Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

[UniqueSeller]

Platz - How is Dusty doing?



~Patti~

[scoop]

[quote author=UniqueSeller link=topic=3775.msg56579#msg56579 date=1181564080]
215 Stores Found......




~Patti~
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My guess is that the store count will drop below 200 after account review time rolls around if not before.   

[Platzki]

[quote author=UniqueSeller link=topic=3775.msg56581#msg56581 date=1181564308]
Platz - How is Dusty doing?



~Patti~
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Actually, he's doing pretty good.  He is still panting a lot but he seems to be pretty much back to normal.  He's not tripping over his own feet anymore, he's begging for people food and he's barking at the dog next door.  He's doing normal dog stuff again!!  LOL  Thanks for asking!!!!

Meows... I was not referring to your sexual innuendo!!  LOL  I was referring to the "seriously house dogs"... you naughty.... ROFL!!!!!

[Platzki]

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[quote author=UniqueSeller link=topic=3775.msg56579#msg56579 date=1181564080]
215 Stores Found......




~Patti~
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My guess is that the store count will drop below 200 after account review time rolls around if not before.      
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Morning Scoop... my opinion is that account reviews are over... they will try to keep as many stores open as possible. 

[scoop]

[quote author=Platzki link=topic=3775.msg56584#msg56584 date=1181564827]
[quote author=scoop link=topic=3775.msg56582#msg56582 date=1181564513]
[quote author=UniqueSeller link=topic=3775.msg56579#msg56579 date=1181564080]
215 Stores Found......




~Patti~
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My guess is that the store count will drop below 200 after account review time rolls around if not before.      
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Morning Scoop... my opinion is that account reviews are over... they will try to keep as many stores open as possible. 
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Good morning Platzki  you could be right about that Ray will have to figure something out so that store count doesn't go down too far.  I think there is already less than 200 real stores there right now based on reports of ghost stores by Sherrand.

[Alskling]

Good morning all. I've been trying to get back up to speed on the latest Poop. From the fog of rhetoric a ghostly image emerges -- it is the essence of Poopland -- a show about one person's personal quest for glory. For this reason alone, WP is, was and always will be doomed. Take the saga of "T", for example. Notice who was banned and who was not and why. Consider "T"'s position that he can do what he pleases and needn't cater to his customers.
Remember the famous quote from Ray?

Since I own the business, I'll do any damned thing I please.

If you can't handle that, then hit the bricks.

Ray

Do we have a match? You know what they say about "like minds."

I hate repeating myself, but this is a very long thread and I feel my post back on February 1 (prior to the big Grand Opening) deserves a revisit at this time for the post-Opening lurkers and recent defectors. It WON'T GET BETTER, FOLKS! Not now, not tomorrow, not EVER!

Designers Bargains, February 1, 2007

To PS and the rest of the jump-up-and-down    Poppers, if you're lurking, please pay attention.  

YOU ARE PART OF A GRAND DECEPTION. You are aiding and abeiting a con artist. This is not a noble cause. When we point something out to you that is in direct contradiction to common sense and black and white reality consider it a "heads up".

WHEN SELLERS CLOSE THEIR STORES AND LEAVE IN DROVES, . . . but Karen pops on the boards to announce how WP is "growing", do you not call this deceiving? Look beyond the Waggle dances, smiley faces, and "dynamic" histrionics. I double dare you to say NO to your daily Koolaid ration and toss out the Spam sandwich JUST ONCE as a test and watch what happens. Being part of this scam reflects poorly on you, your good judgment, and your ability to properly service your customers. I nearly lost a long, loyal customer due to Karen's horrific mismanagement. DO YOU WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO YOU? Just because you don't see funny people in pointy hats making incantations around a cauldron, does not mean you are not part of a cult-like process.

Ray is not your savior. WP is not your family. Ray can flush you down the    at any time he pleases. At least eBay has stockholders to answer to. Ray answers to NO ONE. It's his sandbox and he can throw sand in your face or kick you out of the box (in his words "hit the bricks") without warning. Is it like a bad marriage, where you have so much of your life invested that you don't want to give up? THINK! When current Poppers come to this board and have to hide behind a sock puppet to speak their mind for fear of retribution by Ray and his band of merry disciples who lurk here and report back like gestapo informants, DOES THAT NOT SEND A MESSAGE OF PARANOIA? Does that sound SANE to you? When Karen comes on the WP forums and threatens to bring the law down on you if you do not behave, IS THAT SANE? When you are told that IF YOU CLOSE YOUR STORE YOU WILL LOOSE ALL YOUR HARD-EARNED FEEDBACK and USER ID FOR LIFE, does that make sense? Especially when we all know it takes all of one minute to reinstate an account (a function of the software), why would KaRay have such a policy? TO CONTROL YOU!

Stop treating your business like it has no worth! Your business deserves better than empty promises and blind faith. It deserves respect. Take it to venues that have it together with features HERE and NOW. Stop with the pie-in-the-sky, pot-of gold-is-just-around-the-next-bend, and then the next, and next, wombat poo poo. Ray is deceiving you and you are deceiving yourself.
The cheerleading mantra goes like this, "I don't care what Ray's done in the past or whether he's a trained monkey, or what anybody says about listing counts, or bogus feedback, "pretend stores", or lies, or censorship, WP works for me, so I'm staying." Others here say "great" and wish you the best. I say crap. WP works for nobody. IT DOESN'T WORK, PERIOD. If a Popper has success, it's due to the Popper's efforts alone. Give credit where credit is due. Ray doesn't appreciate your hard work. He appreciates your monthly store fee -- period. All you are is a deposit into his PayPal account. You're a fool if you think otherwise.

If you want to stay Poppers, fine. BUT BE REAL. See Poopland for what it IS, not for what you think it could or should be, hopes to be, promises to be, pretends to be, or wants you to BELIEVE it to be. You are not part of RAY's business. You ARE Ray's business. He has a web site and boxed software, period, and he's counting on YOU to CREATE HIS BUSINESS. You are an employee who PAYS THE BOSS. THINK ABOUT IT!!!! Is that what you want for YOUR business?

Edited for bolds.

Long-haulers, listen up! Consider what you're hauling. Why the blind allegiance to Ray, his ego and his grandiose dreams of building his own little empire on your blood, sweat and tears? Have you no self-respect? No self-worth? Severe yourself from this joker and get on with your life.

[UniqueSeller]

WP has been a friendly community and the price cannot be beat. I didn't realize there was so much negativity here until Karen left. I guess I ignore those posts and apparently many of those posts are pulled before we see them (?)...

Newest on the Negativity thread. All posts that do not reflect well on WP or their CC's are pulled IMMEDIATELY. They do not want you to SEE the UNREST of these people. They want you to believe the site will get better and they want your money.

Face it Poppers - you could be doing yourself a greater justice by either opening an eCrater store or opening your own website. By staying at WP you are only jeopardizing your money, time effort and all your listings ... Find a new place and find a new place now.


~Patti~

[yowlsnhowls]

 Ooops. What can I blame THAT on, Platz? Surely not lack of sleep and stress!  


[quote author=Designers Bargains link=topic=3775.msg56586#msg56586 date=1181565432]

YOU ARE PART OF A GRAND DECEPTION. You are aiding and abeiting a con artist. This is not a noble cause. When we point something out to you that is in direct contradiction to common sense and black and white reality consider it a "heads up".

WHEN SELLERS CLOSE THEIR STORES AND LEAVE IN DROVES, . . . but Karen pops on the boards to announce how WP is "growing", do you not call this deceiving? Look beyond the Waggle dances, smiley faces, and "dynamic" histrionics. I double dare you to say NO to your daily Koolaid ration and toss out the Spam sandwich JUST ONCE as a test and watch what happens. Being part of this scam reflects poorly on you, your good judgment, and your ability to properly service your customers. I nearly lost a long, loyal customer due to Karen's horrific mismanagement. DO YOU WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO YOU? Just because you don't see funny people in pointy hats making incantations around a cauldron, does not mean you are not part of a cult-like process.

Ray is not your savior. WP is not your family. Ray can flush you down the     at any time he pleases. At least eBay has stockholders to answer to. Ray answers to NO ONE. It's his sandbox and he can throw sand in your face or kick you out of the box (in his words "hit the bricks") without warning. Is it like a bad marriage, where you have so much of your life invested that you don't want to give up? THINK! When current Poppers come to this board and have to hide behind a sock puppet to speak their mind for fear of retribution by Ray and his band of merry disciples who lurk here and report back like gestapo informants, DOES THAT NOT SEND A MESSAGE OF PARANOIA? Does that sound SANE to you? When Karen comes on the WP forums and threatens to bring the law down on you if you do not behave, IS THAT SANE? When you are told that IF YOU CLOSE YOUR STORE YOU WILL LOOSE ALL YOUR HARD-EARNED FEEDBACK and USER ID FOR LIFE, does that make sense? Especially when we all know it takes all of one minute to reinstate an account (a function of the software), why would KaRay have such a policy? TO CONTROL YOU!

Stop treating your business like it has no worth! Your business deserves better than empty promises and blind faith. It deserves respect. Take it to venues that have it together with features HERE and NOW. Stop with the pie-in-the-sky, pot-of gold-is-just-around-the-next-bend, and then the next, and next, wombat poo poo. Ray is deceiving you and you are deceiving yourself.

The cheerleading mantra goes like this, "I don't care what Ray's done in the past or whether he's a trained monkey, or what anybody says about listing counts, or bogus feedback, "pretend stores", or lies, or censorship, WP works for me, so I'm staying." Others here say "great" and wish you the best. I say crap. WP works for nobody. IT DOESN'T WORK, PERIOD. If a Popper has success, it's due to the Popper's efforts alone. Give credit where credit is due. Ray doesn't appreciate your hard work. He appreciates your monthly store fee -- period. All you are is a deposit into his PayPal account. You're a fool if you think otherwise.

If you want to stay Poppers, fine. BUT BE REAL. See Poopland for what it IS, not for what you think it could or should be, hopes to be, promises to be, pretends to be, or wants you to BELIEVE it to be. You are not part of RAY's business. You ARE Ray's business. He has a web site and boxed software, period, and he's counting on YOU to CREATE HIS BUSINESS. You are an employee who PAYS THE BOSS. THINK ABOUT IT!!!! Is that what you want for YOUR business?
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It was this post, DB, that got my butt to packing for good. All I can say is ... giga-THANKS!

[bratpack]

[quote author=meowsnbarks link=topic=3775.msg56588#msg56588 date=1181566358]
 Ooops. What can I blame THAT on, Platz? Surely not lack of sleep and stress!  


[quote author=Designers Bargains link=topic=3775.msg56586#msg56586 date=1181565432]

YOU ARE PART OF A GRAND DECEPTION. You are aiding and abeiting a con artist. This is not a noble cause. When we point something out to you that is in direct contradiction to common sense and black and white reality consider it a "heads up".

WHEN SELLERS CLOSE THEIR STORES AND LEAVE IN DROVES, . . . but Karen pops on the boards to announce how WP is "growing", do you not call this deceiving? Look beyond the Waggle dances, smiley faces, and "dynamic" histrionics. I double dare you to say NO to your daily Koolaid ration and toss out the Spam sandwich JUST ONCE as a test and watch what happens. Being part of this scam reflects poorly on you, your good judgment, and your ability to properly service your customers. I nearly lost a long, loyal customer due to Karen's horrific mismanagement. DO YOU WANT THAT TO HAPPEN TO YOU? Just because you don't see funny people in pointy hats making incantations around a cauldron, does not mean you are not part of a cult-like process.

Ray is not your savior. WP is not your family. Ray can flush you down the     at any time he pleases. At least eBay has stockholders to answer to. Ray answers to NO ONE. It's his sandbox and he can throw sand in your face or kick you out of the box (in his words "hit the bricks") without warning. Is it like a bad marriage, where you have so much of your life invested that you don't want to give up? THINK! When current Poppers come to this board and have to hide behind a sock puppet to speak their mind for fear of retribution by Ray and his band of merry disciples who lurk here and report back like gestapo informants, DOES THAT NOT SEND A MESSAGE OF PARANOIA? Does that sound SANE to you? When Karen comes on the WP forums and threatens to bring the law down on you if you do not behave, IS THAT SANE? When you are told that IF YOU CLOSE YOUR STORE YOU WILL LOOSE ALL YOUR HARD-EARNED FEEDBACK and USER ID FOR LIFE, does that make sense? Especially when we all know it takes all of one minute to reinstate an account (a function of the software), why would KaRay have such a policy? TO CONTROL YOU!

Stop treating your business like it has no worth! Your business deserves better than empty promises and blind faith. It deserves respect. Take it to venues that have it together with features HERE and NOW. Stop with the pie-in-the-sky, pot-of gold-is-just-around-the-next-bend, and then the next, and next, wombat poo poo. Ray is deceiving you and you are deceiving yourself.

The cheerleading mantra goes like this, "I don't care what Ray's done in the past or whether he's a trained monkey, or what anybody says about listing counts, or bogus feedback, "pretend stores", or lies, or censorship, WP works for me, so I'm staying." Others here say "great" and wish you the best. I say crap. WP works for nobody. IT DOESN'T WORK, PERIOD. If a Popper has success, it's due to the Popper's efforts alone. Give credit where credit is due. Ray doesn't appreciate your hard work. He appreciates your monthly store fee -- period. All you are is a deposit into his PayPal account. You're a fool if you think otherwise.

If you want to stay Poppers, fine. BUT BE REAL. See Poopland for what it IS, not for what you think it could or should be, hopes to be, promises to be, pretends to be, or wants you to BELIEVE it to be. You are not part of RAY's business. You ARE Ray's business. He has a web site and boxed software, period, and he's counting on YOU to CREATE HIS BUSINESS. You are an employee who PAYS THE BOSS. THINK ABOUT IT!!!! Is that what you want for YOUR business?
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It was this post, DB, that got my butt to packing for good. All I can say is ... giga-THANKS!
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Preach it Sista!  Can I get an Amen!!!!!!! 

[UniqueSeller]

AAAAAAAAAMMMMMMEEEENNN!!!!!



~Patti~