PlunderHere and AlsoShop: A Web of Privacy Violations, Backstabbing, and Deceit

[xwpopper]

[quote author=mandy link=topic=9139.msg73091#msg73091 date=1224841735]

We have added a system in place whereby all unverified buyers will
not be able to immediately use the 'Buy it Now' feature unless ID verified
due to some unscrupulous users just buying out a load of items and
not paying.

http://www.plunderhere.com/content_pages.php?page=news&topic_id=62
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That never happens on my shopping carts... Oh, that's right, It only happens on sites that don't have an easy instant checkout.

[amy]

Buyer verification happens with many of my sales but my buyers don't know it.  ;D ...and most importantly their path through the checkout process isn't slowed down by our fraud checking.  The PayPal verification that rinky dinks like Plunderhere do is basically useless as a fraud deterrent.

[sneakymagenta]

OMFG! Satan Worshiping Fornicators Are Selling LINGERIE on Blujay!!!

Does plunderhere allow this ??............

..........bla bla bla........i haven't had any in years............bla bla bla

http://www.blujay.com/?page=ad&adid=1720300&cat=6060406&keywords= <--peek-a-boo mesh teddy listing
http://www.blujay.com/?page=ad&adid=2389465&cat=5001000 <---fishnet bodystocking with halter listing
http://www.blujay.com/?page=ad&adid=2384902&cat=5001000 <---black lace garterbelt with stockings listing

http://www.powersellersunite.com/post-21...tml#215071

Plunderhere owner Mark Taylor responds

We certainly have zero tolerance for any auctions that are not tasteful
and do not allow adult orientated listings.
We have a dedicated team of users known as the 'Plunder Patrol' who
scour the site looking for such listings as we intend to remain as a
family friendly place to buy and sell.

Hope that helps
Mark

Let me see if I understand this  Plunderhere doesn't allow lingerie auctions but it does allow:

1. The sale of Nazi articles by members of racist hate groups
2. It allows criminals to violate US federal laws and infringe on the intellectual property rights of others by selling knockoff  handbags, cell phones, watches, and more
3. It promotes itself using videos made by its admin that are in violation of the DMCA law  and which violate the copyright and IP rights of the songwriters whose songs were used in its commercial videos without their permission
4. it allows coupon auctions even though the legality of selling coupons is questionable
5. it allows the sale of used ("like new") children's underwear

summary: if you want to sell something legal (lingerie) PlunderIPRightsHere is not the place for you. If you want to sell items that violate intellectual property laws or items that promote the hatred of a race/religion/ethnic group then Mark Taylor and PromoteRacismHere will welcome you with open arms and look the other way as you break the law with your "tasteful" fake Gucci handbags and celebrate hatred with your "family friendly" Swastika adorned items.

[BellisimaJ.]

Let me see if I understand this  icon_scratch Plunderhere doesn't allow lingerie auctions but it does allow:

1. The sale of Nazi articles by members of racist hate groups
2. It allows criminals to violate US federal laws and infringe on the intellectual property rights of others by selling knockoff  handbags, cell phones, watches, and more
3. It promotes itself using videos made by its admin that are in violation of the DMCA law  and which violate the copyright and IP rights of the songwriters whose songs were used in its commercial videos without their permission
4. it allows coupon auctions even though the legality of selling coupons is questionable
5. it allows the sale of used ("like new") children's underwear

summary: if you want to sell something legal (lingerie) PlunderIPRightsHere is not the place for you. If you want to sell items that violate intellectual property laws or items that promote the hatred of a race/religion/ethnic group then Mark Taylor and PromoteRacismHere will welcome you with open arms and look the other way as you break the law with your "tasteful" fake Gucci handbags and celebrate hatred with your "family friendly" Swastika adorned items.

Yeah, I would definitely have to say that lingerie is much less "family friendly" and "tasteful" than concentration camp armbands worn by victims of the holocaust. At least they are if you are trying to celebrate the formerly fascist state of Germany, the death of millions of innocent men, women, and children, and the sociopathy behind the whole thing. Good job, Mark.



I always did think that taking my child to movies containing the gratuitous violence that so many fundie types seem to enjoy was so much better than allowing him to view the nude human body.  arcasm1:

[amy]

OMFG! Satan Worshiping Fornicators Are Selling LINGERIE on Blujay!!!

prude labels Blujay lingerie listings  porn

I guess that makes me a porn selling Satan worshipping fornicator too.  I have 613 lingerie items for sale on one of my websites. 

[xwpopper]

Plunderhere now allows any guest to view any forum member's IP address.
http://www.plunderhere.com/forums/showth...hp?t=11975
And I thought the non protected "bbclone" script on all of Ray's sites (bidhopper, AQ, aSs) was bad.

IP Addresses are considered Personally Identifiable Information, Mark. A hacker with half a brain and a basic understanding of local IP addresses can take his pick of thousands you openly expose, and remotely access and attack any computer that doesn't have the protection from his attack. Way to secure the site, moron. I guess your "tech guys" and moderators really are smarty pants now for letting you do this.

[mandy]

[quote author=xwpopper link=topic=9139.msg73218#msg73218 date=1226300454]
Plunderhere now allows any guest to view any forum member's IP address.
http://www.plunderhere.com/forums/showth...hp?t=11975
And I thought the non protected "bbclone" script on all of Ray's sites (bidhopper, AQ, aSs) was bad.

IP Addresses are considered Personally Identifiable Information, Mark. A hacker with half a brain and a basic understanding of local IP addresses can take his pick of thousands you openly expose, and remotely access and attack any computer that doesn't have the protection from his attack. Way to secure the site, moron. I guess your "tech guys" and moderators really are smarty pants now for letting you do this.
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Map of the PlunderStars courtesy of Plunderhere owner Mark Taylor's total disregard for the security of his users 

Mark "Superdeals" Taylor, Plunderhere owner:
IP: 60.52.80.234
also: 60.52.21.25, 60.52.53.171
IP address:                     60.52.80.234
Reverse DNS:                    52.60.in-addr.arpa.tm.net.my.
Reverse DNS authenticity:       [Could be forged: hostname 52.60.in-addr.arpa.tm.net.my. does not exist]
ASN:                            4788
ASN Name:                       TMNET-AS-AP (TM Net, Internet Service Provider)
IP range connectivity:          2
Registrar (per ASN):            APNIC
Country (per IP registrar):     MY [Malaysia]
Country Currency:               MYR [Malaysia Ringgits]
Country IP Range:               60.52.0.0 to 60.53.255.255
Country fraud profile:          High
City (per outside source):      Petaling Jaya, Selangor
Country (per outside source):   MY [Malaysia]
Private (internal) IP?          No
IP address registrar:           whois.apnic.net
Known Proxy?                    No

and
IP address:                     60.52.53.171
Reverse DNS:                    52.60.in-addr.arpa.tm.net.my.
Reverse DNS authenticity:       [Could be forged: hostname 52.60.in-addr.arpa.tm.net.my. does not exist]
ASN:                            4788
ASN Name:                       TMNET-AS-AP (TM Net, Internet Service Provider)
IP range connectivity:          2
Registrar (per ASN):            APNIC
Country (per IP registrar):     MY [Malaysia]
Country Currency:               MYR [Malaysia Ringgits]
Country IP Range:               60.52.0.0 to 60.53.255.255
Country fraud profile:          High
City (per outside source):      Kuala Lumpur, Wilayah Persekutuan
Country (per outside source):   MY [Malaysia]
Private (internal) IP?          No
IP address registrar:           whois.apnic.net
Known Proxy?                    No

Wikipedia reference to this IP: http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perbincanga....52.53.171



Spencer G "binarywebs" Ray, former Plunderhere 'techspert'/ Alsoshop techy guru/ Stay Tuned Fishing Charters / mod maker for numerous phpProBid sites
IP: 72.185.223.77
IP address:                     72.185.223.77
Reverse DNS:                    cpe-72-185-223-77.tampabay.res.rr.com.
Reverse DNS authenticity:       [Verified]
ASN:                            10994
ASN Name:                       TAMPA2-TWC-5
IP range connectivity:          2
Registrar (per ASN):            ARIN
Country (per IP registrar):     US [United States]
Country Currency:               USD [United States Dollars]
Country IP Range:               72.176.0.0 to 72.191.255.255
Country fraud profile:          Normal
City (per outside source):      Tampa, Florida
Country (per outside source):   US [United States]
Private (internal) IP?          No
IP address registrar:           whois.arin.net
Known Proxy?                    No

Google search of this IP: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c2coff=1&safe=off&q=72.185.223.77&btnG=Search

Browser and operating system used by this IP:
2 User Agents found for 72.185.223.77:  
Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30; Alexa Toolbar; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.648)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008070208 Firefox/3.0.1


Nisan, Plunderhere Star team/head tech , "codemaster" responsible for coding/technical maintenance/security on the PH site:
IP: 69.8.2.9
IP address:                     69.8.2.9
Reverse DNS:                    marauder.brightok.net.
Reverse DNS authenticity:       [Verified]
ASN:                            8025
ASN Name:                       BRIGHTOK-AS
IP range connectivity:          0
Registrar (per ASN):            ARIN
Country (per IP registrar):     US [United States]
Country Currency:               USD [United States Dollars]
Country IP Range:               69.8.0.0 to 69.8.127.255
Country fraud profile:          Normal
City (per outside source):      Sulphur, Oklahoma
Country (per outside source):   US [United States]
Private (internal) IP?          No
IP address registrar:           whois.arin.net
Known Proxy?                    No

Thanks to Marktard exposing IP addresses, I was able to verify that the Nisan C. who registered Alsoshop.org on September 7th 2008 (and like a fool forgot to make the WHOIS private until the next day) lives in the same town as Plunderhere's Nisan...

FYI, according to WHOIS history for Alsoshop.org and Bidwhale.com, the Nisan C. who registered Alsoshop.org is the same clown who used to own former boinktard of the week award winner auction site Bidwhale back in 2005. 

EDIT:

A hacker with half a brain and a basic understanding of local IP addresses can take his pick of thousands you openly expose, and remotely access and attack any computer that doesn't have...

For the past 2 months, any hacker with half a brain could also have used the exploit code published here and on numerous security advisory sites to gain direct database access to all personal information of any user of any phpProBid site, including Plunderhere and Alsoshop, due to the still unpatched security hole which exists in phpProBid.

[BellisimaJ.]

[quote author=xwpopper link=topic=9139.msg73218#msg73218 date=1226300454]
Plunderhere now allows any guest to view any forum member's IP address.
http://www.plunderhere.com/forums/showth...hp?t=11975
And I thought the non protected "bbclone" script on all of Ray's sites (bidhopper, AQ, aSs) was bad.

IP Addresses are considered Personally Identifiable Information, Mark. A hacker with half a brain and a basic understanding of local IP addresses can take his pick of thousands you openly expose, and remotely access and attack any computer that doesn't have the protection from his attack. Way to secure the site, moron. I guess your "tech guys" and moderators really are smarty pants now for letting you do this.
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:blinkie: :blinkie: :blinkie:

[mandy]

Here's an interesting 3rd quarter sales comparison of 2 auction sites 

Bidz: $55,400,000
AlsoShop: $2,400

FYI-  a one-person US household earning poverty level wages grossed  $2,697 in Q3 - an eBay Bronze powerseller grossed $3,000 - the average AlsoShop storeowner grossed $40 in Q3. 

[bargainbloodhound]

Plunderhere has branched out from copyright infringing videos to violating eBay's registered federal trademark "Power Sellers" (yes Marktard, eBay has a trademark on the use of the phrase "Power Sellers" when it is used in connection with auction services like you are using it)

Power Seller Status Added

Well, for all you lucky sellers who have achieved 250 sales,
not feedback's you will now see the Prestigious logo beside
each listing.

Power Sellers will get additional promotions and advertising from
time to time as a reward for their huge amount of work put in to
achieve this. 

http://www.plunderhere.com/forums/showth...hp?t=12674

eBay's registered "Power Sellers" trademark:

  Word Mark  POWER SELLERS
Goods and Services IC 035. US 100 101 102. G & S: Providing customer support services concerning online account management and use of online services. FIRST USE: 19990600. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19990600

IC 042. US 100 101. G & S: Providing dedicated technical assistance in the field of account management and use of online services. FIRST USE: 19990600. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19990600
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 76234220
Filing Date April 2, 2001
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1A
Published for Opposition August 20, 2002
Registration Number 2648557
Registration Date November 12, 2002
Owner (REGISTRANT) eBay Inc. CORPORATION DELAWARE 2145 Hamilton Avenue San Jose CALIFORNIA 95125
Type of Mark  SERVICE MARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE

eBay's lawyers will no doubt also be screaming copyright infringement after seeing Plunderhere's new Power Seller logo which is a blue man inside a yellow star with the words "power" written in red and "seller" written in blue (sound familiar?)
http://www.plunderhere.com/imgs/power_seller.gif
http://pics.ebaystatic.com/aw/pics/es/ic..._50x25.gif