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Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens

  
Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse?
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Paid Feebay Employees With An Agenda
1.64%
1 1.64%
Infiltrators
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0 0%
Trolls
0%
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Naysayers
1.64%
1 1.64%
Morally Bankrupt Miscreants
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3 4.92%
Upstream Providers
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Jealous Types
1.64%
1 1.64%
Deadbeats
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1 1.64%
Ray Romeo
65.57%
40 65.57%
Ray Romeo\'s Alter Ego KaRay
16.39%
10 16.39%
Wagglepop CEO Ray Romeo Listing Items On eBay In His eBay Store Instead Of Listing On His Own Site
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Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
08-30-2006, 07:09 PM,
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RE: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Ray needs to sell the site while he can.  The weird talker (Ray?) elludes to this in some of his OWTA ramblings, so I think it might have been part of the plan all along.  I think that the site might have pretty much peaked now.  I'd guess that the bulk lister will be delayed (at best).  He has a small window of opportunity to either get someone in there to troubleshoot the system, or sell out totally (which would be better).  I don't really know if that would even help much at this point, but I think it's the only shot he's got to keep wp (as a minimum) somewhere on the PSU auction chart.  One thing that I'm trying to find on the site is his breakeven analysis. That should be a fairly good way to determine the staffing numbers.  BTW, I think that Ray is 40.
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08-30-2006, 07:17 PM,
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RE: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
I'm so thankful that sh!t isn't in my face anymore...  Ray can have it all!  Boy.  What a way to destroy forum boards...
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08-30-2006, 07:24 PM,
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Just another fyi - in addition to the entire account being closed if someone cancels their store, all of the feedback that they left for others disappear from the other sellers account also!
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08-30-2006, 07:40 PM,
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RE: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=vitalfinds link=topic=3775.msg21935#msg21935 date=1156965846]
Just another fyi - in addition to the entire account being closed if someone cancels their store, all of the feedback that they left for others disappear from the other sellers account also!
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Ray is just like a child throwing a tantrum.

The speculation that he may have been in therapy since the WP1 fiasco seems not likely to be true considering recent happenings, including the births of Deepriverman 2, 3 & 4 and his GF.
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08-30-2006, 08:51 PM,
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RE: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=cranky_hippie link=topic=3775.msg21937#msg21937 date=1156966850]
[quote author=vitalfinds link=topic=3775.msg21935#msg21935 date=1156965846]
Just another fyi - in addition to the entire account being closed if someone cancels their store, all of the feedback that they left for others disappear from the other sellers account also!
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Ray is just like a child throwing a tantrum.

The speculation that he may have been in therapy since the WP1 fiasco seems not likely to be true considering recent happenings, including the births of Deepriverman 2, 3 & 4 and his GF.
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I've never really thought about that with respect to it being a "choice" of his.  I tend to think that the disappearing feedback is a software configuration issue.  I'm assuming that the software is usually setup to charge listing and fvf's per transaction.  Since he wanted it to be a flat fee per month, maybe he came up with some sort of work-around that puts store owners into a certain store category for the purpose of changing the billing rules.  If that were true, then I guess that would leave him stuck with needing to somehow make the account inactive if the store owner closed, and it sounds like he can't figure out how to get the id out of that catagory and back into the per-tranaction catagory.

I'm totally guessing at all this, but it's the only way I can even attempt to apply any logic to this.  I would guess though that at the very least, even if he somehow couldn't relocate the id (or otherwise change it from it's "store status"), then at the very least he should be able to come up with a way to make the store id inactive (and preserve the old feedback) rather then wiping them off the database (or however it's done).  It could be as simple as just changing the password of that account.
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08-30-2006, 09:21 PM,
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Quote:I'm assuming that the software is usually setup to charge listing and fvf's per transaction. Since he wanted it to be a flat fee per month, maybe he came up with some sort of work-around that puts store owners into a certain store category for the purpose of changing the billing rules.

Nope.  Ray didn't make any changes to the software (except the templates) or do any work-arounds.  The software can be configured as either listing fees or monthly membership fees or any combination.

Quote:that would leave him stuck with needing to somehow make the account inactive if the store owner closed

There isn't any (software) reason.  It is purely financial...fewer members are likely to close their stores when they know they'll be zapped from the member rolls if they close.
"Well, Jay was so giddy that someone named Jay was involved with this site we posted our first non-eBay listing in 3 years here at Lunarbid (we tried two items at Yahoo once upon a time, they bombed)" -Marie posting in a LunarBid thread at OTWA in 2005 wins the award for 'most moronic reason ever given for choosing a venue"

"thanks twat u must have nothing better 2 do. do u talk to all your members like that. will not be recomending your site.
best way to put it is TULIPTOOLS.COM IS REALLY SHIT. DONT JOIN." -pubescent owner of rinky dink off2auction.com in 2011
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08-30-2006, 09:37 PM,
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Quote:There isn't any (software) reason.  It is purely financial...fewer members are likely to close their stores when they know they'll be zapped from the member rolls if they close.

Wow, that's ... I don't know what ... I'm speechless.  I guess he's in a world of his own.
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08-30-2006, 09:51 PM,
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I wonder if (accidentilly or otherwise) he's setting up the site in a way that would make it desireable for sellers that sell things such as solen merchandise.  In other words, would they view that particuliar store-zapping rule as a benifit for hiding their tracks?
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08-30-2006, 10:34 PM,
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RE: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Ray Romeo's motto is *Buyer Beware*.  He has stated over and over that he intends to do nothing about fraud, etc.  The whole thing is not a seller-friendly site, and yet many sellers are blindly following the pied piper. 
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"Well, Jay was so giddy that someone named Jay was involved with this site we posted our first non-eBay listing in 3 years here at Lunarbid (we tried two items at Yahoo once upon a time, they bombed)" -Marie posting in a LunarBid thread at OTWA in 2005 wins the award for 'most moronic reason ever given for choosing a venue"

"thanks twat u must have nothing better 2 do. do u talk to all your members like that. will not be recomending your site.
best way to put it is TULIPTOOLS.COM IS REALLY SHIT. DONT JOIN." -pubescent owner of rinky dink off2auction.com in 2011
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