PlunderHere and AlsoShop: A Web of Privacy Violations, Backstabbing, and Deceit

[xwpopper]

I don't know too many people in the rinky dink world who would waste such valuable signature characters on a site they don't own... 

[xwpopper]

S Ray's listing padding account is having some problems. 2 buyers now had problems with the shipping costs being higher than he originally said, yet Mo's skillet hasn't been wielded yet? Oh, that's right, you can't smack the boss. 

http://www.alsoshop.com/user_reputation.php?user_id=222

Transaction not completed. Auction showed one shipping price which for multiple purchases would be 15.00 media mail for 5 books. Then when invoice was received it showed 25.00 for media mail shipping for 5 books. So I canceled transaction.

charged 7.50 for mailing two books paid 2.58 Negative removed due to seller's terms being posted.

Rinky Dink rule #1
When using Wagglepop-like phantom listing padding accounts, you must always run it like it is real as not to draw too much attention.
Rinky Dink rule #2
When using AQ-like listing padding accounts, you must always be sure to delete it from the site that you used to own before using it on the site you now own.
http://www.auctionquests.com/user_reputa..._id=102763

[LittleOnlineStore]

Tend to one, they don't even have the books they list. That would be my bet. Maybe she should add some comment in the item detail that it's not a "for real" listing and is just to pad the numbers.

Well, the more negs bookz gets the less likely others will make purchases, so maybe she should leave them. Wow, that ASS site is full of sht.....LOL Yes, I know I will regret that one day

[bargainbloodhound]

phantom listing padding accounts

I really hope that is a phantom listing account and that there isn't actually a real bookseller who would be dumb enough to list at ASs and AQ while ignoring Amazon, Alibris, Abe, Biblio, A1Books, Half, Buy, etc.  Media is one of the few categories where very viable off-eBay alternative venues have existed for years that a seller can use to completely replace, or even surpass, their eBay income.

[bargainbloodhound]

Plunderhere hit sellers with a surprise fee hike. 
http://www.plunderhere.com/forums/showth...hp?t=14952

The new fee structure:

From 0.01 USD To 0.99 USD 0.05 USD
From 1.00 USD To 9.99 USD 0.50 USD
From 10.00 USD To 49.99 USD 1.00 USD
From 50.00 USD To 99.99 USD 3.00 USD
From 100.00 USD To 999.99 USD 5.00 USD
From 1,000.00 USD To 9,999.00 USD 10.00 USD
From 10,000.00 USD To 99,999.00 USD 25.00 USD
From 100,000.00 USD To 999,999.00 USD 50.00 USD

The average sales price on the site is well under $4 so the average sale will result in the seller paying a higher FVF % than they would at eBay or Amazon

maybe we need to refresh on what it takes to have an ebay store...we aren't asking for 3-10 cent insertion fees and 12% FVF's here....

Fees on the sale of gently soiled children's clothing using the eBay figures Nisan quoted:

$1 sale: eBay $0.15-$0.22 PH $0.50
$2 sale: eBay $0.27-$0.34 PH $0.50
$3 sale: eBay $0.39-$0.46 PH $0.50


The site claims to have announced the fee hike on June 29th

When did this new fee structure start? I do not recall getting notice of it.

An annoucement was posted within the members area in June 29th.

6/29 - Phone Verification

Some notes about phone verification and the $5 fee.

1) If you are already verified you do not owe any fees.
2) We have no listings fees or closing fees for items under $2000 until august.
3) Our goal is to provide a safe community to trade in
4) We value you as a customer and hope to make your time here enjoyable!
5) This is our site, meaning the we, the users of the site make it what it is.
6) if your situation calls for a free phone verification please email us and let us know.

That is exactly what is showing up on the announcements for that specific day. And, oh yes it is. I copied it directly from the date you said. And, no I did not miss it because it is not there.

Yes, thats the one.

2) We have no listings fees or closing fees for items under $2000 until august.

Specifically the line as annotated above.

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In other Plunderhere news....0 items listed on Google Base/Product Search

[sneakymagenta]

Yes, thats the one.

2) We have no listings fees or closing fees for items under $2000 until august.

Specifically the line as annotated above.

Imagine the reaction if Ebay announced a fee hike that way.

From 1.00 USD To 9.99 USD 0.50 USD

Bidboink is such a comedian. 50% FVFs. 

In other Plunderhere news....0 items listed on Google Base/Product Search

A small sampling of sites whose feeds are marked return to sender by the guards at the Googleplex gates: onlineauction.com, yourhighbid.com, usiff.com, wigix.com, epier.com, blujay.com (only 1,450 googleplexed out of 575,000 items), hibidder.com, ubidright.com, milbid.com, naughtybids.com :blinkie: , auctions8.com, webstore.com webidz.com (only 219 listed out of 172,000), overnightauctions.com, wensy.com

I see a lot of PHP Pro Bid sites using buggy fisherman mods on that list. His current scam ASs is one of the few Pro Bid sites on Google Product Search.  Did boobytrapped fisherman mods play a part in the other sites not being indexed? 

Venues you won't read much about on >>>insert name of any OAI forum full of rinky dink cheerleaders here<<< that are represented well on Googleplex Products: NewEggMall 627,000 items, GoDaddy Marketplace 43,000, Stootsi 150,000, Buy 2,500,000, Alibris 5,200,000, GEMM 306,000, Bidtopia 2,700 AUCTION (not fixed price) items

[xwpopper]

Bidtopia 2,700 AUCTION (not fixed price) items

You mean that the techy guru of aSs is wrong?

1. A buy it now price. Googlebase requires all items that are submitted to have a 'fixed price' type. A buy it now option does qualify as a 'fixed price' type, so make sure yours has one. If it does not, it will not be included in the feed for submission.

http://www.alsoshop.com/community/showthread.php?t=1085

[maggie777]

  His current scam ASs is one of the few Pro Bid sites on Google Product Search.

Alsoshop has 21,000 items on Base and probably 15,000 violations of the Base TOS for falsely stating the condition of "gently used" and "used: good" items as "new" in their feed. 

[amy]

Plunderhere and Alsoshop have both added new categories and subcategories

http://www.plunderhere.com/From-other-venues-4859.htm
http://www.alsoshop.com/From-other-Venue...categories

Category: From other venues

Subcategories
» Atomic Mall
» Blujay
» Bonanzle
» eCrater
» Etsy
» iOffer

[regic]

[quote author=amy link=topic=9139.msg74997#msg74997 date=1251423657]
Plunderhere and Alsoshop have both added new categories and subcategories

http://www.plunderhere.com/From-other-venues-4859.htm
http://www.alsoshop.com/From-other-Venue...categories

Category: From other venues

Subcategories
» Atomic Mall
» Blujay
» Bonanzle
» eCrater
» Etsy
» iOffer

[/quote]

Maybe someone should clue the fucktards in that using a registered trademark owned by one of your competitors (Etsy) to sell products, which is what they're doing by using the word 'Etsy' as a category, is going to result in Etsy hitting them and the boinktard mod maker with trademark infringement lawsuits...and guess what idiots, fake LLCs do not offer any protection from liability in a real court room.

The trademark on the word Etsy covers online auction services and practically every other aspect of ecommerce from use on sites with 3rd party sellers to use on sites offering feedback systems..

ETSY
Goods and Services IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: computerized on-line ordering featuring general merchandise and general consumer goods; exchange services, namely bartering general merchandise and general consumer goods of others; providing an on-line commercial information directory; providing a searchable database in the field of business information available via a global computer network; providing a searchable on-line advertising guide featuring the goods and services of other on-line vendors; database management services; advertising services, namely providing advertising in the nature of on-line and electronic classified directories; electronic auction services via the internet; on-line auction services; providing a website featuring evaluative feedback and product ratings of consumer services of others in the field of rating sellers' goods and services, the value and prices of sellers' goods and services, buyers' and sellers' performance, delivery, and overall experience in connection therewith. FIRST USE: 20050601. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20050601

Etsy also has 2 other registered trademarks on the word 'Etsy" - all of them apply to ecommerce sites like PH and ASs.

I'm breaking out the popcorn to watch the fucktards squeal when the C&Ds arrive.
:popcorneaters: