Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

[xwpopper]

We are pleased to announce that the bulk of Marketshare items and products will be furnished under an affiliate partner agreement with Amazon.com - one of the very most complete and vibrant product catalogs available online.

My 15 year old brother (I am MUCH older than many think!) setup an Amazon affiliate account for his blog, and Ray wants Poppers to get all excited about it?

Amazon.com listings under Marketshare will appear below (or secondary to) normal search and browse results as supplementary (though fully integrated) and all Marketshare purchases will gateway through the Amazon.com secure shopping cart.

So he inserted an aStore in the footer and wants a round of applause? 

Indeed, Marketshare and Marketplace items and products by default will "compete" - but they do that already whether here or in search engines or in the minds of potential buyers.

I Guess OPAFMG is gonna be a little ticked that he can't sell his mass volume of floormats now with competition!  ;D

[sneakymagenta]

We are pleased to announce that the bulk of Marketshare items and products will be furnished under an affiliate partner agreement with Amazon.com - one of the very most complete and vibrant product catalogs available online.

Mandy won the bet.  :blinkie: Wagglepop Marketshare will be a clone of TulipMarketShare

we feel strongly we will better serve all shoppers who visit Wagglepop and build a stronger reputation as a site worth visiting and shopping.

Hey Raytard, there are 2,000,000 other sites with Amazon affiliate products.  You're not going to create a destination site by filling it with the same crap that's already on 2,000,000 other sites

[regic]

Amazon.com listings under Marketshare will appear below (or secondary to) normal search and browse results as supplementary (though fully integrated)

He made a minor change to RScript's built-in eBay affiliate program support so it will pull in Amazon affiliate listings instead of eBay listings.  If you ever saw TheAuctionMan.net or Ewaey's Rscript sites then you already know what Marketshare will look like.

System Features

Include Ebay listings with images (optional)

edit: RScript's integrated "Marketshare" worked wonders for both TheAuctionMan and Ewaey arcasm1:

[bargainbloodhound]

He made a minor change to RScript's built-in eBay affiliate program support so it will pull in Amazon affiliate listings instead of eBay listings.

If you ever saw TheAuctionMan.net or Ewaey's Rscript sites then you already know what Marketshare will look like.

Wrong! Modifying the existing code would have provided seamless integration and contextual listings but he didn't do that because making the "minor change" would have meant spending money for a programmer.  Instead he went the free halfassed route and...

inserted an aStore in the footer

It's amazing that it took him 9 months to insert this bit of code in the footer

Code:

<div align="center">
  <center>
  <table border="0" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0" width="100%">

    <tr>
      <td width="100%" bgcolor="#206BA2"><font size="4">&nbsp;<font face="Arial" color="#FFFFFF">Wagglepop
        Marketshare</font></font></td>
    </tr>
  </table>
  </center>
</div>


<div align="center">
  <center>

  <table border="0" cellpadding="2" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
    <tr>
      <td width="11%" bgcolor="#E7E4D0"></td>
      <td width="89%" bgcolor="#E7E4D0">
<iframe src="http://astore.amazon.com /wagglepop-20" width="100%" height="1000" frameborder="0" scrolling="yes"></iframe>
</td>
    </tr>
  </table>
  </center>
</div>

How can he even call inserting an Ashop in an iframe "full integration" when the products shown aren't  contextual?  :blinkie:

we are counting on membership support for Marketshare - intended to supplement not only site revenues but the overall site seller/shopper dynamic.

He'll be lucky if he makes an extra $10 monthly in commissions.  We use Amazon's affiliate program to populate the search results on the shopping tab of one of our metasearch engines (see example here ...unlike WP's Astore Marketshare, our Amazon product listings are contextual and actually integrated) and in January we made a whopping $28 in commissions

EDIT:

my editing keys don't work with TT any more. How can I fix that?

The new version of SMF we installed a few weeks ago uses a WYSIWYG editor so if you copy and paste from WP it should show up in your post with all formatting intact.

[regic]

Wrong!

It wasn't live yet when I posted.  I can't believe he just embedded an aShop.

[Alskling]

BBH:

Maybe I didn't make myself clear. NONE of my editing functions work with TT any more -- not the "delete" key, no "control C" / "control V" (copy-paste), highlight and replace -- nothing. If I make a mistake in typing, I have to highlight and retype over. If I want to delete, I have to highlight and hit the space key. The only way I could do a copy and paste of the WP announcement was to take a screen shot and paste in. If this is a singular issue with me, you can just PM me with any suggestions, so I don't hijack this thread. 

ANd now, on topic:

Can anybody explain to me EXACTLY how this great "marketshare" program with Amazon is supposed to benefit WP sellers? (or buyers, of which there are none). I confess I have no clue how it works, how it's supposed to work, how it's supposed to look and what the whole big whoop is about.

[xwpopper]

I had my best month with my Amazon account in December... A whopping $3! I only got that because a fried apparently bought a bunch of stuff from Amazon after going through one of my blogs to get to it. I finally got a commission payment from 8 months since I had $10.20 in my account. That's from about half as many visitors in 8 months to my different blogs and sites that have Amazon affiliate links that Ray gets in a month. So, Ray can expect about $10.20 every 2 weeks from his fabulous aStore... Maybe he'll buy a new junk car on eBay?  ;D

Andray:

By convention affiliate items and products are not included in any Google product feeds such as Google Base, for example. Correspondingly, Wagglepop Marketshare listings would also not be included...

Actually, they are in Google Base/Shopping directly from Amazon...

Should Marketshare prove a success (in one its many definitions) we have an alternate software integration queued for use that makes every partner listing indexable. However, as this software is extremely resource intensive it cannot be the initial solution - rather, a solid "upgrade" at a point in the future.

So, success is defined by many different poppers to be?

[amy]

the overall site seller/shopper dynamic

we feel strongly we will better serve all shoppers who visit Wagglepop and build a stronger reputation as a site worth visiting and shopping.

The embedded Astore might convert some Wagglepop visitors into AMAZON customers but it definitely won't strengthen Wagglepop's reputation.  If anything, the Afooterstore will lower buyer trust in Wagglepop as a reputable auction site.  He would have been much better off using FloorMatGuy's DSDI middleman (but that would have required some work/actual selling on Ray's part unlike the Astore).

[Alskling]

I know I'm dense, but I absolutely cannot understand how WP's marketshare the way it's set up can benefit buyers or sellers.

Let's say I'm a buyer looking for a Wii console. A search on WP produces nothing. What I see at the bottom of the screen is the Amazon marketshare showing back packs and camera cases, but still no Wii. Since the program is not integrated, how in the world will it help me find results to my search? Why would I even bother to do another search through WP's marketshare click-thru to Amazon , when all I have to do is go to Amazon directly and find lots of Wii consoles for sale? It sure doesn't instill any trust in WP. Ray might as well be saying, "Yeah, we know our site sucks and we have nothing to offer, so why not try Amazon instead?"

Now let's say I'm a WP seller. A buyer comes looking for an item I don't have listed and by chance decides to do a search away from WP via the AMazon marketshare and finds the item he/she wants, thus becoming an Amazon customer, who will remain an Amazon customer and will have no reason whatsoever to go back to WP to search for another non-existent product. 

I seriously have no clue how marketshare in its present form can possibly be of any benefit to a buyer who is apparently lost in cyber-space and happens to stumble onto WP, or to any of WP's sellers. Fact is, it DOESN'T. Just more BS. Again, Ray proves all he really cares about is $$ he can make with no effort and for as long as he can milk another remake of his ongoing smoke and mirror, dog and pony show, and couldn't give a rat's ass about buyers or if his sellers make a dime. Is this Ray's pathetic attempt at trying to create value out of thin air for WP with the intention of approaching Amazon some time in the future will a deal to sell? What's amazing to me is that after all the incarnations, promises of milk and honey that materialize as curds and battery acid and empty pots of golden showers beyond the rainbow , there are still "long-haulers" who are buying into his crap.

[xwpopper]

Popper:

OK folks - you heard it! If you are an Amazon shopper like me, we need to shop through the WP portal if at all possible. Our founder sunk his life savings to keep this boat afloat, and every little bit helps.

He sunk about $2000 into the site, then $100 of your money each month for the server.

 

I'm off to see if I can't be the first one to try this baby out. I have a couple Easter pressies in mind for the kiddo, and I they weren't on Wagglepop yesterday.... let's see if they show up on Marketplace.

Well DUH! It is Amazon with 50 million products. By the way, it's Market-SHARE.

Later...

Wow, was that easy or what? I just searched for an item, it popped me over to Amazon and it didn't ask me to sign in until I was ready to check out. I had an item in my saved cart, which was perfect to add on to get my free shipping -- wonder if WP gets credit for the 2nd item?
  But anyhow, it worked easy, easy, easy -- and very fast. Didn't notice any kind of lag or weirdness like some portals. 

Yeah, because it isn't a portal... It's Amazon. It's on their server. It costs nothing. Get a clue! He can setup 100 of them on the same account that look exactly the same as millions of others with no lag because they are hosted by Amazon.

PFL's (Poppers For Life) are totally clueless about anything outside Wagglepop.