Poll: Who is to blame for sellers leaving Wagglepop en masse? You do not have permission to vote in this poll. |
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Paid Feebay Employees With An Agenda | 1 | 1.64% | |
Infiltrators | 0 | 0% | |
Trolls | 0 | 0% | |
Naysayers | 1 | 1.64% | |
Morally Bankrupt Miscreants | 3 | 4.92% | |
Upstream Providers | 0 | 0% | |
Jealous Types | 1 | 1.64% | |
Deadbeats | 1 | 1.64% | |
Ray Romeo | 40 | 65.57% | |
Ray Romeo\'s Alter Ego KaRay | 10 | 16.39% | |
Wagglepop CEO Ray Romeo Listing Items On eBay In His eBay Store Instead Of Listing On His Own Site | 4 | 6.56% | |
Total | 61 vote(s) | 100% |
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Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
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06-20-2007, 07:25 PM,
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Wow 7 Lurkers,
Don't be shy stop in and say hello! |
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06-20-2007, 07:34 PM,
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
Quote: Nancy, the same thing with my mom as yours. She nixed the treatment options a year and a half ago when they told her it was curtains for her. She just decided that it was her life and she was going to live every day like it was her last...went and bought a Harley and enjoys it. She's had two almost fatal heart attacks in the last year, because everything is starting to take its toll, but I've got to say, she's happy. Goodness sakes! Well, I know my mom isn't gonna go for the bike route, but she doesn't want to get sick all the time. Don't blame her there. I'm just being selfish I guess. These feelings are like a roller coaster, up down, up down. |
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06-20-2007, 07:41 PM,
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=bratpack link=topic=3775.msg57743#msg57743 date=1182367548]
Wow 7 Lurkers, [/quote] Want to see the number triple? *BBH rushes off to AdWords to bid on the wagglepop keyword*
"Well, Jay was so giddy that someone named Jay was involved with this site we posted our first non-eBay listing in 3 years here at Lunarbid (we tried two items at Yahoo once upon a time, they bombed)" -Marie posting in a LunarBid thread at OTWA in 2005 wins the award for 'most moronic reason ever given for choosing a venue"
"thanks twat u must have nothing better 2 do. do u talk to all your members like that. will not be recomending your site. best way to put it is TULIPTOOLS.COM IS REALLY SHIT. DONT JOIN." -pubescent owner of rinky dink off2auction.com in 2011 |
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06-20-2007, 07:47 PM,
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=bargainbloodhound link=topic=3775.msg57746#msg57746 date=1182368505]
[quote author=bratpack link=topic=3775.msg57743#msg57743 date=1182367548] Wow 7 Lurkers, [/quote] Want to see the number triple? *BBH rushes off to AdWords to bid on the wagglepop keyword* [/quote] No need to rush, they can hardly give it away and the page impressions is like 50 for 3 days. Truth |
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06-20-2007, 08:02 PM,
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=bargainbloodhound link=topic=3775.msg57746#msg57746 date=1182368505]
[quote author=bratpack link=topic=3775.msg57743#msg57743 date=1182367548] Wow 7 Lurkers, [/quote] Want to see the number triple? *BBH rushes off to AdWords to bid on the wagglepop keyword* [/quote] Don't worry, you probably will not have to pay more than a penny a click.... It seems even ebay doesn't feel it is worth the expense....why? Hell, ain't nobody typing in a search for "wagglepop" |
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06-20-2007, 08:07 PM,
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
For all you lurkers out there: Here's a brief synopsis of things you should know about Ray and WP.
1) Ray is a hypocrite. He preaches peace, love and civility, when in fact, he has one of the worse potty mouths on the eBay boards and elsewhere. He says listing contest are "pointless" yet encourages sellers to engage in them. Don't believe us, just ask and we'll direct you. Want more examples? Ask. 2) Ray is a liar. He claims to have destroyed all personal membership data from the untimely plug-pulling of WP1 after it was discovered that members' sensitive credit card information had been corrupted and compromised, yet he somehow managed to send personal invitation SPAM emails to former WP1 members to join him on his venture with WP2. He further publically stated he would NEVER, EVER do another WP after WP1. He further claimed to have severed all ties with eBay, but maintained an active store there (for all I know, it's still there). He never delivers on his promises. These are just a few of his lies. There are MANY others. Ask us and we will direct you. 3) Ray is a crook. He takes sellers' money every month and delivers little in return, as much or less than most venues that charge nothing. Should you question why this is so, your account will be terminated - guaranteed. And should you want to close your store, you will be harrassed for another month's fees you do not owe. What's more he will keep your listings to himself, resurrect your store as a ghost store at will and do whatever necessary to artificially bump up store counts, listing counts, etc. for the purpose of making himself look good. Should you choose to close your account, you will have to de-list each and every listing, one by one, and have the PERMISSION from Ray to close your store (which also closes your account permanently under your user ID -- you can't even come back as a buyer) which he does only after trying to extort as money cash as he can from you before your departure. 4) Ray is a paranoid snoop. Nothing you do is private. He will read your personal correspondence to your customers, would-be customers and other sellers, without your knowledge or consent and interfere with your business. If he doesn't like what he sees, your personal correspondence will never be delivered and your account will be closed without warning. I have it on authority that this is akin to criminal mail tampering or possibly illegal wire tapping. And think about it, Lurkers. You are PAYING for Ray's service that may or may not be available to you depending on the mood of the owner. Imagine if the phone company refused to let you talk to a customer because it didn't aporove of your conversation, yet charged you for the connection and then disconnected your phone without warning. This sounds like Nazi Germany to me. 5) Ray is an egomaniac. He will delete posts, entire threads, features of WP, you name it, should he feel it can be used to show him for what he is -- an utter Boinktard. Try asking about what happened to the WP Newsletter, the Sales Reports, the growth projections, the farewell forum, the We the People and other forums (Ask us and we'll give you the list). Ask what happened to the plans for Waggle Stuff, the "TV Commercial", the promise of triple site traffic. I dare you to ask. Your account and business will ALWAYS be in jeopardy. Your posts don't even have to be in violation of the board participation policy. If Ray doesn't like your "cheap shots" (his words) you're axed and you'll "hit the bricks" (also his words). Because accounts can be excommunicated at will and without cause, you'll have no business security and you'll never know from one day to the next what mood Ray will be in, what will set him off, and what will get you axed. Don't believe us? We'll direct you. 6) Ray is a cult leader. He sees himself as Grand Wizard of the WP Clan. Should you care to view my list of cult practices, I'd be happy to direct you to them. I have a laundry list of cult characteristics and practices, and WP fits EVERY criteria. Even his Numero Uno disciple, Karen, magically disappeared. Where did she go? Anybody know? Maybe she was never real, but a made-up alter-ego. Is that the behavior of an "honest" site owner? And who announced her leave. Not her. Not Ray. Her "replacement", Andrew. 7) Ray is sly, cunning and deceptive. He uses lies and deceit to lure unsuspecting sellers into his fold. He denies them access to any information other than that which has been given his personal stamp of approval and meets his criteria of self-glorifiation. 8) Ray does not own a business. Business do not operate on faith, could bes, wanna bes, might bes, sometime maybe will bes. Businesses operate in the real world. Sellers on WP are paying Ray to induldge himself in a self-possessed, imaginery world that does not, will not exist in any stretch of the business sense. Real businesses allow associates leave without malice. Real business will answer business questions. Real business let associates in on marketing plans, projections, revenue allocation, etc. Real business are PROUD of what they do. Ray, on the other hand, takes great pains to HIDE himself, deny his indiscretions, keep members isolated from information about him from any other source but his mouth alone. 9) Ray has no brains. Last fall, WP had 939 stores, most from unique sellers. Since, most of these sellers have either left or were excommunicated. Ray says they were suspended for "non-payment" of fees. That is a flat-out, unadulterated LIE! Ask the folks here and they will confirm that. Ask your own sense of logic. At 939 stores Ray still did no advertising, no promotion -- nothing. Simply claimed it was not in the budget. He simply took sellers' money. What does that say to you now that he has fewer followers than he had a couple weeks into his venture? 10) Ray is a loser. He wasn't a good eBay seller and he failed miserably with WP1. And I think even you lurkers would be hard-pressed to call the loss of nearly 80% of his patronage the mark of a winning businessman. He takes no responsibility for any of his misaccomplishments. He is never at fault. Sellers are to blame for everything. eBay is his enemy. TT and its members are his enemy. PSU is his enemy. SneakyDave is his enemy. The Ross Show is his enemy. How many enemies can one guy have? 11) Ray is a hot-head. He cannot take criticism. He cannot handle pressure and confrontation. He's left a potty-mouth trail wherever he goes. Rather than curing a problem, he cuts off the leg. That's his style. That will always be his style. Is that the kind of person you want controlling your financial future? I could go on, but I have work to do. Maybe some other members would be willing to take it from here. Lots of fodder for the Grems. Oh, and Ray, |
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06-20-2007, 08:18 PM,
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=Karma link=topic=3775.msg57702#msg57702 date=1182317147]
[quote author=RiverRat link=topic=3775.msg57697#msg57697 date=1182310993] Me too Karma! I've already told my family I was going to be on vacation that week. [/quote] You are a slow reader... [/quote] I didn't used to be, but somewhere between Book 6 and Book 7 my close up vision has gone and my arms aren't long enough anymore. [quote author=let the truth be told link=topic=3775.msg57747#msg57747 date=1182368856] [quote author=bargainbloodhound link=topic=3775.msg57746#msg57746 date=1182368505] [quote author=bratpack link=topic=3775.msg57743#msg57743 date=1182367548] Wow 7 Lurkers, [/quote] Want to see the number triple? *BBH rushes off to AdWords to bid on the wagglepop keyword* [/quote] No need to rush, they can hardly give it away and the page impressions is like 50 for 3 days. Truth [/quote] @ BBH and Truth!
Never argue with an idiot they drag you down to their level then beat you with experience.
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06-20-2007, 10:48 PM,
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=bargainbloodhound link=topic=3775.msg57746#msg57746 date=1182368505]
[quote author=bratpack link=topic=3775.msg57743#msg57743 date=1182367548] Wow 7 Lurkers, [/quote] Want to see the number triple? *BBH rushes off to AdWords to bid on the wagglepop keyword* [/quote]
In the practice of tolerance, one's enemy is the best teacher. ~ Dalai Lama
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06-20-2007, 11:08 PM,
(This post was last modified: 06-21-2007, 02:06 AM by Karma.)
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=Designers Bargains link=topic=3775.msg57749#msg57749 date=1182370031]
For all you lurkers out there: Here's a brief synopsis of things you should know about Ray and WP. 1) Ray is a hypocrite. He preaches peace, love and civility, when in fact, he has one of the worse potty mouths on the eBay boards and elsewhere. He says listing contest are "pointless" yet encourages sellers to engage in them. Don't believe us, just ask and we'll direct you. Want more examples? Ask. 2) Ray is a liar. He claims to have destroyed all personal membership data from the untimely plug-pulling of WP1 after it was discovered that members' sensitive credit card information had been corrupted and compromised, yet he somehow managed to send personal invitation SPAM emails to former WP1 members to join him on his venture with WP2. He further publically stated he would NEVER, EVER do another WP after WP1. He further claimed to have severed all ties with eBay, but maintained an active store there (for all I know, it's still there). He never delivers on his promises. These are just a few of his lies. There are MANY others. Ask us and we will direct you. 3) Ray is a crook. He takes sellers' money every month and delivers little in return, as much or less than most venues that charge nothing. Should you question why this is so, your account will be terminated - guaranteed. And should you want to close your store, you will be harrassed for another month's fees you do not owe. What's more he will keep your listings to himself, resurrect your store as a ghost store at will and do whatever necessary to artificially bump up store counts, listing counts, etc. for the purpose of making himself look good. Should you choose to close your account, you will have to de-list each and every listing, one by one, and have the PERMISSION from Ray to close your store (which also closes your account permanently under your user ID -- you can't even come back as a buyer) which he does only after trying to extort as money cash as he can from you before your departure. 4) [b]Ray is a paranoid snoop. Nothing you do is private. He will read your personal correspondence to your customers, would-be customers and other sellers, without your knowledge or consent and interfere with your business. If he doesn't like what he sees, your personal correspondence will never be delivered and your account will be closed without warning. I have it on authority that this is akin to criminal mail tampering or possibly illegal wire tapping. And think about it, Lurkers. You are PAYING for Ray's service that may or may not be available to you depending on the mood of the owner. Imagine if the phone company refused to let you talk to a customer because it didn't aporove of your conversation, yet charged you for the connection and then disconnected your phone without warning. This sounds like Nazi Germany to me.[/b] 5) Ray is an egomaniac. He will delete posts, entire threads, features of WP, you name it, should he feel it can be used to show him for what he is -- an utter Boinktard. Try asking about what happened to the WP Newsletter, the Sales Reports, the growth projections, the farewell forum, the We the People and other forums (Ask us and we'll give you the list). Ask what happened to the plans for Waggle Stuff, the "TV Commercial", the promise of triple site traffic. I dare you to ask. Your account and business will ALWAYS be in jeopardy. Your posts don't even have to be in violation of the board participation policy. If Ray doesn't like your "cheap shots" (his words) you're axed and you'll "hit the bricks" (also his words). Because accounts can be excommunicated at will and without cause, you'll have no business security and you'll never know from one day to the next what mood Ray will be in, what will set him off, and what will get you axed. Don't believe us? We'll direct you. 6) Ray is a cult leader. He sees himself as Grand Wizard of the WP Clan. Should you care to view my list of cult practices, I'd be happy to direct you to them. I have a laundry list of cult characteristics and practices, and WP fits EVERY criteria. Even his Numero Uno disciple, Karen, magically disappeared. Where did she go? Anybody know? Maybe she was never real, but a made-up alter-ego. Is that the behavior of an "honest" site owner? And who announced her leave. Not her. Not Ray. Her "replacement", Andrew. 7) Ray is sly, cunning and deceptive. He uses lies and deceit to lure unsuspecting sellers into his fold. He denies them access to any information other than that which has been given his personal stamp of approval and meets his criteria of self-glorifiation. 8) Ray does not own a business. Business do not operate on faith, could bes, wanna bes, might bes, sometime maybe will bes. Businesses operate in the real world. Sellers on WP are paying Ray to induldge himself in a self-possessed, imaginery world that does not, will not exist in any stretch of the business sense. Real businesses allow associates leave without malice. Real business will answer business questions. Real business let associates in on marketing plans, projections, revenue allocation, etc. Real business are PROUD of what they do. Ray, on the other hand, takes great pains to HIDE himself, deny his indiscretions, keep members isolated from information about him from any other source but his mouth alone. 9) Ray has no brains. Last fall, WP had 939 stores, most from unique sellers. Since, most of these sellers have either left or were excommunicated. Ray says they were suspended for "non-payment" of fees. That is a flat-out, unadulterated LIE! Ask the folks here and they will confirm that. Ask your own sense of logic. At 939 stores Ray still did no advertising, no promotion -- nothing. Simply claimed it was not in the budget. He simply took sellers' money. What does that say to you now that he has fewer followers than he had a couple weeks into his venture? 10) Ray is a loser. He wasn't a good eBay seller and he failed miserably with WP1. And I think even you lurkers would be hard-pressed to call the loss of nearly 80% of his patronage the mark of a winning businessman. He takes no responsibility for any of his misaccomplishments. He is never at fault. Sellers are to blame for everything. eBay is his enemy. TT and its members are his enemy. PSU is his enemy. SneakyDave is his enemy. The Ross Show is his enemy. How many enemies can one guy have? 11) Ray is a hot-head. He cannot take criticism. He cannot handle pressure and confrontation. He's left a potty-mouth trail wherever he goes. Rather than curing a problem, he cuts off the leg. That's his style. That will always be his style. Is that the kind of person you want controlling your financial future? I could go on, but I have work to do. Maybe some other members would be willing to take it from here. Lots of fodder for the Grems. Oh, and Ray, [/quote] Bolding red section is mine. (edited) I had been a member starting in September of 2006. I never was a cheeleader, as I believed paying $9.95 was like being at a mall. At one point there was over 900+ stores on Wagglepop. They came on the boards talking about a $75,000+ budget for advertising. Nothing ever happened with that. Once people started feeling the disappointment in that and started asking questions, more and more posts were being deleted. Even people who had originally thought others were being negative, started to question why such posts were being removed. After all, they did come on and share a bit of what they planned. Getting all the people who were paying money every month all excited for nothing. At one point they stated updates for instant checkout couldn't be done due to INCREASE in traffic. Then months later after 700+ stores left they stated it couldn't be done yet due to LACK OF MONEY. I made a post one morning to someone who had a customer complain about not being able to pay immediately. One person of course blames it on ebay being slow. I nicely mentioned that the big picture was WP doesn't have instant check out and that is what the customer wants. Of course it was deleted. Why would something like that be deleted? It wasn't saying anything negative about the site. The only reason is guilt. People who have promised stuff to others and do not follow through obviously feel guilty and feel any question is an insult, snide, or "mocking". After that, I had a few emails via pm that didn't seem to go through. I know the ass was reading. You can think he only "reads" emails from people who are there to cause trouble, but you are saddly mistaken. How could he know who was there to cause trouble if he wasn't reading everyones? Think about it. If you feel it is ok to break the law to keep a couple of people who may "appear" to be negative then shame on you. Hey lurkers, be careful what you write in your PM's on Wagglepop, because they ARE being read and watched. You are selling on a site thats owner is breaking the law, and will eventually be caught. Only in a CULT is it not appropriate to ask questions and to just blindlessly follow. In real life businesses discuss the good and the bad, otherwise how would you ever get better??? Test the waters lurkers, ask what happened to the "we the people", the site stats, or anything that would actually give you some kind of information to make a real business decision! |
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06-20-2007, 11:41 PM,
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Re: Wagglepop 2: Deja Vu as Auction Site That Left Sellers Stranded Reopens
[quote author=Designers Bargains link=topic=3775.msg57749#msg57749 date=1182370031]
For all you lurkers out there: Here's a brief synopsis of things you should know about Ray and WP. 1) Ray is a hypocrite. He preaches peace, love and civility, when in fact, he has one of the worse potty mouths on the eBay boards and elsewhere. He says listing contest are "pointless" yet encourages sellers to engage in them. Don't believe us, just ask and we'll direct you. Want more examples? Ask. 2) Ray is a liar. He claims to have destroyed all personal membership data from the untimely plug-pulling of WP1 after it was discovered that members' sensitive credit card information had been corrupted and compromised, yet he somehow managed to send personal invitation SPAM emails to former WP1 members to join him on his venture with WP2. He further publically stated he would NEVER, EVER do another WP after WP1. He further claimed to have severed all ties with eBay, but maintained an active store there (for all I know, it's still there). He never delivers on his promises. These are just a few of his lies. There are MANY others. Ask us and we will direct you. 3) Ray is a crook. He takes sellers' money every month and delivers little in return, as much or less than most venues that charge nothing. Should you question why this is so, your account will be terminated - guaranteed. And should you want to close your store, you will be harassed for another month's fees you do not owe. What's more he will keep your listings to himself, resurrect your store as a ghost store at will and do whatever necessary to artificially bump up store counts, listing counts, etc. for the purpose of making himself look good. Should you choose to close your account, you will have to de-list each and every listing, one by one, and have the PERMISSION from Ray to close your store (which also closes your account permanently under your user ID -- you can't even come back as a buyer) which he does only after trying to extort as money cash as he can from you before your departure. 4) Ray is a paranoid snoop. Nothing you do is private. He will read your personal correspondence to your customers, would-be customers and other sellers, without your knowledge or consent and interfere with your business. If he doesn't like what he sees, your personal correspondence will never be delivered and your account will be closed without warning. I have it on authority that this is akin to criminal mail tampering or possibly illegal wire tapping. And think about it, Lurkers. You are PAYING for Ray's service that may or may not be available to you depending on the mood of the owner. Imagine if the phone company refused to let you talk to a customer because it didn't approve of your conversation, yet charged you for the connection and then disconnected your phone without warning. This sounds like Nazi Germany to me. 5) Ray is an egomaniac. He will delete posts, entire threads, features of WP, you name it, should he feel it can be used to show him for what he is -- an utter Boinktard. Try asking about what happened to the WP Newsletter, the Sales Reports, the growth projections, the farewell forum, the We the People and other forums (Ask us and we'll give you the list). Ask what happened to the plans for Waggle Stuff, the "TV Commercial", the promise of triple site traffic. I dare you to ask. Your account and business will ALWAYS be in jeopardy. Your posts don't even have to be in violation of the board participation policy. If Ray doesn't like your "cheap shots" (his words) you're axed and you'll "hit the bricks" (also his words). Because accounts can be excommunicated at will and without cause, you'll have no business security and you'll never know from one day to the next what mood Ray will be in, what will set him off, and what will get you axed. Don't believe us? We'll direct you. 6) Ray is a cult leader. He sees himself as Grand Wizard of the WP Clan. Should you care to view my list of cult practices, I'd be happy to direct you to them. I have a laundry list of cult characteristics and practices, and WP fits EVERY criteria. Even his Numero Uno disciple, Karen, magically disappeared. Where did she go? Anybody know? Maybe she was never real, but a made-up alter-ego. Is that the behavior of an "honest" site owner? And who announced her leave. Not her. Not Ray. Her "replacement", Andrew. 7) Ray is sly, cunning and deceptive. He uses lies and deceit to lure unsuspecting sellers into his fold. He denies them access to any information other than that which has been given his personal stamp of approval and meets his criteria of self-glorification. 8) Ray does not own a business. Business do not operate on faith, could bes, wanna bes, might bes, sometime maybe will bes. Businesses operate in the real world. Sellers on WP are paying Ray to indulge himself in a self-possessed, imaginary world that does not, will not exist in any stretch of the business sense. Real businesses allow associates leave without malice. Real business will answer business questions. Real business let associates in on marketing plans, projections, revenue allocation, etc. Real business are PROUD of what they do. Ray, on the other hand, takes great pains to HIDE himself, deny his indiscretions, keep members isolated from information about him from any other source but his mouth alone. 9) Ray has no brains. Last fall, WP had 939 stores, most from unique sellers. Since, most of these sellers have either left or were excommunicated. Ray says they were suspended for "non-payment" of fees. That is a flat-out, unadulterated LIE! Ask the folks here and they will confirm that. Ask your own sense of logic. At 939 stores Ray still did no advertising, no promotion -- nothing. Simply claimed it was not in the budget. He simply took sellers' money. What does that say to you now that he has fewer followers than he had a couple weeks into his venture? 10) Ray is a loser. He wasn't a good eBay seller and he failed miserably with WP1. And I think even you lurkers would be hard-pressed to call the loss of nearly 80% of his patronage the mark of a winning businessman. He takes no responsibility for any of his misaccomplishments. He is never at fault. Sellers are to blame for everything. eBay is his enemy. TT and its members are his enemy. PSU is his enemy. SneakyDave is his enemy. The Ross Show is his enemy. How many enemies can one guy have? 11) Ray is a hot-head. He cannot take criticism. He cannot handle pressure and confrontation. He's left a potty-mouth trail wherever he goes. Rather than curing a problem, he cuts off the leg. That's his style. That will always be his style. Is that the kind of person you want controlling your financial future? I could go on, but I have work to do. Maybe some other members would be willing to take it from here. Lots of fodder for the Grems. Oh, and Ray, [/quote] Excellent Post! DB this is exactly why we need the original gang who started this thread to stick around. Who else has all of this information. You all know who you are and I want you to know that I admire and appreciate all that you do! I know that Sweet said it was the newbies turn but................no...........I don't think so..... |
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