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This is just an observation (and in no way is it directed at any specific TT member)... but...a business plan in which emotion comes into play when making decisions probably isn't going to get you nearly as far as a business plan in which emotion is left at the door when making business related decisions

example of an emotion driven business decision:

"TT criticized Plunderhere so I'll show those miscreant trolls, I'm joining PH!  That'll really show those purple butted infiltrators"

(repeat the above hypothetical example for an unnamed person's decisions to join Milbid and AlsoShop)

Hope this helps!

[quote author=regic link=topic=9139.msg72941#msg72941 date=1224042762]

Exploit example published September 19,2008:

http://www.networksecurityarchive.org/ht...00210.html

The Secunia advisory issued on September 23, 2008.:
http://secunia.com/Advisories/31981/

To repeat, this security hole is unpatched and any site running the software and its users are at risk until the software vendor issues a patch.
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The exploit code was published 25 days ago and  PHPProBid still hasn't issued a patch?  Zen Cart's developers usually have a patch available within 1-2 days of the time a security hole is discovered.

The plunderhere.org domain name was registered on 9/11/2008 and is being used to redirect people to Alsoshop.com.  The domain name's ownership information is hidden on the WHOIS record.

This comment was spammed on a Wired blog article. The plunderhere.org link takes the user straight to AlsoShop not Plunderhere.com

Quote:feebay will do anything for a buck as proven by their rapidly dying stocks. screw them. feebay abandoned us moons ago, and now its time we all abandon them.

I use plunderhere - www.plunderhere.org - for my auction alternative and have not looked back at the feebay beast since.

I hope feebay dries up and withers away.

http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/09/e...e-sti.html

This ironic comment was left by Alsoshop on another bookmarking service:

alsoshop Wrote:Comments about this website
“The CORRECT URL is: http://www.alsoshop.com and or www.plunderhere.org When you try and steal someone elses name, it comes back and bites you in the ass.”
alsoshop on 16.09.2008 at 04:38

http://www.mister-wong.com/users/4837218/

Another spammed plunderhere.org link that takes the user straight to Alsoshop

alsoshop Wrote:alsoshop3 weeks, 2 days ago

Maybe you should try www.plunderhere.org.

http://www.propeller.com/story/2008/09/0...-alsoshop/

[quote author=bargainbloodhound link=topic=9139.msg72944#msg72944 date=1224046552]
This is just an observation (and in no way is it directed at any specific TT member)... but...a business plan in which emotion comes into play when making decisions probably isn't going to get you nearly as far as a business plan in which emotion is left at the door when making business related decisions

example of an emotion driven business decision:

"TT criticized Plunderhere so I'll show those miscreant trolls, I'm joining PH!  That'll really show those purple butted infiltrators"

(repeat the above hypothetical example for an unnamed person's decisions to join Milbid and AlsoShop)

Hope this helps!
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LOL!! I thought she was just joking?
She's not joking?
She really is going to join because of the drama?
I think she likes being in the company of others who
get criticized for doing wrong. She likes it?
Sometimes she seems ok and then other times
you want to ask her "girl what is wrong with you"?

[quote author=Nikkicute link=topic=9139.msg72953#msg72953 date=1224093557]




LOL!! I thought she was just joking?
She's not joking?
She really is going to join because of the drama?
I think she likes being in the company of others who
get criticized for doing wrong. She likes it?
Sometimes she seems ok and then other times
you want to ask her "girl what is wrong with you"?
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She did join. Last night. tolensmiley:

[quote author=let the truth be told link=topic=9139.msg72938#msg72938 date=1224035818]
looks like PSUnite decided to just lock it leaving nothing resolved as usual.

http://powersellersunite.com/viewforum.php?f=58

Let the Truth be Told
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How would it have been resolved?
It would have kept going and going and going.
Links, screenshots, the guy would not admit to anything.

I feel so silly being on that thread, but purple reading giraffe who just
came to the boards in Feb 4, 08 with total posts of 3291 and me a member
of PSU since  Jul 27 2005 with 493 lol. (not much to say), comming in the
thread talking about TT of which she said she only peeked in a couple times
with that sock puppet remark and members talking to themselves.

How would she even know given the fact that she only peeked?
You have to be in any given forum for a while to be able to spot
someone comming in under a different ID trying to chat as someone else.
How would she know? I just had to say something!!
That blabbermouth ticked me off!! lol

I am a proud member of TT and when it comes to uncovering shiesty
site owners you guys are it!! I don't know how you do it but I trust
your judgment. What's the point in lying?

Could someone fill me in on this Binaryweb guy?
I always heard of a Ray from Auction Quest, does he
own that site? Is he part owner of Alsoshop? What does he do?

Who is this Todd person he keeps saying is a criminal?
Even if Todd has a record... SO WHAT!!!What's the point?
Is not making a Cheat Mod criminal too?
How did Mo get mixed up with this person anyway?
(not that she was a nice and pleasant to be around herself).
I thought River Rat and Mo were buddy's?

What is this chopolonsky.com site about?
Just another forum or something more?
I thought chopolonsky was a hacker.
I remember it being mentioned on PSU I think?
Next thing you know thread locked, posts deleted like
mentioning the name chopolonsky was a sin. Weird!!

[quote author=BellisimaJ. link=topic=9139.msg72954#msg72954 date=1224096401]
She did join. Last night. tolensmiley:
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ohhhhhhh my goodness!!
I don't even know what to say right now.
She really did it huh?  Wow!!

So she just went from one Ray to another?
Now she's got two Ray's and a Mo !!
Like a moth to a flame!!
Good luck with that!!

I thought she was too busy to be involved in
another site right now because of all the sales?
She just loves drama!!
Now every thread pertaining to WP and Alsoshop
will be right there to defend to the end.

What is she, some kind of auction site martyr?
What's wrong with her?
Why did she do that?
Oh my goodness!!
She knows better than that!!

[quote author=Nikkicute link=topic=9139.msg72956#msg72956 date=1224103269]
How would it have been resolved?
It would have kept going and going and going.
Links, screenshots, the guy would not admit to anything.
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Bolding mine,

He did admit to the stat cheater mod but as he said that was a no brainer. See quote from PSU below:

Quote:I will just assume you're not as stupid as your post leads us to believe, but if you enjoy the company of thugs, bullies, convicted criminals, and deadbeats, more power to ya!

Yeah - Thats some great detective work, lmao. Post a link to a site I publicly advertise and acknowledge. Now, do yourself a favor, and backup your claim of proof regarding the asinine statements made by your cohorts regarding privacy violations and identity theft, amongst the other ludicrous drivel leaked out the manure mouths of those you admire.

Uh Huh.

Wheres that troll spray.

As per the rest of what he had to say  and he wants to be envyed??? Give me a break, why would I want to envy somebody who makes about 1/30th of what I do in a month? Heck even his father who owns the charter boat business appointed him the Giligan of the operation, now that is trust for ya.

Nikki,

You raise so many questions I don't know where to begin so I will allow my fellow  's to pick there jaws up off the floor in envy to take a stab at it.


Let the Truth be Told

Quote:Who is this Todd person he keeps saying is a criminal?
Even if Todd has a record... SO WHAT!!!What's the point?

Todd is BBH.  Todd doesn't have a record and has never been arrested.

Quote:Could someone fill me in on this Binaryweb guy?

What does he do?

After he gets sued for falsely labeling a certain person a criminal yesterday and loses all of his assets, including that shoebox sized 982 s.f. condo on Palmetto Ct in Oldsmar  that's valued at $110K, he's someone who'll probably be working behind the counter at McDonald's by this time next year.

Quote:I always heard of a Ray from Auction Quest, does he
own that site? Is he part owner of Alsoshop?

The Alsoshop.com WHOIS records listed S Ray as the registrant (owner) of the domain until April 18th when the ownership records were suddenly changed and Lynette "Mo" Jester was listed as the owner. 

[quote author=sneakymagenta link=topic=9139.msg69246#msg69246 date=1208616636]
[quote author=mandy link=topic=9139.msg69244#msg69244 date=1208602087]

Quote:Last little note before bedtime...
AlsoShop's WhoIs admin contact has changed since yesterday from Ray to Mo.
      Jester, Lynette
      AlsoShop LLC
      PO Box 65985
      Ridgecrest, California 93555

Domaintools keeps a history of WHOIS records so S Ray's involvement in the site can't be erased by changing the WHOIS. 
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Who needs DomainTools when you have Sneaky and Google cache?

4/18/08 WHOIS:

Quote:ALSOSHOP.COM

Registrant:
S Ray
102 Palmetto
Oldsmar, Florida 34677
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ALSOSHOP.COM
Created on: 10-Jan-08
Expires on: 11-Jan-09
Last Updated on: 10-Jan-08

Administrative Contact:
Ray, S support@sportsfanauctions.com
102 Palmetto
Oldsmar, Florida 34677
United States
(727) 781-3007

Technical Contact:
Ray, S support@sportsfanauctions.com
102 Palmetto
Oldsmar, Florida 34677
United States
(727) 781-3007

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.HOSTEDINFLORIDA.COM
NS2.HOSTEDINFLORIDA.COM


Registry Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Registry Status: clientRenewProhibited
Registry Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Status: clientUpdateProhibited

4/19 WHOIS

Quote:ALSOSHOP.COM

Registrant:
AlsoShop LLC

PO Box 65985
Ridgecrest, California 93555
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: ALSOSHOP.COM
Created on: 10-Jan-08
Expires on: 11-Jan-09
Last Updated on: 10-Jan-08

Administrative Contact:
Jester, Lynette admin@alsoshop.com
AlsoShop LLC
PO Box 65985
Ridgecrest, California 93555
United States
0000000000

Technical Contact:
Jester, Lynette admin@alsoshop.com
AlsoShop LLC
PO Box 65985
Ridgecrest, California 93555
United States
0000000000

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.HOSTEDINFLORIDA.COM
NS2.HOSTEDINFLORIDA.COM

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Quote:Todd is BBH.  Todd doesn't have a record and has never been arrested.

It's disgusting that Todd even has to defend himself against scum like Ray.

It's also pathetic that Ray listens to scum like the Arizona freak scammer, but perhaps he will learn a lesson.