alter Ego KaRay | 10 | 16.39% | |
Wagglepop CEO Ray Romeo Listing Items On eBay In His eBay Store Instead Of Listing On His Own Site | 4 | 6.56% | |
Total | 61 vote(s) | 100% |
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Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
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05-05-2008, 10:12 PM,
Post: #17341
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Floormat Guy is already ahead of the game. He is selling dropshipped floormats.
Or should I say listing floormats. He and Ray will be on the same page, inflating the listing count and selling NADA Bees that poster is the same ole whacky dude DRM, Brian, et al.... "Those jealous people" gives him away every time |
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05-05-2008, 10:55 PM,
Post: #17342
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=Nikkicute link=topic=3775.msg69752#msg69752 date=1210008792]
[quote author=scampy7 link=topic=3775.msg69747#msg69747 date=1209983919] Quote:Hi everyone. With the exception of losing some friends' stores on WP, I am very much looking forward to seeing how the site evolves with the upcoming changes. Mr. Floormat [/quote] I think we all know that was directed at TT. If there is one group or person (Sherrand) who would notice someone's listings drop and may assume that seller was leaving and post about it (knowing Ray is reading) it would be right here on TT. WagglePop: Like the site not the site owner. [/quote] Nikki, Floor Mat Guy has been subtly dropping listings for a while now. That's due to his drop-shipper revamping inventory. If any lurking popper is interested in buying FMGs products a bit cheaper then he has them listed I recommend going directly to his source: http://dropshipdirect.com/ And if you follow the links to kitchenware you will discover product and pictures identical to items PS has listed on WP. What a coincidence! They use the same source! No wonder they cover each others backs here and on PSU. Perhaps AndRay will use the same source when he cranks out his drop ship products. Or maybe he already has started as FMG. Internet research has not revealed any presence or footprint of Automotively Floored anywhere in cyberspace except on WP. No previous selling history. Yet by his own admission FMG claims to be aware of events prior to opening his WP store. If he wasn't a seller there or somewhere else, why would he follow the drama of WP? Just a suspicion on my part but makes one wonder. I wouldn't dare report any stores that appear to be heading for the door. I wouldn't want to be responsible for the popper brigade swooping down on them with pep talks or pity sales in an attempt to keep them anchored to WP. No one deserves that. I'll close with a tidbit of a post I came across on another forum called Collector's Universe. The date for site opening is wrong, and Ray wasn't booted off eBay (suspended maybe) but the guts of the post are interesting: Quote: Tuesday February 05, 2008 9:24 AM A few other posters on the thread warn sellers to avoid WP too but this was the most detailed.
The one thing you can never afford to lose is your temper.
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05-05-2008, 11:10 PM,
Post: #17343
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
In addition; if anyone doubts my claim the FMG uses this drop shipper just compare these 2 pages. One his listing, the other his source. He even stole the write-up word for word and put it in his listing. A real stand-up guy.
http://www.wagglepop.com/bin/auction/view?cmd=view&listingID=461128 http://dropshipdirect.com/warehouse/touc...24739.html
The one thing you can never afford to lose is your temper.
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05-05-2008, 11:40 PM,
Post: #17344
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Quote:If any lurking popper is interested in buying FMGs products a bit cheaper then he has them listed I recommend going directly to his source: FloorMatGuy could increase his margins significantly if he dealt directly with the real supplier Mats4Less (who also offers dropshipping) instead of using middleman DSDI (Drop Ship Direct)--of course the supplier only deals with real businesses and the fact that FMG doesn't charge sales tax to California residents tells me he probably doesn't meet the supplier's qualifications (tax ID or business license). Speaking of sales taxes, have Wagglepop's largest sellers been given a special Popper exemption from the sales tax laws that the rest of us have to follow? Very few of them charge sales tax on orders shipping to their own state (a couple actually do). Maybe I should move my business to WP to take advantage of that exemption. : |
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05-05-2008, 11:45 PM,
(This post was last modified: 05-05-2008, 11:54 PM by amy.)
Post: #17345
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
EDIT: The special Popper exemption from charging sales tax apparently extends to eBay sales too. Wagglepop owner Ray Romeo's eBay listings don't mention NY State sales tax either.
EDIT 2: the reason why NY based Ray not charging sales tax on instate shipments pisses me off can be found in this post |
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05-06-2008, 12:32 AM,
Post: #17346
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
amy Wrote:Very few of them charge sales tax on orders shipping to their own state You're ASSuming that all those feedback padding seller to seller sales result in a shipment of the goods to the buyer. tolensmiley:
OAI Moron Hall of Fame
<i>sell-thru is an irrelevant and illogical consideration.</i> -KaRay, owner of WP giving selling advice, 2006 <i>the site was 'NOT' hacked but the little script that had recipes on had the link altered</i> -Plunderhere Owner Mark Taylor after his site was hacked by a Chinese hacker gang, 2008 Some people have it like that, others dont. I do. -Probidscripts owner Spencer Osama Binweb Laden Ray bragging about his ability to scam the OAI without feeling any guilt, 2008. How does an auction site get buyers? -question asked at PSU by owner of auction site BidBeaver.ca, 2008 How do I get sales? -question asked at PSU by online store owner, 2009. I was told by my Tech. Support that my site dont really need SSL.. his servers are well protected and that info your providing to join aint really top secret information -owner of auction site TheTraderOutlet.com discussig his site's lack of basic security, 2009 |
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05-06-2008, 01:12 AM,
Post: #17347
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=amy link=topic=3775.msg69756#msg69756 date=1210030801]
Speaking of sales taxes, have Wagglepop's largest sellers been given a special Popper exemption from the sales tax laws that the rest of us have to follow? Very few of them charge sales tax on orders shipping to their own state (a couple actually do). Maybe I should move my business to WP to take advantage of that exemption. : [/quote] They are "taxed" enough just belonging to WP. [quote author=sneakymagenta link=topic=3775.msg69758#msg69758 date=1210033956] You're ASSuming that all those feedback padding seller to seller sales result in a shipment of the goods to the buyer. tolensmiley: [/quote] Sneaky, let me guess. Silver Charm and Unique are your prime examples. Did you know they live down the street from each other? Makes sense to me that they don't use USPS to ship. Delivery is either non-existent or they exchange goods when they get together for morning coffee. Taxes? Doubt one penny exchanges hands. And those 2 are just a tip of the iceberg. Unique took a shot at selling gift certificates. I don't think this venture produced the results she was looking for. http://tinyurl.com/4c248z
The one thing you can never afford to lose is your temper.
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05-06-2008, 01:25 AM,
Post: #17348
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Sherrand,
I, too, had been observing a drop in FMG's listings in the last couple weeks and thought maybe he was weeding out what was being warehoused on WP but has since sold with dropshipping from his site. Thank you for confirming many of my suspicions on Ray, FMG and the dropshipping coalition, but didn't know where to go to find the evidence. The fact that FMG's CA registration is practically next door to PS has always been a little too coincidental, especially when PS herself said something to the effect of "and how do you know that Ray doesn't sell on WP?" And, of couse, we all know Ray restores classic cars (bought in CA off of eBay). I've also suspected PS and Ray have something "special", and I wouldn't be surprised if she's getting a piece of Ray's monthly seller tithes as compensation for all her spam, blog BS and who knows what else: sockpuppeting perhaps? I do suspect her involvement goes way deeper. As I recall she did let it slip that Ray will at some time be selling, and to not ask her how she knows, but that she "knows". And the fact that Ray's info is "secret" in Who's Who leads credence to the possibility that the site may be partnered or even owned by someone else. So, at least on the surface, it appears that the holy trinity (Ray, PS and FMG or FMG/Ray) are orchestrating their own dropshipping empire using WP as the conduit. And where are they getting the financing for their contracts with dropshippers? Let's see. A 300% increase in the monthly tithe was just announced. Hmmmmmm. |
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05-06-2008, 06:56 PM,
Post: #17349
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Found this thread while researching WP after observing its strangeness. Found TTs information alarming but helpful. A lesson learned for me. It is really sad that it wasnt a real site. So is customer care someone or are all alter egos him? Does anyone know if any fraud has occurred to anyone who has signed up on WP? New here and have not dug through all the forums. ( I have been lurking and reading and wanted to say thank you)
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05-06-2008, 08:53 PM,
Post: #17350
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
What happens if someone does not pay their stores monthly fees?
I don't recall ever giving them my ss # so what can they do? |
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