Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

[Alskling]

EyesWide

Tell us about your WP experience and what about the TT posts were informative to you. How did you find us? Are you still at Popland? We're always eager to hear from new blood regarding your perceptions.

I have never seen a link to ebay in a WP listing before today. That's a smart popper if you ask me drive the traffic away from WP to ebay where they have there items. Totally new concept here.



let the truth be told
u1it4less - "it's all in the name.."
X-POP NATION, A real seller's network

If Ray's lurking this thread I'll bet he's freaking out right now trying to find the "offender". PM me, Truth. I'm dying to find out who it is so I can see for myself. Oh wait, he must be one of those eBay-paid infiltrators DRM was talking about. He better share his check with us, or I'm going to rat on him.

[thentavius]

Craigslist 37
Etsy 2,902
iOffer 3,192
eBid 12,410
Ecrater 17,867

These venues ROCK.

[youroverheadbin]

[quote author=Alskling link=topic=3775.msg41860#msg41860 date=1170281641]

Hey you guys, stop picking on PowerSeller.      It's KaRay we don't have any respect for. Lets pick on him

I'll pick on any LIAR. According to PS's logic, if she sells her mother's old diamond engagement ring for $1000 to a Popper she buys 999 trading cards from for $1 each, she's a seller and not a buyer. And the OTHER Popper is a BUYER not a seller.

Frankly, I couldn't care less if PS a seller or a buyer, but to call yourself a seller simply because the dollar figure on sales (we're taking her word for it, anyway) is higher than that of purchases, is BS. She ignored all the other questions I asked her, and concentrated on this issue alone.

Same goes for WP. I couldn't care less if it's a cultist, elistist, private club run by a egocentric, selfish, greedy despot who presses a few buttons on his boxed software in his home office. Just say so. Claiming WP is any kind of ALTERNATIVE to eBay, is a flat-out lie. It is one big scam created by smoke and mirrors, and much of  the way Ray conducts business is dangerously close to being illegal (although it could be argued that the line has been crossed on many occasions).

What amazes me about PS and Poppers like her is that they have NO PROBLEM aligning themselves with what appears to be a liar, con artist, and thief (in fact VOCIFEROUSLY defend him) as long as they get something out of it. What kind of ethics are those?
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Alskling my friend. We all once upon a time held the hope that WP would become an alternative to eBay. Because we wanted to believe it would be for our own desperate but hopeful reasons. And that is why we each signed up for a store there in the past. Today we're gone because we learned or unearthed information that caused us to lose this hope and one by one we either quietly left or went out with an angry bang. Your wakeup call came earlier than mine, mine came earlier than a few others. Others got theirs as recently as days ago. As individuals we each have our own time limit for processing, sifting, accepting or rejecting information. Sorting out what matters and what doesn't to our personal situations.

By no means am I advocating that I agree with PS. I don't see her as a liar though - just that her logic has a few holes in it from our point of view. But, its her logic, her opinion, and she's entitled to it even though hearing it is frustrating for us. We've all stated many times that we do not wish the sellers on WP any harm. We've claimed that we support them and wish them the best while keeping our fingers crossed that they have their eyes wide open where WP is concerned. I'm still an advocate of these claims and I know you are too.

And directly in response to this line,

What amazes me about PS and Poppers like her is that they have NO PROBLEM aligning themselves with what appears to be a liar, con artist, and thief (in fact VOCIFEROUSLY defend him) as long as they get something out of it. What kind of ethics are those?

It's not that they don't have a problem with aligning themselves. They just don't see it as we do, they have no personal proof of it to drive it home. The twin towers come down and every American was devastated. They took is personally because if affected them directly. It disrupted their life. A hotel in Turkey gets blown up claiming thousands of lives. It's horrid but just an article to read in the next day's paper or watch on the 11:00 news before turning in for a good night's sleep. Because life in their sphere wasn't interrupted with the latter. Two horrible events presented as fact but the reaction to each was totally different.

Ray has not been stripped of his shiny skin therefore they can't see the poison percolating inside. And they won't until his fangs sink into them and make them sick. As we've hear in testimonials from many ex-poppers, that infectious bite can come at any time and for any reason that Ray feels is justification for mental, emotional or physical desertion of his philosophy. Totally unpredictable. When that happens and the shock wears off they'll remember our words. Beliefs are not necessarily a snapshot of someones ethics. Now this is just MHO but I needed to express it so my friends here can better understand how I see the human interaction in the present situation.

I hope I haven't offended anyone here.

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  witheyeswideopen

Nice to have you here. You are free to say whatever you want to here. No censorship on this forum. We would like to hear about your experience at Pop Land. So jump right in whenever you want.

[witheyeswideopen]

I currently have a store at Wagglepop, or Popland, as you call it. I do not wish to disclose my Wagglepop identity at this time. I know there are other lurkers who's eyes remain shielded and refuse to believe the truth. I do not want to suffer a backlash from them due to my posting here. Right now my Wagglepop store is actually profitable, though not as much as I would like, but I wish to move due to all the lies that have been revealed. I am actually in the process of moving my rather large store to another venue. The home page numbers not changing to reflect the loss of stores really bothers me. No matter what math you use, it does not add up. I had also often wondered about all of the sellers cheerleading attitudes on the Wagglepop's board. I did not realize there were other sellers with serious questions until I came here. I did not know about all of the board censorship. I guess I was never there to see posts disappear. I am never in the right place at the right time. I seriously believed I was the only one with questions about the way things were being run. There have been many other things I have learned through reading posts here, but these are the ones that stock out in my mind. I have been reading this post for a while. I don't really remember how I found it. I think it was from one of the other sites I frequent. Thanks for welcoming me. Now, I must return to moving inventory.

[let the truth be told]

[quote author=witheyeswideopen link=topic=3775.msg41873#msg41873 date=1170289745]
I currently have a store at Wagglepop, or Popland, as you call it. I do not wish to disclose my Wagglepop identity at this time. I know there are other lurkers who's eyes remain shielded and refuse to believe the truth. I do not want to suffer a backlash from them due to my posting here. Right now my Wagglepop store is actually profitable, though not as much as I would like, but I wish to move due to all the lies that have been revealed. I am actually in the process of moving my rather large store to another venue. The home page numbers not changing to reflect the loss of stores really bothers me. No matter what math you use, it does not add up. I had also often wondered about all of the sellers cheerleading attitudes on the Wagglepop's board. I did not realize there were other sellers with serious questions until I came here. I did not know about all of the board censorship. I guess I was never there to see posts disappear. I am never in the right place at the right time. I seriously believed I was the only one with questions about the way things were being run. There have been many other things I have learned through reading posts here, but these are the ones that stock out in my mind. I have been reading this post for a while. I don't really remember how I found it. I think it was from one of the other sites I frequent. Thanks for welcoming me. Now, I must return to moving inventory.
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witheyeswideopen,

I am so glad to here TT has helped open your eyes and drive home the reality of WP. Do yourself a favor and look around this entire site as the information provided here on TT is invaluable and will fill the gaps for any online seller. I hope your new venue provides you the sales your looking for and remember we are here to help in anyway we can.



let the truth be told
u1it4less - "it's all in the name.."
X-POP NATION, A real seller's network

[youroverheadbin]

[quote author=witheyeswideopen link=topic=3775.msg41873#msg41873 date=1170289745]
I currently have a store at Wagglepop, or Popland, as you call it. I do not wish to disclose my Wagglepop identity at this time. I know there are other lurkers who's eyes remain shielded and refuse to believe the truth. I do not want to suffer a backlash from them due to my posting here. Right now my Wagglepop store is actually profitable, though not as much as I would like, but I wish to move due to all the lies that have been revealed. I am actually in the process of moving my rather large store to another venue. The home page numbers not changing to reflect the loss of stores really bothers me. No matter what math you use, it does not add up. I had also often wondered about all of the sellers cheerleading attitudes on the Wagglepop's board. I did not realize there were other sellers with serious questions until I came here. I did not know about all of the board censorship. I guess I was never there to see posts disappear. I am never in the right place at the right time. I seriously believed I was the only one with questions about the way things were being run. There have been many other things I have learned through reading posts here, but these are the ones that stock out in my mind. I have been reading this post for a while. I don't really remember how I found it. I think it was from one of the other sites I frequent. Thanks for welcoming me. Now, I must return to moving inventory.
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[princessmirandajo]

[quote author=witheyeswideopen link=topic=3775.msg41864#msg41864 date=1170286952]
Hello,
This is my first post to this site. I have been a lurker for quite some time. I would like to say Thank You for opening this Wagglepoppers eyes.
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  welcome to TT!  Be sure to check out all the info in this wonderful place!!

[I want 1 2]

Lots of great info here. I just joined and wanted to say HI...

[racedream]

[quote author=witheyeswideopen link=topic=3775.msg41873#msg41873 date=1170289745]
I currently have a store at Wagglepop, or Popland, as you call it. I do not wish to disclose my Wagglepop identity at this time. I know there are other lurkers who's eyes remain shielded and refuse to believe the truth. I do not want to suffer a backlash from them due to my posting here. Right now my Wagglepop store is actually profitable, though not as much as I would like, but I wish to move due to all the lies that have been revealed. I am actually in the process of moving my rather large store to another venue. The home page numbers not changing to reflect the loss of stores really bothers me. No matter what math you use, it does not add up. I had also often wondered about all of the sellers cheerleading attitudes on the Wagglepop's board. I did not realize there were other sellers with serious questions until I came here. I did not know about all of the board censorship. I guess I was never there to see posts disappear. I am never in the right place at the right time. I seriously believed I was the only one with questions about the way things were being run. There have been many other things I have learned through reading posts here, but these are the ones that stock out in my mind. I have been reading this post for a while. I don't really remember how I found it. I think it was from one of the other sites I frequent. Thanks for welcoming me. Now, I must return to moving inventory.
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Don't post anything having to do with your store or your identity here. KaRay lurks here and KaRay will ban you from Pop Land for posting the truth here. It happened to me. I had been threatened with banishment for asking legitimate business questions. I quit posting there, was only posting here. Someone here made a comment to me, and within an hour, that comment was made to me in an email from KaRay with my final warning. With no further posts at Pop Land, no further communication from KaRay, and only posting here, within a few hours, I was banned from Pop Land. Coincidence? I think not.