HiBidder Database Implodes, 95% of Listings Lost

[angelsolutions]

I believe this is the appropriate place for this welcome for one of the HiBidder moderators :

smileywelcome  angelsolutions.

I know we met on OTWA last year when you were defending the rights of spammers to relentlessly spam boards.  As I recall you sent a couple of your PSU spammer buddies from an auction site called "theclub" to OTWA and then you went into a rant against OTWA members and OTWA's owner ("Ignoring my PM Jim?")  because the spammers had been called spammers by OTWA members.

Welcome, 

Thank you for the welcome!  Yes, I recognize many members/names here too. Thanks also for the heads up about this place.  I would rather not be a member of another community that spends its time trashing other people just for the sake of cruelty.  Not my style.  But thanks anyway.

See ya,

[bargainbloodhound]

I would rather not be a member of another community that spends its time trashing other people just for the sake of cruelty.

Then why are you a member of Hibidder?  I believe the reporting of other sellers posts on the eBay boards that HiBidder's one moderator (userID starts with an M) did (and admitted to doing) is an example of both "trashing" and "cruelty".  Did that Hibidder mod even stop to think that by reporting posts on the eBay boards that the sellers she had reported could be suspended or NARU'd (which would have affected their income)?

The posts you made on OTWA last year (and repeated on PSU) about OTWA members and OTWA's owner were definitely an example of someone (you) spending time "trashing other people".  :


Back to HiBidder sales... A HiBidder user posts frequent updates of HiBidder's sales stats at PSU.  The latest 2-day sales figures (done by subtracting the current 10/28 stats from the 10/26 stats):

2-day site total:

Members: +13
Live Auctions: +29
Page Views: 34,297 (an average of 17,000 per day from the 26th-28th)
Total Sales: $50 (an average of $25 per day over the 2 day span)
Items Sold: 17 (an average of under 9 sales per day over the 2-day span)

[bargainbloodhound]

Continuing the look at HiBidder's sales and traffic

HiBidder's owner is fond of talking up his site's traffic figures to the site's members:

Here are the newest Alexa Rankings as of September 28, 2006!

Traffic Rank for hibidder.com: 154,156

These numbers are fantastic! Thanks to each and every one of you for being here!! It's because of YOU

On October 10th the site showed a slight improvement - movng up to 148,629 from 154,156

Thank You everyone who responded. Here are our newest statistics on Alexa!

Traffic Rank for hibidder.com: 148,629

As you can see, we are moving up and it's all thanks to YOU!

Many of the members fell for the slick talking used car salesman's claims that HiBidder's Alexa rankings were "fantastic".  However, a comparison of HiBidder's rankings with TulipTools (a site with very few members) shows that HiBidder's Alexa numbers are dismal rather than fantastic.

(lower numbers are better in Alexa's rankings.  Yahoo is ranked 1)

3-month average
HiBidder 154,274
TulipTools 73,659

1-week average
HiBidder 208,836
TulipTools 44,657

1-day average
HiBidder N/A (not in top 100,000)
TulipTools 40,543

Summary: HiBidder's traffic sucks and it isn't surprising that the average member has very few sales.

[regic]

[quote author=mandy link=topic=5129.msg27824#msg27824 date=1160996800]

bbearthesockpuppet wrote on June 14th:
Just noticed the helpful stats:

HiBidder site stats:

SITE STATS
Members: 901
Total Sales: $8968.29
Items Sold: 551

HiBidder total site sales June 14th-October 15th
Members 2100
Total Site Sales 6/14-10/15 $6,823
Items sold on site 6/14-10/15 1,863

Monthly sales $ per member: 81 cents
Monthly Items sold per member: 0.22
[/quote]

Updating

HiBidder site stats 10/15-11/10

Members +219 (2319 total)
Total Site Sales 10/15-11/10: $5,394 ($21,186 since site opened)
Items sold on site 10/15-11/10: 313 (2,716 since site opened)

An average of 13 sales per day on the site over the past 25 days - there are 2300 members

[sneakymagenta]

Items sold on site 10/15-11/10: 313

1 month HB is less than 1 week Sneaky.  :

[sneakymagenta]

TT has a fan club.  ;D

http://www.hibidder.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4679

Some people thrive on the drama and enjoy stirring it up... makes you wonder how empty their lives are to be like this.

:

Users online 23

Users online 12

7 months after the thread started---HB traffic still sucks. 

[eclectica]

That must be it! My life is just so... empty. THAT'S why I'm here!


Great post Sneaky!

[amy]

Auction sites are like people...they all have their own good and bad points. I choose to look for the good in something than look for the bad in all

The only reason I list on any auction site is to make money.  If the total monthly sales on a site are less than my monthly gross sales then the site sucks as far as I'm concerned because the only good point of any auction site to me is sales. I really don't give a crap if a site's community/forums are warm, fuzzy, and fun when I list on a site because warm, fuzzy, and fun does't pay the bills. HiBidder and 90% of the other small auction sites that are advertised on OAI forums fall into this "sales too low to waste my time listing at" category.

I'm not going to recommend any site whose total sales are as low as HB's.  Sellers have wasted too much time over the years listing on places that were heavily promoted on forums--and most of those sellers have ultimately ended up back at eBay (or quit selling entirely) due to the lack of sales at these sites.  If the sellers had avoided places like HiBidder, SellYourItem, LunarBid, BidChaser,  etc and instead focused on building their own websites (or listing on sites with sales like Amazon, Etsy, etc.) they probably could have broken free of eBay.

[BellisimaJ.]

TT has a fan club.  Grin

Did they call it "TT Tells on Us for Spamming and Says Our Sales Suck"?  :peepants:



Wonder if Alana/Bali still spams for them? 

[BellisimaJ.]

The only reason I list on any auction site is to make money.  If the total monthly sales on a site are less than my monthly gross sales then the site sucks as far as I'm concerned because the only good point of any auction site to me is sales. I really don't give a crap if a site's community/forums are warm, fuzzy, and fun when I list on a site because warm, fuzzy, and fun does't pay the bills. HiBidder and 90% of the other small auction sites that are advertised on OAI forums fall into this "sales too low to waste my time listing at" category.

I'm not going to recommend any site whose total sales are as low as HB's.  Sellers have wasted too much time over the years listing on places that were heavily promoted on forums--and most of those sellers have ultimately ended up back at eBay (or quit selling entirely) due to the lack of sales at these sites.  If the sellers had avoided places like HiBidder, SellYourItem, LunarBid, BidChaser,  etc and instead focused on building their own websites (or listing on sites with sales like Amazon, Etsy, etc.) they probably could have broken free of eBay.

Good post, Amy.