[quote author=regic link=topic=3775.msg67730#msg67730 date=1201385719]
Quote:Links don't work for me.
The links were a comparison of December visitors:
ebay.com 79,476,935
amazon.com 61,844,788
etsy.com 1,278,278
tias.com 537,142
ioffer.com 521,571
ecrater.com 393,610
wagglepop.com 50,220
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My contributions to the list: gunbroker.com 1,065,509, rubylane.com 511,270, ubid.com 693,118
[quote author=sneakymagenta link=topic=3775.msg67732#msg67732 date=1201388610]
Quote:we have instead built a very effective specialty site
Wrong boinktardbeak! Saying WP is a specialty site doesn't make it one. You have built an ineffective run-of-the-mill general merchandise eBay wannabe clone. Nothing more, nothing less. Etsy, RubyLane, TIAS, GunBrokerÂ
, NaughtyBids :blinkie: , et al are specialty sites. WP isn't one.
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Ah, but WP is a "specialty site" -- one that specializes in overpriced auto floor mats that never sell and sellers who trade beads with one another. The fact that it is owned by a loser who couldn't even sell his carp on eBay makes it even more "special".Â
Quote:Hi Wagglepop Friends,
We need to get Wagglepop poppin again!
Who's all for having another listing challenge?
A reply: someone didn't take their popper happy pill today:
Quote:Count me out - Haven't had a hit in my store since before Christmas.
[quote author=mandy link=topic=3775.msg67771#msg67771 date=1201609090]
Quote:Hi Wagglepop Friends,
We need to get Wagglepop poppin again!
Who's all for having another listing challenge?
A reply: someone didn't take their popper happy pill today:
Quote:Count me out - Haven't had a hit in my store since before Christmas.
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Just wait 'till PS sees this one and "tattles" to the great white Ray. Any bets on how soon this post gets deleted?
The new WP marketing plan: SPAM DIGG!!!!!!
http://digg.com/business_finance/Wagglep...e_Auctions
EDIT: Ray is benefiting from eBay's recent fee/feedback announcements - store count up 50 this week to 161.
EDIT 2: listing count virtually unchanged this week despite an almost 50% rise in the store count.Â
EDIT 3: a page full of people are apparently paying $9.95 to list one item
http://www.wagglepop.com/bin/eStores?cmd=search_stores&data=CgCgCgCgDWAkBdDHEBDtEuAvCFAFAqEJAKEWBjEdEYAHEHAyAsuUDgCVEaAACKCmBvBpAmDEAoENAAuUDICCBWCmCBExEmzZEDCFAqETCxCyARAYCVDTANAmCCBoByDBCoBvCCAyCXDSAhDvBPCkAoAHExDKAbAuByBkBtDQBVEVChCSCABkAdEhBrEYCQBVBlEAEHAPCbEcEIDMDkEYBNwWDADUEnETBpBqDVDlDCAeANEIDMAvBdBU&page=7
EDIT 4: back to old tricks - eBay board spamming:
http://forums.ebay.com/search.jspa?objID=f21&q=wagglepop
[quote author=mandy link=topic=3775.msg67859#msg67859 date=1202038940]
The new WP marketing plan: SPAM DIGG!!!!!!
http://digg.com/business_finance/Wagglep...e_Auctions
EDIT: Ray is benefiting from eBay's recent fee/feedback announcements - store count up 50 this week to 161.
EDIT 2: listing count virtually unchanged this week despite an almost 50% rise in the store count.Â
EDIT 3: a page full of people are apparently paying $9.95 to list one item
http://www.wagglepop.com/bin/eStores?cmd=search_stores&data=CgCgCgCgDWAkBdDHEBDtEuAvCFAFAqEJAKEWBjEdEYAHEHAyAsuUDgCVEaAACKCmBvBpAmDEAoENAAuUDICCBWCmCBExEmzZEDCFAqETCxCyARAYCVDTANAmCCBoByDBCoBvCCAyCXDSAhDvBPCkAoAHExDKAbAuByBkBtDQBVEVChCSCABkAdEhBrEYCQBVBlEAEHAPCbEcEIDMDkEYBNwWDADUEnETBpBqDVDlDCAeANEIDMAvBdBU&page=7
EDIT 4: back to old tricks - eBay board spamming:
http://forums.ebay.com/search.jspa?objID=f21&q=wagglepop
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Add email spam:
Quote:Wagglepop has the invitation form where you can insert 5 emails to send out as an invitation to browse the site.
I've probably copied and pasted 200 addys so far, and everytime I get another one, I do the same thing.
Many of us veteran Wagglepop sellers are doing great and sitting back in a pleasantly comfortable position as we watch FeeBay implode. Many of us have very high feedback ratings on FeeBay which we can easily preserve by not listing there unless and until the insane new changes are reversed. The grass is looking mighty green on our side. Oh yes. Mighty green indeed.
Oh, and FeeBay, nice move making gallery free which it should have been all along and then jacking up the FVF to 8.75% for core listings. And us store owners are so very appreciative that you're giving us free gallery for store listings saving us a penny a month and then jacking our FVF up to 12%. My very favorite part of all though is how you're calling these changes "lowering fees". This even beats 2006 by a longshot. Nice! Real nice.
I haven't posted since the fee hike on eBay, so if this spills off topic, you'll have to excuse it. I've had a lot of time since the fee hikes on eBay to think about the state of the OAI, and have a lot to say from my 6+ years on all the big and little sites.
Just the same as the store fee-hike of 2006, these sellers will flock to alternative sites like WP, just to return back to their roots on eBay. There will be rumors of boycotts, strikes, and attempts at a "mass exodus" to other sites, but when the sales aren't there, or rather, the sales aren't anywhere, they will return. It's a shame that all alternatives can't join forces, even if they join by script users (All PHPProBid owners join together, RScript owners, PHPAuction owners, etc...) and create a small number of viable auction sites with the original site owners as the directors. There would be no such thing though, since people like Ray will always be considered "Site Owners."
This is the exact reason I left auction sites completely last year. I HATED eBay, then found WP and was doing fairly well, but got screwed there as well. Toward the middle of the year I tried a couple others, Plunderhere, Ebid, and Auctionquests, and while they are run by great people, the "used to care" attitude had set in toward auction sites. I even tried a indoor flea market for 5 months and did great with it, until a thief or two started robbing me blind daily and I had to close up.
So, the point is this... all those sellers who are jumping from eBay to WP expecting a "Revolution" will be have the exact same attitude in a few months. They will hate alternative auction sites, and hate eBay, and will have to make a choice. Gamble with the Alternatives, gamble with their own website, or even worse, gamble on eBay again where there are at least customers to be found. By far, the worst choice to be made is to forget all of the above and trust a massive marketplace like Amazon, but that choice will sadly be made by thousands of sellers.
If what I have read in the past turns out to be true, and this truly is the final straw for small sellers on eBay, it could work with the united auction site owners. I'm not talking about United Best, PEACE, SS2BM, or any of the small groups of site partnerships. I am talking about the same programming, same database structures, all integrated into the same site to create millions of listings.
I hate to say it, I said it often on eBay's boards in 2006, sellers are the reason for eBay's stranglehold on their businesses. Just as with Walmart, the customers are the reason that Walmart is the only company in America that has never paid a dime for using child sweatshop labor. If those customers would have spent a couple more bucks and shopped at K-Mart in the 90's, Wal-Mart wouldn't be anywhere near as untouchable as they have become.
The same goes for eBay. If eBay crashed tomorrow, over 300,000 Americans would be left with zero income (both business owners AND their employees) and unemployment would increase 1/2% overnight. eBay's crash would devastate the economy and make the recession predictions a reality within a week. All over America, mortgages would foreclose within a few months, offices and warehouses would be vacant and the owners in court trying to get money from the bankrupt businesses, and eBay executives would be living it up with their fat exit bonuses. And why would this happen? Because sellers there keep paying the machine and never look to multichannel onto their own sites.
Now that my rant on eBay is done, one last thing about Wagglepop. In all, I wish those sellers the best of luck on WP. But in reality, I know they will be screwed like the 4,000+ sellers who have left the site. I just hope they can pick up the pieces and find somewhere to continue their businesses successfully.
Reality check of the month:
No one makes anyone become anything but themselves. Make yourself become something yourself. Stop the insane cycle, and make it happen.
There are those who make it happen, those who watch it happen, those who join after it happened, and those who wonder what happened. It took wasting nearly 2 years for me to learn this, how long will it take you?
[quote author=xwpopper link=topic=3775.msg67865#msg67865 date=1202063787]
It's a shame that all alternatives can't join forces, even if they join by script users (All PHPProBid owners join together, RScript owners, PHPAuction owners, etc...) and create a small number of viable auction sites with the original site owners as the directors. [/quote]
Dude. Viable alternative auction sites already exist and now have established roots. Wagglepop is the best of them. Alternatives joining forces would accomplish nothing whatsoever. The sellers are in complete control of their own destiny and more of them should have done the right thing when we got the wake-up call in 2006. It was proven way back then beyond the shadow of a doubt that eBay can not be trusted to do what's right for sellers. Greater than half of the sellers back then who landed on Wagglepop were gone in less than 30 days. Greater than 85% were gone in less than 90 days. Most of those were exactly what we're seeing now with so many of the one-listing Wagglepop stores. (Of course not all of the current stores are going to stay at one listing. They are mostly brand new members.) No online business can possibly reach it's potential in less than 30 or 90 days. The overall behavior of the community of online sellers is directly 100% responsible for what FeeBay is doing now.
[quote author=xwpopper link=topic=3775.msg67865#msg67865 date=1202063787]
Reality check of the month:
No one makes anyone become anything but themselves. Make yourself become something yourself. Stop the insane cycle, and make it happen.
There are those who make it happen, those who watch it happen, those who join after it happened, and those who wonder what happened. It took wasting nearly 2 years for me to learn this, how long will it take you?
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I learned this lesson a long time ago. I don't waste time. I learn, observe, adapt, adjust, and always achieve success.