Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse?

**amy** · (This post was last modified: 08-25-2008, 12:47 AM by amy.)

Quote:One other thing you're off on, you're assuming that sales to 'new members' all consist of ONE item.

Ray was referring to 342 items not orders...hisÂ "left 121 feedbacks- a 35% feedback left rate" statement should have been your clue to that:

Quote:Those 503 new registered members made a total of 342 purchases and left 121 positive feedback (zero neutral, zero negative) - a 35% "feedback left" rate

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Quote:Average LISTING price does NOT equate to average SELLING price.

I was being generous when I said $10-$15. When you consider that most of the items sold by WP's largest jewelry/bead seller (DRM's heroine) and largest bookseller are well below $5 the site's average sales price probably isn't much above the sub $5 ASPs that are the norm on other eBay alt sites like Plunderhere, YourHighBid, etc.

xwpopper · (This post was last modified: 08-25-2008, 04:51 AM by xwpopper.)

[quote author=PowerSeller link=topic=3775.msg72094#msg72094 date=1219600861]

I've read The Pet Guy's posts and am glad that he's doing well (some of that is because he pays for AdWords). However, if he'd stayed on WP, his WP store would now be very far outperforming his eBay store and with a very small fraction of the fees. And I do know that he didn't sell "abolutely nothing" on Wagglepop since I personally bought well over $200. worth of products from him. It was a little disconcerting to see my hard-earned money brushed off as "absolutely nothing". The only reason why he didn't see more sales on WP is because WP sales come primarily through Google exposure, and he started delisting his items before the store even had a chance of being indexed in Google, let alone build up rank.

Quote:You obviously know how to market the WP store, and get people to shop there even with all the phone verification and invoicing handicaps, so imagine how terrific it could be without those?

Contrarywise, I'm not good at marketing, don't want to spend money on it, and have only spent real time doing it for my website, not the WP store. Wagglepop is a very easy site to get profitable sales on. The main requirements are showing up, listing stuff, KEEPING it listed, and not neglecting obvious mistakes like writing ineffective listing titles, etc.
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I was speaking of a Post Pet Guy made on WP after he had been open a couple months. He hadn't sold a thing. If you bought after that, then he wasn't brushing your purchases off. And, also, if any site can't index it's seller's stores in a few weeks, their SEO isn't very good. A site that is indexed should have new pages crawled no less than once weekly, and the site's SEO and pagerank will reflect the placement of the products in Google. Nothing takes months for a site that is constantly being crawled.

You may not believe you are good at marketing, but consider this...
Wagglepop has Phone verification for registration, as well as emails. They also force a new buyer to wait for an invoice from a seller, which many new buyers I remember saying it was worse than waiting for an auction to end. When people buy, they want to pay, not wait several hours, or until the next day to pay.
On an OSC website, you don't even have to register if you pay with Paypal Express or Google Checkout.
That is a huge advantage if you wanted to take off with it. And if you can market yourself so well with Wagglepop, there is no reason at all you can't do the same with your website. And if you would change the signature line in every listing to your website, I'd bet you would get the same amount of traffic and sales there if it was stocked. Then, get the SEO mod installed to show the product name in search results, and you'd be gold.

PowerSeller · 08-25-2008, 07:21 AM,

[quote author=xwpopper link=topic=3775.msg72108#msg72108 date=1219639714]
I was speaking of a Post Pet Guy made on WP after he had been open a couple months. He hadn't sold a thing. If you bought after that, then he wasn't brushing your purchases off.[/quote]

No, I started buying from him soon after he started listing. If I'm not mistaken, the listings weren't even UP for a few weeks. It was a very short time after they stocked the store that they started delisting everything. I remember being stunned that someone would do that much work only to turn around and immediately delete it.

Quote:And, also, if any site can't index it's seller's stores in a few weeks, their SEO isn't very good. A site that is indexed should have new pages crawled no less than once weekly, and the site's SEO and pagerank will reflect the placement of the products in Google. Nothing takes months for a site that is constantly being crawled.

It really can take a while for a store url to get indexed. My darn website took F O R E V E R. It was frustrating. I'd submitted the url the Google.......several weeks later it still wasn't indexed correctly. I think it took about 2 weeks after I was submitting all of the products to Google Base (about 2 months total) for Google to finally notice that it was there.

Quote:And if you can market yourself so well with Wagglepop, there is no reason at all you can't do the same with your website.

Thing is, I don't market myself well with Wagglepop. Marketing efforts have gone to the website except for a few places where I can list both. The WP store just came together so much more easily. I really am glad that I established roots there first.

sneakymagenta · 08-25-2008, 09:27 PM,

Quote:Marketing efforts have gone to the website

You're wasting your time marketing it because nobody is going to buy anything from that site until you
REMOVE THE ADS FROM IT <-----hint hint

bargainbloodhound · 08-26-2008, 12:55 AM,

PS at PSU Wrote:Wagglepop has fantastic Google placement, and I would classify it as MORE stable than any other site online.

***mandy*** · 08-26-2008, 11:45 AM,

[quote author=bargainbloodhound link=topic=3775.msg72125#msg72125 date=1219712155]

PS at PSU Wrote:Wagglepop has fantastic Google placement, and I would classify it as MORE stable than any other site online.

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A 92% drop in paying customers over the past 23 months earns Wagglepop the title of most stable site on the planet... Big Grin

sneakymagenta · 08-27-2008, 02:03 AM,

[quote author=mandy link=topic=3775.msg72129#msg72129 date=1219751107]
[quote author=bargainbloodhound link=topic=3775.msg72125#msg72125 date=1219712155]

PS at PSU Wrote:Wagglepop has fantastic Google placement, and I would classify it as MORE stable than any other site online.

[/quote]

A 92% drop in paying customers over the past 23 months earns Wagglepop the title of most stable site on the planet... Big Grin

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:cinqo2: :cinqo2:

Popper Lobotomy

Lobotomy, lobotomy, lobotomy, lobotomy!
Hey!

Karay did a job on me
Now I am a real sickie
Guess I'll have to break the news
That I got no mind to lose
All the rinky dink owners are in love with me
I'm a Popper lobotomy

Trolls and infiltrators are after me
Kool-aid keeps me happy
Now I guess I'll have to tell 'em
That I got no cerebellum
Gonna get my Ph.D.
I'm a Popper lobotomy

Lobotomy, lobotomy, lobotomy, lobotomy!
Ooo!

Karay did a job on me
Now I am a real sickie
Guess I'll have to break the news
That I got no mind to lose
All the rinky dink owners are in love with me
I'm a Popper lobotomy

**amy** · 08-27-2008, 07:20 PM,

[quote author=mandy link=topic=3775.msg72129#msg72129 date=1219751107]
[quote author=bargainbloodhound link=topic=3775.msg72125#msg72125 date=1219712155]

PS at PSU Wrote:Wagglepop has fantastic Google placement, and I would classify it as MORE stable than any other site online.

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A 92% drop in paying customers over the past 23 months earns Wagglepop the title of most stable site on the planet... Big Grin

[/quote]

None of the people who left were paying customers. Every single one of them was a deadbeat (and all of the departed were much less successful sellers than the remaining Poppers). Wagglepop is more stable than any site around because its excellent management team was able to reduce the number of deadbeats by 92% in just 23 months.

Confused

arcasm1:

sneakymagenta · 08-27-2008, 10:16 PM,

Oh look, somebody is spending their week spamming Wagglepop in the OnlineAuction.com forum at PSU

Quote: At Wagglepop, we do pay $29.95/month to sell on the site. In return for that, we get what I feel is the most effective site online to build a business on. It takes a LOT of money for a company to build and maintain a great site with great customer service.

My favorite:

Quote:Sites that charge will be a lot smaller than sites that don't because fewer sellers want to pay (forgetting that their most valuable asset is their TIME),

If that is true then explain why the 2 sites that charge the most also have the most sellers. Ebay and Amazon ring a bell jackass?

http://www.powersellersunite.com/about21...sc-30.html

PowerSeller · 08-28-2008, 12:42 AM,

[quote author=sneakymagenta link=topic=3775.msg72161#msg72161 date=1219875364]
If that is true then explain why the 2 sites that charge the most also have the most sellers. Ebay and Amazon ring a bell jackass?[/quote]

I was referring to ALTERNATIVES, jackass.