Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

[Alskling]

[quote author=PowerSeller link=topic=3775.msg72075#msg72075 date=1219528398]
[quote author=Designers Bargains link=topic=3775.msg72073#msg72073 date=1219523483]The problem, P.S., is you seem to be the only seller in the known universe who claims to be really making it on WP.[/quote]

Not by a long shot.  I'm just the only one who has wasted time trying to explain it to you.  Most sellers who are "really making it" on most sites don't ever bother to respond to forum whiners.
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So, I guess I can add "forum whiner" to my pseudonyms, as assigned by an "Angel" who is the head chearleader for a site where nothing but "positive" words are tolerated. Might that be considered hypocritical?

Oh, and I didn't see a response to these questions:

Why, then, were a few thousand other sellers, many of whom make more money in a day on other venues or through their own stores than you see in a month, and have years of experience in e-commerce, are not only language and program knowledgable, but know how to write both, have always had extremely profitable businesses, etc., were somehow incapable of being as successful as you claim to be on WP (as a small seller you say you are), especially since you did not have the benefit of such experience, knowledge and success with other venues and web sites? Some of the greatest minds in e-commerce were incapable of having the success on WP you claim to be having, yet many of them were not in the 30-60-90 crowd, but "founding members" who were there a very long time and invested a lot of time, energy and money. So don't say it was for
"impatience" or lack of trying.

And, more importantly, I'll ask this one AGAIN. Why, tell me why, are these same minds (along with a few thousand sellers who've been there done that on WP, and walked away in utter disgust) are somewhow unable to appreciate what a great guy Ray is, how fantastic his site is with all those wonderful features and outstanding opportunities, and how everything Ray does is for the unselfish benefit of his valued sellers, as you apparently have? We all are dying to find out what it is that endeared you to a guy we all think is a complete boinktard, sham, scam-artist, liar, supreme hypocrite, and the list goes on. And, by the way, the vast majority of "whiners" on this thread who are beyond redemption, came up with that opinion independently, as well as have a gazillion more on other threads. In fact, I think it's safe to say that "post whiners" as you call them, who are "making it" and, by the way, responding to posts such as yours, vastly outnumber that of sellers on WP capable of paying their monthly subscription dues. Regic, Maggy, Amy, Eclectica, Truth, RiverRat, Pet Guy, Jo, Valleygirl, to name a few.


You have really great items, and in my opinion, WP doesn't deserve you. Eat crow, kick the habit, start your own site and stop trying to defend the indefensible.

[PowerSeller]

[quote author=Designers Bargains link=topic=3775.msg72076#msg72076 date=1219534973]You have really great items, and in my opinion, WP doesn't deserve you. Eat crow, kick the habit, start your own site and stop trying to defend the indefensible.[/quote]

WP deserves to have tens of thousands of sellers with a lot more ability than I have.

I HAVE my own site.  NINE MONTHS of work so far, and it's not made a penny of profit yet (yes, I am very determined and will continue to work at it).  My WP store was nicely profitable within 2 weeks and continues to improve over time.  FYI, a personal website is a thousand times more difficult to get off the ground than a WP store.  Even if you can build the darn thing, if you aren't great at promoting or paying someone to do it for you, a website goes nowhere.

[Alskling]

Still didn't answer my questions, P.S. We're all still left wondering.

Oh, and that was one of the reasons for MY disgust at WP. Questions never answered. In fact, I was made to feel like a traitor and a troll for even asking them -- all questions deleted, account canceled. Maybe you and Ray deserve each other after all.

[PowerSeller]

[quote author=Designers Bargains link=topic=3775.msg72080#msg72080 date=1219542371]
Still didn't answer my questions, P.S.[/quote]

You don't listen to answers, and I'm done wasting my time.  I can't even read through your rants any longer.  It's all just meaningless endless  that meshes together into an unintelligible blob.

[bargainbloodhound]

I HAVE my own site.  NINE MONTHS of work so far, and it's not made a penny of profit yet

I'd start by getting rid of the AdSense ads at the top of the site, the Amazon widget sidebox, the Amazon bestsellers and large square AdSense ads in the center of the page, the Amazon, eBay, and Wagglepop banner ads at the bottom of the home page...and then I'd add more than 19 products.

If you cover your home page with ads that send visitors to competing sites you probably won't see much in the way of profits.  You have almost as many ads for competing sites as you do products. If you count the number of products advertised in those ads your competitors' products (almost) outnumber your own on your home page.

[PowerSeller]

[quote author=bargainbloodhound link=topic=3775.msg72082#msg72082 date=1219547561]I'd start by getting rid of the AdSense ads at the top of the site, the Amazon widget sidebox, the Amazon bestsellers and large square AdSense ads in the center of the page, the Amazon, eBay, and Wagglepop banner ads at the bottom of the home page...and then I'd add more than 19 products.

If you cover your home page with ads that send visitors to competing sites you probably won't see much in the way of profits.  You have almost as many ads for competing sites as you do products. If you count the number of products advertised in those ads your competitors' products (almost) outnumber your own on your home page.[/quote]

Understood, but the advertising is all there for a reason.  Because I am disabled and have other challenges beyond that, basic things that sellers have to do like physically handling inventory, packing, shipping, etc. are very hard for me to do much of.  That's why I'm trying to add in other streams of income with the advertising, affiliate stuff, dropship stuff, etc. in addition to what I can physically handle myself.  I'm aware that it needs tons more work including many more products and categories.  But thank you for taking a look, and I appreciate suggestions even though I won't always follow them.

I also need to figure out how to change the page titles (like to match the item titles).  That's a big oops now.

[bargainbloodhound]

That's why I'm trying to add in other streams of income with the advertising, affiliate stuff

Unless an ecommerce store has the traffic of an Amazon or Buy.com it'll probably lose more in potential sales (and customers) by showing competing ads than it'll gain from ad revenues.

AdSense is a complete waste for most low traffic small sites because Google doesn't issue a check until you've accumulated $100 in earnings...more than half of all sites with AdSense ads will never receive a dime from showing the ads due to that $100 minimum payout (the same thing is also true of many affiliate programsJ.

I also need to figure out how to change the page titles (like to match the item titles).

There are 3 ways to do it:
1. install a meta tags mod
2. install a SEO URLs mod

or

3. look through your files for this code:

Code:

<title><?php echo TITLE; ?></title>

and change it to:

Code:

<title><?php echo TITLE; ?> <?php echo substr(strip_tags($breadcrumb->trail(' » ')),20); ?></title>

[let the truth be told]

[quote author=PowerSeller link=topic=3775.msg72083#msg72083 date=1219548461]
I also need to figure out how to change the page titles (like to match the item titles).  That's a big oops now.
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That is the least of your problems IMO. You have basically broken every rule of thumb when it comes to running an independent website. The last thing you want is for a buyer to click to your site only to have to click again to go to the next site and maybe click again from there. The only thing they will be clicking on is the back button.

What makes this so sad is you have done nothing to promote your website and the SEO outdistances anything I have seen you post about your WP store by far, see link below.

http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=baby+treasures&go=&form=QBRE

IMO MSN is a bit more difficult than Google to get placement results like that but who am I to judge and I didn't check Google results.

FYI, take a trip back in time to Jan 07', we had similar sales at the time. Bronze to silver powerseller status with every door open to both of us in regards to online sales. The difference between us is I chose the correct doors while you stuck with the one with broken hinges and locks behind you. Today your door sits flapping in the breeze waiting for you to walk out and choose another, it appears as if it will be PH or one of the other doors leading to nowhere but a 20% or less seller retention rate (need proof of this? look at all the listings still sitting in imported items at PH, those sellers walked out that door long ago while you are stumbling to get in it).

Now because I don't have too much time due to sales that have occurred while posting this I would like to say Hi to everyone   and ask one or two question's of PS, so here goes:

#1 Why can't you switch your inventory from WP to your website? If you say you can't handle more due to disability's but how is it that you can handle only WP and tests at all these other lost cause, rinky dink, so called alternative wastes of time auction style sites? sorry that was a two parter!

#2 Where is the comparison sales report I was promised from October of 07'?


[quote author=PowerSeller link=topic=3775.msg72067#msg72067 date=1219513472]
[quote author=sneakymagenta link=topic=3775.msg72056#msg72056 date=1219474863]
Gold PS equivalent online sales- Eclectica <---doesn't sell on WP
Platinum PS equivalent online sales- jealous types Maggie, BBH/Amy, Truth, moi <---doesn't sell on WP
Titanium PS equivalent online sales- miscreant Valleygirl <---has never sold on WP or Ebay[/quote]

All would have benefitted from a WP store, so technically the answer to your question is YES. 
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Bolding mine:   Who'ed a thunk it  

For me that would be a big NO. No automated checkout, rediculos rules set up to mask the fact that WP is owned and operated out of Ray's basement, limited growth potential based on script choice and most of all guilt by association SEO.



Now back to your regularly scheduled what not to do when it comes to selling online reality show!!!


Let the Truth be Told

[PowerSeller]

[quote author=let the truth be told link=topic=3775.msg72085#msg72085 date=1219553331]What makes this so sad is you have done nothing to promote your website[/quote]

That's a ridiculous assumption to make and completely false.

and the SEO outdistances anything I have seen you post about your WP store by far, see link below.

http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=baby+treasures&go=&form=QBRE

IMO MSN is a bit more difficult than Google to get placement results like that

The website's listings are fed to MSN.  My WP listings are not.

edited to add: Ah, I see that MSN is picking up "baby" as it appears as the first word of every item title.  Every item title on my website is written that way.  Haven't tried that experiment yet on WP.  Great to know that it appears to be effective.

who am I to judge and I didn't check Google results.

The same Google search has my site at #5 and WP store at #7.

Why can't you switch your inventory from WP to your website?

1)  WP is where SALES are coming from.  I do not ever cut off branches of my business that are profitable.

2)  The website is being built very differently from the WP store as a much more focused baby website (rather than 'sell anything on earth that I can make money on').

[PowerSeller]

[quote author=bargainbloodhound link=topic=3775.msg72084#msg72084 date=1219551094]Unless an ecommerce store has the traffic of an Amazon or Buy.com it'll probably lose more in potential sales (and customers) by showing competing ads than it'll gain from ad revenues.

AdSense is a complete waste for most low traffic small sites because Google doesn't issue a check until you've accumulated $100 in earnings...more than half of all sites with AdSense ads will never receive a dime from showing the ads due to that $100 minimum payout (the same thing is also true of many affiliate programs).[/quote]

No biggie, I'll just continue to add products and promote until the ad revenues are more substantial. 

As far as affiliate stuff, I think in time I'm capable of generating far more traffic than I need for my own items.  I don't mind passing some sales along to other sellers when I still get a piece of the sale that I don't have to pack/ship/service, AND get to keep my product to use for attracting more visitors to the site.

Thank you very much for the info on page titles.  I tried the code change, but it still shows the store name when an item is clicked on.  Will try some mods some time when it isn't the middle of the night.