PlunderHere and AlsoShop: A Web of Privacy Violations, Backstabbing, and Deceit

[sneakymagenta]

I'm not done complaining about Flounderhere's inability to spell. 


Professor Sneaky's Ecommerce 101

A. Buyer trust can make or break your site.
B. Buyers are less likely to trust sites with misspelled words.


Web design experts agree with Professor Sneaky!

The site is designed poorly. Once again, if the site isn't designed professionally and is not engaging, consumers aren't going to take you seriously enough to give you their credit card. Note: Watch your typos carefully. I can't tell you how many people will judge you poorly based on misspelled words!

http://www.bellawebdesignblog.com/2007/0...sons_.html

The FTC and National Consumers League agree with Professor Sneaky!

Until then, the FTC and the National Consumers League recommend several tips for distinguishing a legitimate online escrow service:

    * Be suspicious of an escrow service site that claims to be affiliated with the government or that follows "U.S. Financial and Business Code." No such code exists.
    * Look for other troubling visual clues, such as misspelled words or awkwardly phrased sentences.

http://www.consumerwebwatch.org/dynamic/...nd-run.cfm

[RiverRat]

[quote author=BellisimaJ. link=topic=9139.msg69192#msg69192 date=1208476225]


Edit to add:  "Stupidity is its own punishment."

You left out the apostrophe in "it's". Just trying to be helpful. 
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Thanks for the help, but in that particular instance the "its" is possessive and therefore doesn't use an apostrophe. 
See:  "It's" vs. "Its"  

Hope that helps.

[xwpopper]

[quote author=jezebel link=topic=9139.msg69189#msg69189 date=1208470737]

You might notice a few similarities to PlunderHere

AlsoShop's admin 'admin' is from Kern County, California
http://www.alsoshop.com/cgi-bin/auction/...w_feedback&userID=1
Plunderhere's admin 'Mo' is from Kern County, California
http://www.plunderhere.com/auction/cgi-b...w_feedback&userID=101365

Kern County is a popular place:
http://www.alsoshop.com/cgi-bin/auction/...w_feedback&userID=2
http://www.alsoshop.com/cgi-bin/auction/...w_feedback&userID=5
http://www.alsoshop.com/cgi-bin/auction/...w_feedback&userID=7

The auction site has 46 members counting the admin's 3 socks.
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Even more interesting is the registration dates shown...
Check out:
http://www.plunderhere.com/auction/cgi-b...w_feedback&userID=1
Now check out:
http://www.alsoshop.com/cgi-bin/auction/...w_feedback&userID=1

What are the chances of the PH Admin ID being registered on the exact same date as the brand new site AlsoShop's admin registration? And, from the same county? And, registered in 2004 when the domain was only registered on 1/11/2008?
http://who.godaddy.com/WhoIs.aspx?domain=alsoshop.com&prog_id=godaddy
Then, it shows Ray S as being the owner of the domain? Also, run the search for Auctionquests... it appears that domain was transferred on 1/17 to another owner. This just happens to be right after registering AlsoShop, and the negotiations for Plunderere.
Who the heck is fooling who here?

I don't think we have to wait for the AlsoShop admin to give herself away. It's already done. What really blows my mind is part of the reason for the sale of Plunderhere was "to take away the work crippling Mo." And, Superdeals has "have been active in the PH forums for awhile working in conjunction with the tech team to sort out and enhance the running of PH as the site has grown so fast, Mo I know was flat out with answering emails, helping in the forums, doing all the accounts and for her to work on the tech stuff too was just way too much so we stepped in. Now Mo is still doing what she does best and that's helping everybody at PH, she isn't going anywhere and will remain as a very valuable asset and partner to the business."

Lies: Mo couldn't have been too overwhelmed if she started a new site while being so overloaded.
More Lies: He posted less than 20 times on the forum before April to "Help" MO.
The biggest lie: Mo may not be going anywhere, but she is taking her freakin mods with her to AlsoShop, owned by Ray.

Superdeals is either the biggest con since Ray Romeo, or the biggest sucker since the WP cultist movement.

[regic]

[quote author=sneakymagenta link=topic=9139.msg69195#msg69195 date=1208480531]

Thank god one of the similarities isn't the boinking misspelling of testimonials! 
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B. Buyers are less likely to trust sites with misspelled words.

Watch this promotional video Sneaky  ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Klfm2VLR_o&feature=related

some highlights--jewerely, perferred

It's hard to take half these sites seriously as businesses, or trust them, when everything they do is screaming clueless boinktard.

, Superdeals has "have been active in the PH forums for awhile working in conjunction with the tech team to sort out and enhance the running of PH

I hope not.  After reading a few of his endless blind babbling to the blind posts about the server move, the new server, site security, and other site related issues it's obvious he doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground as far as tech issues go.

What are the chances of the PH Admin ID being registered on the exact same date as the brand new site AlsoShop's admin registration?

100% if the sites you're talking about are RScript sites.  The admin ID for some reason always shows as May 14, 2004.
http://www.wagglepop.com/bin/auction/vie...w_feedback&userID=1
http://www.biddersnsellers.com/cgi-bin/a...w_feedback&userID=1

[xwpopper]

[quote author=regic link=topic=9139.msg69200#msg69200 date=1208499088]

What are the chances of the PH Admin ID being registered on the exact same date as the brand new site AlsoShop's admin registration?

100% if the sites you're talking about are RScript sites.  The admin ID for some reason always shows as May 14, 2004.
http://www.wagglepop.com/bin/auction/vie...w_feedback&userID=1
http://www.biddersnsellers.com/cgi-bin/a...w_feedback&userID=1
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Well Darn...
Even without that though, there's still little question as to who is who, who owns who, and who runs who.
The "respectful to Mo" comments I made earlier still stand, but the longer she and Mark go without defending the Plunderhere name and site, the harder it is to continue in that respect toward her. I would defend my own business and personal reputation if it was being shattered by a mountain of evidence showing deceit coming from myself or my business. Yet, nothing at all has been addressed since the TCH members and Mods attacked back at Superdeals. I guess their own interpretation is that they will do whatever they want, and screw those who don't like it.

Speaking of typos... Plunderhere.eu's privacy policy still hasn't been changed after I posted it 4 days ago. There is still the Auctionquests reference, in place of Plunderhere, in (I think) the second section.
That's how to run a business.
I would have emailed the admin, but I didn't want to register to send a "Contact Us" form. After all, there is no telling where my registration info may end up with this guy.

[mandy]

http://www.biddersnsellers.com/cgi-bin/a...w_feedback&userID=1

I detect a Disney fan.  ;D  (the logo is done in Waltograph font)

[BellisimaJ.]

Thanks for the help, but in that particular instance the "its" is possessive and therefore doesn't use an apostrophe. 
See:  "It's" vs. "Its"  

Hope that helps.

Touche.      I stand corrected.  :blinkie:

EDIT:

ps//I didn't notice  your "touche" re "few".  (see replies 87 & 88)

[amy]

[quote author=mandy link=topic=9139.msg69202#msg69202 date=1208503339]

http://www.biddersnsellers.com/cgi-bin/a...w_feedback&userID=1

I detect a Disney fan.  ;D  (the logo is done in Waltograph font)
[/quote]

The first thing I thought when I saw that logo was: Disney.  If you're trying to brand your company, creating a logo that makes people think of a different company when they see it is probably not the best marketing strategy.

Back to topic...

Plunderhere.eu's privacy policy still hasn't been changed after I posted it 4 days ago

Most alternative sites don't spend a lot of time on, or care about, their policy pages.  The contact email on biddersnsellers privacy policy has been listed as support@yoursite.com for a few years now (like PH, BnS also hides their WHOIS). Many of these sites require users to verify their identities, but there is absolutely no way for users to verify the site's identity because the sites use private WHOIS and provide little to no real contact info on their websites.

On that note, I leave you with a rather ironic post Mo left on PSU this week concerning NewEggMall's requirement that sellers provide buyers with full contact information:

I'm glad that Newegg is doing this... with the physical addresses and real phone numbers....

I've been telling people "I can't verfiy PO Boxes and Cell phones" and getting the equivilant of blank stares back... What do you mean???

This quote coming from the admin of an auction site that provides absolutely no real contact info on either their WHOIS or website. :

[sneakymagenta]

I am so glad to see so many familiar faces here. So since most of my customers are here also :blinkie: the site has under 50 members!!! :blinkie: I will list new items here first I believe.

Seller to seller sales between a very small group of sellers.  Sound familiar?

Many of these sites require users to verify their identities, but there is absolutely no way for users to verify the site's identity because the sites use private WHOIS and provide little to no real contact info on their websites.

Sneaky needs to repeat part of last night's lesson  tolensmiley:

A. Buyer trust can make or break your site.

[Sold4UNot]

Mojavelyn Resigns from PlunderHere "Email Notification"!!!!
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Please Note This Has Happened After This Post is Now Circulating the Internet Like Fire!!
http://community.tuliptools.com/index.ph...l#msg69101

Also Please Note That This Is Happening After There are New Owners??? With Private Registered Domain Owners!!

One More Note:  For All You People Who Are Truly Sad That Mojavelyn is Leaving.....DO NOT WORRY....
Mojavelyn Will Be There......Just Another BOGUS Name Along With All Her Other Scammer Buddies!!

Ok Now Here Is The Email About Mojavelyn's Supposed Resigning!!: 



The challenges of running an online auction site have been interesting, rewarding and sometimes difficult. The members of PlunderHere are among the very finest that the OAI has to offer. I am honored to consider many as friends and even some as family.

We've worked together to create one of the most promising up-and-coming auction sites on the web today. PlunderHere is ready to be taken to a new level and Mark is in the position to invest the needed resources.

It is my choice to leave as PlunderHere's admin. I'm sure that Mark will continue to take PlunderHere to new heights.

These changes have been made out of the public eye in an effort to keep PlunderHere on a steady keel. We expect that members will react the this news in the way that best suits their business needs.

I want to take this opportunity to thank each and every member as an important part of the equation that has become the amazing community called PlunderHere. For truly, no auction site can exist and thrive without each and every participant bringing goods and services and providing an exception shopping experience for customers.

I have more than enjoyed my time with you. I still have a few hairs left on my head and a heart full of memories that I will cherish. I am moving on to new endeavors and leave you knowing that you will succeed, you will thrive and we will all continue to work to create real options and choices for the members of the OAI.

It has truely been an honor to have been part of the PlunderHere.com Community.

I will be keeping in touch with several members here. If anyone would like to say hi occaisionally, I would like that as well... mojavelyn@hotmail.com

Best of Sales to all of you!

Mo

Thanks for using PlunderHere.com!






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