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Good post, XW.  Confusedtolensmiley:

He is also putting himself at risk of having numerous lawsuits filed against him for defamation/libel. His libelous statements about certain individuals, including myself and BBH, are all easily proven to be false in a courtroom, and are not protected speech.

It is a pity that he doesn't understand the definitions of "libel" and "defamation". Telling the truth is not libel, and that is what we have done here.
Quote:If he ever decided to live up to these fake lawsuit threats, and sue anyone for defamation

I think he should sue that Amy Switzer person whoever she is. Happy001

I read the Exposing Fools site. From the description Ray gave of that Amy Switzer person's signature I think that Amy Switzer person must have copied Amy's signature! :blinkie:

Amy should sue that Amy Switzer person for copyright infringement if that Amy Switzer person copied Amy's signature and is using it on some other board.  Happy001 Happy001
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Quote:If he ever decided to live up to these fake lawsuit threats, and sue anyone for defamation

I think he should sue that Amy Switzer person whoever she is. Happy001

I read the Exposing Fools site. From the description Ray gave of that Amy Switzer person's signature I think that Amy Switzer person must have copied Amy's signature! :blinkie:

Amy should sue that Amy Switzer person for copyright infringement if that Amy Switzer person copied Amy's signature and is using it on some other board.  Happy001 Happy001
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I just might sue Amy Switzer if I find out where she lives.  ;D  I've only seen the name Amy Switzer twice in my life: once when some total idiot registered the name as a user ID on Alsoshop and the second time when it was posted on the Alsoshop affiliated Exposing Tulip Fools hate site by the shoe box condo hillbilly fisherman.  The old saying is true: ASsuming really does make some boinktards look like even bigger ASses.
I thought Amy's last name was Tulip until I met her at IRCE this year.  Big Grin
Quote:changing the WHOIS doesn't erase the readily available WHOIS history which lists him as the owner on the day he setup the page

The site was owned by an individual not an LLC on the day the page was setup and thus the assets of the person who owned the site on 10/14 aren't protected from liability by a LLC  for any events which occurred on 10/14.

Quote:Domain:      auctionnews.org   
Cache Date: 2008-10-14
Registrar:

Domain IDBig Grin136962512-LROR
Domain Name:AUCTIONNEWS.ORG
Created On:10-Jan-2007 22:18:20 UTC
Last Updated On:13-Oct-2008 03:39:56 UTC
Expiration Date:10-Jan-2009 22:18:20 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-026735948
Registrant Name:S Ray
Registrant Street1:102 Palmetto
Registrant Street2:
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Oldsmar
Registrant State/Province:Florida
Registrant Postal Code:34677
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.7277813007
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant EmailConfusedupport@sportsfanauctions.com
Admin ID:GODA-226735948
Admin Name:S Ray
Admin Street1:102 Palmetto
Admin Street2:
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Admin City:Oldsmar
Admin State/Province:Florida
Admin Postal Code:34677
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.7277813007
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Admin EmailConfusedupport@sportsfanauctions.com
Tech ID:GODA-126735948
Tech Name:S Ray
Tech Street1:102 Palmetto
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Tech City:Oldsmar
Tech State/Province:Florida
Tech Postal Code:34677
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.7277813007
Tech Phone Ext.:
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Tech EmailConfusedupport@sportsfanauctions.com
Name Server:NS1.PROBIDHOSTING.COM
Name Server:NS2.PROBIDHOSTING.COM
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Quote:Domain:     auctionnews.org 
Cache Date: 2008-10-15
Registrar:

Domain IDBig Grin136962512-LROR
Domain Name:AUCTIONNEWS.ORG
Created On:10-Jan-2007 22:18:20 UTC
Last Updated On:13-Oct-2008 03:39:56 UTC
Expiration Date:10-Jan-2009 22:18:20 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:GoDaddy.com, Inc. (R91-LROR)
Status:CLIENT DELETE PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT RENEW PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Status:CLIENT UPDATE PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:GODA-026735948
Registrant NameTongue Balkin
Registrant Organization:BWD LLC
Registrant Street1:3438 East Lake Road
Registrant Street2:Suite 14 PMB 652
Registrant Street3:
Registrant CityTonguealm Harbor
Registrant State/Province:Florida
Registrant Postal Code:34685
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.7274080757
Registrant Phone Ext.:
Registrant FAX:
Registrant FAX Ext.:
Registrant Email:domains@probidscripts.com
Admin ID:GODA-226735948
Admin NameTongue Balkin
Admin Organization:BWD LLC
Admin Street1:3438 East Lake Road
Admin Street2:Suite 14 PMB 652
Admin Street3:
Admin CityTonguealm Harbor
Admin State/Province:Florida
Admin Postal Code:34685
Admin Country:US
Admin Phone:+1.7274080757
Admin Phone Ext.:
Admin FAX:
Admin FAX Ext.:
Admin Email:domains@probidscripts.com
Tech ID:GODA-126735948
Tech NameTongue Balkin
Tech Organization:BWD LLC
Tech Street1:3438 East Lake Road
Tech Street2:Suite 14 PMB 652
Tech Street3:
Tech CityTonguealm Harbor
Tech State/Province:Florida
Tech Postal Code:34685
Tech Country:US
Tech Phone:+1.7274080757
Tech Phone Ext.:
Tech FAX:
Tech FAX Ext.:
Tech Email:domains@probidscripts.com
Name Server:NS1.PROBIDHOSTING.COM
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A listing of other sites using the same IP address as auctionnews.org

Quote:Search Results for 174.133.220.10 [reverse DNS - primary.probidhosting.com]

12 Results for 174.133.220.10

Website DMOZ Wikipedia Yahoo
1. Auctionmods.net 0 listings 0 listings 0 listings
2. Auctionmods.org 0 listings 0 listings 0 listings
3. Craigsflagger.com 0 listings 0 listings 0 listings
4. Phpprobidskins.com 0 listings 0 listings 0 listings
5. Phpscriptmods.com 0 listings 0 listings 0 listings
6. Probidhosting.com 0 listings 0 listings 0 listings
7. Probidskins.com 0 listings 0 listings 0 listings
8. Probidv6mods.com 0 listings 0 listings 0 listings
9. Probidv7mods.com 0 listings 0 listings 0 listings
10. Probidv8mods.com 0 listings 0 listings 0 listings
11. Torrentscript.com 0 listings 0 listings 0 listings
12. Auctionnews.org
For a textbook example of a violation of ICANN rules on providing correct contact information, travel back to January 2007...

Auctionquests WHOIS showed the address as "Yukon Territory, Zimbabwe" from December 2006 until late August 2007

Quote:Domain:      auctionquests.com 
Cache Date: 2007-01-01
Registrar: GO DADDY SOFTWARE, INC.

Registrant:
   S.Ray & Tyna Walker-Lay
   +1.7277813007
  , Yukon Territory 1
   Zimbabwe

Another textbook example of a violation of ICANN rules (the "registrant must be a legal entity" rule) occurred in August 2007 when the registrant was changed to Auctionquests LLC - a "company" which doesn't appear on a search of state corporate records.

Quote:Domain:     auctionquests.com  
Cache Date: 2007-08-31
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.

Registrant:
   AuctionQuests, LLC
   3438 East Lake Road
   Suite 14 OMB 652
   Palm Harbor, Florida 34685
   United States


Yet another textbook example, this one from July 2008, of a site which has improperly listed a non-legal entity as the registrant -also in violation of ICANN rules

Quote:Domain:     auctionquests.com  
Cache Date: 2008-07-24
Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.

Registrant:
   AQ
   1100 Sheldon Drive
   Newark, Delaware 19711
   United States

Incidentally, in August 2008 Auctionquests joined the ranks of rinky dinks who hide their ownership with private WHOIS.
note: a listing of other sites which hide their ownership may be found on the Channel Traffic Rankings chart -the sites listed in purple hide their ownership

The WHOIS of ANY site associated with these boinktards is a walking ICANN violation and yet they require sellers identities to be verified.

Plunderhere's WHOIS right after MoPuppet took over in 2007: violations (non-legal entity as registrant, fake phone and fax numbers)

Quote:Domain:      plunderhere.com 
Cache Date: 2007-05-31
Registrar: ENOM, INC.

Registration Service Provided By: NameCheap.com

Domain name: plunderhere.com

Registrant Contact:
   PlunderHere.Com
   Customer Service (domain@plunderhere.com)
   +1.0000000
   Fax: +1.5555555555
   RR 3
   Ridgecrest, CA 93555
   US
Alibaba boards Wrote:Most companies on these B2B websites are scam artist. They have fake addresses and phone numbers. Check to see if their phone and fax number are the same, what's up with that. If they give you a cell phone number, think about this. Do you know of any companies with 50 to 100 employee's and the only way to contact them is through the CEO's cell phone.
http://resources.alibaba.com/topic/48632...you_/6.htm

I believe the same word of caution would apply when considering doing business with any Florida "company" which lists a non-existent LLC and an ALLTEL cell phone number as the main contact number on its WHOIS records - especially when principals of the business have in the past falsely listed their business location as "Yukon Territory, Zimbabwe"  Smile
The Alltel cell is the contact number for both auctionnews.org and Stay Tuned Fishing Charters - Clearwater, Florida - Offshore Fishing  Smile
Back to Plunderhere...

Only 389 of the site's 62,500 items are indexed in Google Product Search and 562 of 62,500 in Google Base.  Well, isn't that special?  Now, who could be responsible for so few of PH's listings being indexed - could it be…SATAN?  Smile

Google Product Search Wrote:Results 1 - 20 of about 389 for plunderhere

In a move sure to boost conversions Confusedarcasm1:, PH is now requiring buyers to become ID verified before they can use buy it now.

PH Wrote:We have added a system in place whereby all unverified buyers will
not be able to immediately use the 'Buy it Now' feature unless ID verified
due to some unscrupulous users just buying out a load of items and
not paying.

http://www.plunderhere.com/content_pages.php?page=news&topic_id=62