Toy,
Quote:I have about as many sales as I did when I owned an e-bay store.
Few former eBay sellers now on WP can make that claim. And for those who DO have sales, few can say they are actually making money, as they have to sell far below their eBay prices for the same item. Â If it costs $1000 to sell an item for $2000, you end up with $1000 in your pocket. If it costs $10 to sell the same item for $20, you've doubled your money either way, but only have $10 gain on the second scenario. BTW, what do you think's going to happy after the "toy season" is over?
Quote:When I have a problem, they are answered quickly by customer service. Â
Try asking CC how to close a store, why your post was pulled, why you received an invoice and harassing collection threats when you owe nothing, why CC contacts your clients without yours or their knowledge or consent -- and see how responsive CC is.
Quote:I still sell on e-bay to make enough money on items that do not have a strong customer base yet on WP.
As do most WP sellers, BECAUSE THERE IS NO CUSTOMER BASE.
Quote:It is true that feedback is not left very often. Â I for one am not going to "bug" buyers for it; I think that is very tacky.
We all think it's tacky, too. Why do you suppose few buyers leave you feedback? This makes no sense whatsoever.
Quote:Trust me, if I was not making money, I would not be there. Â
What do you call "making money?" Covering your fees? "Making money" is not the same as "making a living." If it costs a penny to get back two pennies, you're doubling your investment, but still only have one cent to live on. Why not just keep your initial penny and sell on a free site? Then you've tripled your money?
Quote:As far as the censorship on the boards, I feel they or "ray" whatever you choose to believe is just trying to keep a positive atmosphere on the boards so we donÂ’t have all the nonsense that goes on, on other sites. Â
Ray is the owner. This is not something we "choose" to believe. It is a fact. He censors -- always has, always will.
And, what do you think forums are for? If you need prayers, go to church. If you wants friends, join a bridge club. If you want to chit-chat and have cyber-breakfasts, there's lots of sites that offer that FOR FREE. And I guess you have no problem with a guy who pulls posts and cancels accounts for little or no reason (e.g. just for asking why someone else's post was pulled, for example), yet gets on the eBay boards calling eBay staff B*ST*ARDS, M*TH*R*UCK*RS, LAZY BUMS and more and calls the site "screwUbay". It's OK, then, to NOT practice what you preach?
Quote:ItÂ’s his site and if I want to do business there I need to go with it or move.
As Ray himself said, "it's my business and I can do what I want, and if you don't like it you can hit the bricks." And because it's his business and he can do whatever he wants, it's OK for him to tell users to put their credit ratings in jeopardy and risk account cancellation from PayPal by opening new accounts (against PayPal rules) solely for the purpose of paying an outstanding invoice to WP. It's also OK to engage in business interference and invasion of privacy by censoring personal messages and contacting sellers' clients without permission.
Quote:I just do not understand why people waste so much time and energy bashing WP
We're trying to educate and help others avoid making the same mistakes we made. We want people to think!
Quote:If you think you can do it better then Ray, then by all means go ahead and try it, actions speak louder than words.
You gotta be kidding. We could never do better than Ray. None of us are crooks and narcisistic egomaniacs who take delight in figuring ways to get fools to part with their money.
Quote:I for one commend him for having the guts to come back and give it another go. Â
After he unqequivically stated he would NEVER, EVER open another auction site. He'd learned his lesson and that was that. He'd completely destroyed the data base (including email addresses and credit cards numbers) for WP1. Yet just months later he was (surprise) opening another auction site -- same name -- and sending spam invitations to most of the former members. He further claims to have cut all ties with eBay, yet still has an eBay store. Does that not make Ray a liar?
Quote:People are human and make mistakes and learn by them, hopefully.
Exactly, which is why the X-Poppers here will NEVER deal with Ray and WP ever again and want to warn others of it.
Quote:I support anyone who had the guts to even try to be in the same ring as e-bay. Â
Same ring? WP's not even in the same universe. This site has more verifiable activity than WP and we have nothing to sell.
Quote:I think it benefits us all if someday someone will can give e-bay a run for their money. Â Will it be WP?
Not a snowball's chance in hell. If anything gives eBay a run it will be sellers starting their own web sites, Google and established B&M retailers setting up e-commerce venues.
Quote:as long as I am making money and my customer service needs are met I am a happy seller. Â
Good for you. I hope your customer needs are few and your financial needs minimal to none.
Edited because I messed up the [] signs.