Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse? You do not have permission to vote in this poll. |
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Paid Feebay Employees With An Agenda | 1 | 1.64% | |
Infiltrators | 0 | 0% | |
Trolls | 0 | 0% | |
Naysayers | 1 | 1.64% | |
Morally Bankrupt Miscreants | 3 | 4.92% | |
Upstream Providers | 0 | 0% | |
Jealous Types | 1 | 1.64% | |
Deadbeats | 1 | 1.64% | |
Ray Romeo | 40 | 65.57% | |
Ray Romeo\'s Alter Ego KaRay | 10 | 16.39% | |
Wagglepop CEO Ray Romeo Listing Items On eBay In His eBay Store Instead Of Listing On His Own Site | 4 | 6.56% | |
Total | 61 vote(s) | 100% |
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Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
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07-30-2007, 10:23 PM,
Post: #16441
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=eclectica link=topic=3775.msg62925#msg62925 date=1185825134]
[quote author=ironwood_etc link=topic=3775.msg62922#msg62922 date=1185818255] My question remains. What are they afraid of?? :blinkie: [/quote] Just a wild stab in the dark guess... the ones left (and active) have formed friendships. To leave, would mean siding with us - "the enemy". Consciously or unconsciously, I think the fear is of rejection by their "peers". WP isn't a business, it's one big, warm, fuzzy family. God forbid you run out on the family. (Ewww... I just had a visual of the Manson family). [/quote] I have to agree - I stayed as long as I did, even without any hope of real sales or a real site to sell from, because of the friendships I formed. I felt like a traitor in a way. In the long run though, those bonds weren't paying my bills for me (not even coming close!) so I had to do what I had to do for me and my businesses and I left (been doing much better since too!). Some sellers who were still there when I left... I was heartbroken almost to leave them behind. But I see they've left as well. Of all the sellers that are left there, the one I was concerned about (she really is a true business and just a real sweetheart of a person who wanted some place to sell her wares without the work involved of her own site and without eBay fees), had an empty store as of Sherrand's report yesterday - and I'm happy for that - she deserves more than what she was getting at WP. But I think, as a business, you want to please everyone, and if that means staying at WP - some may choose to do so thinking the 10.00 per month isn't that much considering they're keeping customers there... and should they leave, they may lose those customers from spite. This is going back a couple days but I'm going to say it as long as I'm here. I stay and read and comment here on the TT WP thread because it's fun. I LIKE the people here. I KNOW WP is a dead horse, I know it's just a matter of time now, I know there's not going to a successful end to WP anymore - I just don't believe there's a remote chance of that happening. Knowing that WP is for all intent dead in the water is one thing - but, something inside me, maybe a warped something at that, but that something inside me wants to see the final poof of smoke when it goes. I don't devote a lot of my time to watching the site - or monitoring the sellers there --- never have really since I left --- but some little devilish thing in me wants to see that final poof anyway. So yes, I may talk on about the dead horse - it may be over with under the smoke and mirrors that are going on - the owner of WP may be on to bigger and better scams... that's all good - I still want to see the poof. |
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07-31-2007, 01:08 AM,
(This post was last modified: 07-31-2007, 01:20 AM by eclectica.)
Post: #16442
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=amy link=topic=3775.msg62967#msg62967 date=1185833879]
Quote:so they will not ever see the hand on the plug A few of them were there when the plug was pulled on WP1 and still rushed to sign up when WP2 was announced--and they'll probably be among the first to join WP3. [/quote] Scary, isn't it? But I think you're dead on. Quote:This is going back a couple days but I'm going to say it as long as I'm here. I stay and read and comment here on the TT WP thread because it's fun. I LIKE the people here. I KNOW WP is a dead horse, I know it's just a matter of time now, I know there's not going to a successful end to WP anymore - I just don't believe there's a remote chance of that happening. Well said, Moon. I completely agree with everything you said. I honestly don't give a wombat poo poo what goes on over there... I can't even access the forums and don't care enough to get another ID. I enjoy the chat here and the people. I'm more interested in MY future than Ray Romeo's. That said, I still want to see the final curtain come down.
In the practice of tolerance, one's enemy is the best teacher. ~ Dalai Lama
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07-31-2007, 01:35 AM,
Post: #16443
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Great post. I'm watching for the final curtain also. There's just one store that I sooo want to see gone. I remember clicking on it and for me it was WOW I wish I knew how to do that. I can't believe with all her knowledge that she isn't seeing that the end is near. My other concerns have closed. I'm banned so that's as far as I can go. Well, tomorrows another day :couch:
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07-31-2007, 03:56 AM,
Post: #16444
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=ironwood_etc link=topic=3775.msg62993#msg62993 date=1185845737]
There's just one store that I sooo want to see gone. I remember clicking on it and for me it was WOW I wish I knew how to do that. :couch: [/quote] Which store? |
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07-31-2007, 04:01 AM,
Post: #16445
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
GiGi's
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07-31-2007, 04:18 AM,
Post: #16446
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=ironwood_etc link=topic=3775.msg62997#msg62997 date=1185854486]
GiGi's [/quote] She rocks! I hear she has much more up her sleeve than what we see so far. Everyone can watch her and learn how to kick major tail in online selling. |
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07-31-2007, 10:37 AM,
Post: #16447
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
I have retired from editorial posting here, so I'll let those still active on this thread do the honors of commenting. (boldings mine)
AndRay's follow-up to the "analysis": Quote:wagglepopCC2 31 Jul 2007 00:01 Popper reply: Quote:XXX 31 Jul 2007 00:48 AndRay's response: Quote:wagglepopCC2 31 Jul 2007 02:37 And the reply from you-know-who. Quote:XXX 31 Jul 2007 03:34 Edit: Quote:Sneakymagenta Yep. http://cgi.ebay.com/1960-Sport-Scope-13-...dZViewItem |
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07-31-2007, 11:34 AM,
(This post was last modified: 07-31-2007, 12:19 PM by bargainbloodhound.)
Post: #16448
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
RR Wrote:the fact that everything was designed, built and in place to support even the most explosive growth This forum is running on a more powerful server than the one WP uses - need I say more. RR Wrote:We near fell over from lack of sleep at times to be as customer responsive and in tune as we possibly could be. The 5 or 6 times when the site was down all night must have fallen on those very rare occasions when you were able to find time to sleep. RR Wrote:Wagglepop is a really good site. It performs well, has lots of useful and innovative proprietary features, You're using RScript jackass. There are 100 other sites using the same script with the same features and you have fewer features of the script enabled than most sites. RR Wrote:I had never encountered the biggest problems and most resistance coming from the clients themselves. Did you spend the last 20 years cooking fries in McDonald's? In any business one of the biggest sources of problems and headaches are the customers/clients. : RR Wrote:10 dollars each...Just about the cost of one decent lunch for one day. Ahh $10 lunches, the confirmation of time spent in McDonald's. :twistedevil: RR Wrote:especially disappointing level of malice. There is far more malice aimed at eBay (by buyers and sellers both on and off eBay...and on TT) : RR Wrote:I am, and will continue to remain, absolutely shocked that Wagglepop is not a much larger enterprise today due primarily either to a) the "bully element" online doing what they generally do: march the streets of the internet with keyboard torches and calls for the head of anyone who tries to make things better, or, b) those who expected an instant, free, and easy eBay alternative. The more likely culprits for your failure are: c) your site is an eBay knockoff. There is nothing "revolutionary" about it to entice auction buyers to switch from eBay d) you're oblivious to the offerings of your larger competitors iOffer, eBid, Ecrater, craigslist, Etsy, bla, bla, boinkin' bla who offer sellers several times more traffic and buyers. Most of them also offer either free stores or free listings. Your site is not cheap in comparison to the competition. e) the world has changed and the average seller today is looking at opening their own website and taking complete control of their business rather than moving to an eBay clone and being forced to shape their business plan to fit some boinktard auction site owner's idea of how it should be run . f)Auctions are out, fixed price is in. You're targeting the 20% of online buyers (auction users) while ignoring the 80% who won't buy/register at an auction site. Sellers and buyers are also moving to niche sites and classifieds. g,h,i,j,k,l,m,n,o,p,q,r,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z) you're an mileyazwipe: (which a major reason why sellers fled your site) RR Wrote:eBay alternative. funny words coming from someone (you) who is feeding Meg's pocket by having an eBay store and listing items on eBay. RR Wrote:$42,510 was spent on a variety of marketing efforts, primarily banner umm, banner ads lost their effectiveness in driving traffic to sites 7 years ago. The only thing they're good for now is branding (and your business isn't at the stage where branding should be your primary aim when buying advertising). More confirmation of my McDonald's theory. : pea brained numbskull Wrote:impossible-to-please and highly ignorant people (all of whom are no longer even here) Care to compare monthly sales? You'll lose badly.
"Well, Jay was so giddy that someone named Jay was involved with this site we posted our first non-eBay listing in 3 years here at Lunarbid (we tried two items at Yahoo once upon a time, they bombed)" -Marie posting in a LunarBid thread at OTWA in 2005 wins the award for 'most moronic reason ever given for choosing a venue"
"thanks twat u must have nothing better 2 do. do u talk to all your members like that. will not be recomending your site. best way to put it is TULIPTOOLS.COM IS REALLY SHIT. DONT JOIN." -pubescent owner of rinky dink off2auction.com in 2011 |
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07-31-2007, 12:13 PM,
Post: #16449
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
He takes no blame for any of this This behavior starts with mom, it's always someone elses fault- they're meanies. Didn't you just know it would be everybodies fault but his?! He's Shocked??!! They apparently don't know how much planning he did to bring this about. Activating his store on Ebay, what excuse will he give for that move? Oh, I have to generate income to cover debts and keep the site going. It'd be like my CEO letting the business go to hell and all the time building his own company. OH, that happens doesn't it. Well, here's to the loser sellers that could not keep the faith and the naysayers who ruined WP. May they all prosper and have success . Remember the wheel turn slowly, but it will turn on Ray :peepants:
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07-31-2007, 12:17 PM,
Post: #16450
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Quote:Quote from: RR This is one of the things that really got to me. After reading here and following links to a demo for this RScript it became quite clear to me that we were being lied to at WP. There was no team of people working to implement these features. There was just some boinktard holding back and not turning a bunch of the features on. Quote:After considering it for a few days since this initial post above, I think a follow up might be beneficial, if even perhaps only for my own personal reasons. I guess he wasn't done pointing the finger or finished with his rant. |
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